Terra Gold LR 200 (video)

[xmen]

Terra Gold LR 200 is an long range detector for electronic dowsing with 6 frequency presets to search gold, silver, brass or cooper and cavity. You can choose one frequency preset at a time.

We can check the distance and depth of research by the sensitivity key, which depends on the quantity of the target and the ability of the operator and it can reach up to 2.500 meters and 6 meters depth. The various options are made from tactile keys, lighting the corresponding red led indicator.

The Terra Gold LR 200 is easy to use. Each time we press a tactile key the red led indicator lights and also the led of the choice we made.

There is the possibility of checking the battery voltage from the corresponding tactile key with indicators leds.

LR 200 is assembled in 10 seconds and consists of three parts, the main unit, the two removable BNC antennas for transmit / receive and the removable handle.

Video with English subtitles



http://www.terra-gold.com

http://www.terragold.gr

[Dell Winders]

IN MY EXPERIENCED OPINION; (Critique by Dell)

DOWSING, is the optimum word here as it is well demonstrated in the video by the physical body movements of the operator controlling the reactions and pointing directions of the LR-200.

By definition, DOWSING, is a Mental exercise that is only enhanced by electronics through the power of suggestion and added price to suggest value.

Electronics, provide no practical value to a persons inherent DOWSING abilities.

In my opinion, electronic LRL's mounted on a Swivel handle are a step backward, Not a step forward. Dell

[xmen]

Dell your opinion based on your dowsing experience? How many years are you training in physical (without electronics) or electronic dowsing?

Everyone can use rods, to make dowsing. The abilities obtained by the time and only need little patience. The physical dowser spend his bioenergy every time who can dowsing.
In electronic dowsing don't need that. It work with another sophisticated way.

[Dell Winders]

I have more than 30 years experience in the field use of both Dowsing & LRL of all description and a co-creator of MFD & HID locating.

The body motion of the operator in the video clearly shows he is manually influencing the direction the LR-200 points to. In my view He is mentally and physically overriding any influence the electronics might have rendering them useless. This is an inherent problem in using a swivel handle LRL that requires a stable balancing act to operate and why I don't recommend it. Dell

[WM6]

Hi xmen, is this great rotating LRL atestet for use along with pacemaker?

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

By definition, DOWSING, is a Mental exercise that is only enhanced by electronics through the power of suggestion and added price to suggest value.

Good grief!
Dell - your description of this device is almost skeptical.
This is clearly the usual "Here's one I buried earlier" trick.

Tidy up the bit about dowsing being a mental exercise, and you're just about there.
May I suggest changing the words "mental exercise" to "psychological phenomenon". You can use this for reference -> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...bomb-detectors

[xmen]

Dell You are a few thousand miles away and watching the video you think understand everything.
Simply expressing your opinion without knowing the detector. Your opinion does not mean it is correct. Everyone has an opinion and in Greece we say "out of the dance, many songs they said".


WM6 No tests were made for use with pacemaker. Best not used.



Qiaozhi I suppose you are the admin here, but you have transcended the boundaries of the discussion. I expected from a forum administrator, neutral stance.

Were you present at the time was made the video? Did you saw with your own eyes?
I suppose, you are not dowser or you have not use L-rods. You are sceptic.

You try explain it, that you do not understand, with a very offensive way.
All of us who knows that it works, we are happy.

I am impressed by your misplaced and offensive review, for something you never use.

In Greece we have a saying: "Anyone who laughs last, laughs best".

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by xmen

Qiaozhi I suppose you are the admin here, but you have transcended the boundaries of the discussion. I expected from a forum administrator, neutral stance.

Were you present at the time was made the video? Did you saw with your own eyes?
I suppose, you are not dowser or you have not use L-rods. You are sceptic.

You try explain it, that you do not understand, with a very offensive way.
All of us who knows that it works, we are happy.

I am impressed by your misplaced and offensive review, for something you never use.

In Greece we have a saying: "Anyone who laughs last, laughs best".

What makes you think you'll be the last one left laughing?

And you're correct ... my stance is not neutral, and it doesn't have to be. Dowsing is a "trick of the mind", and (I find myself agreeing with Dell on this matter) there is no benefit to be had by adding electronic gadgetry to a dowsing rod, except in the wallet department.

Try using this testing technique -> A Double-Blind Test for LRLs
and you'll discover the results to be somewhat different to what you expect.
Here's some additional reading material to keep you busy -> Info

[goldfinder]

Dell is has been selling LRLs AKA electronic dowsing machines for a small fortune and now he is downing them. That sure sounds like a flip of the old flim-flam guy.

Looks to me loke Dell doesn't like competition.
Goldfinder

[Mike(Mont)]

Dell is so far above that you guys can't see it. He was trying to help the guy. But you wouldn't know.

[Dell Winders]

"ELECTRONIC DOWSING" is a relatively new illegitimate term, invented and used by those in ignorance of the subject.

Electronic components are specific in their purpose and as yet have not been successfully incorporated into Dowsing, which acknowledged to be a mental exercise utilizing a body's IDEOMOTOR Response.

Dowsing might be considered as a type of Long Range Locating (LRL) but it does NOT require, or incorporate Electronic components. Dowsing, by definition, falls within the category of Meta-Physics (intuition, psychic ability)

Are the Electronics of the LR-200, and other Electronic LRL's mounted on a swivel handle intended to tap into and, utilize, or enhance the operator's Psychic ability so it becomes a DOWSING instrument? I don't think so.

If the products are detecting electronically, then why are the manufacturers confusing the viewers, and the easily confused Skeptics by referring to them as Dowsing?

So, I ask the question, Is the LR-200 being sold as a Dowsing Instrument (meta-physics) or an Electronic LRL built on the basis of Physics? Which? Dell

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by xmen

Dell You are a few thousand miles away and watching the video you think understand everything.

Watching the video is more than enough to understand everything there is to understand about your LRL. It's clearly a duck.

[Dave J.]

It's a great video. Anyone who wants to know how LRL's "work", there it is in plain view.

If that was me in the video, everything else the same, it would pass muster as high comedy debunking! "Skeptics" don't have to make this stuff up, the fraudsters themselves provide the material!

--Dave J.

[Geo]

I know Xmen.
He is not a frauster, he is a serious and honest man.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

"
Are the Electronics of the LR-200, and other Electronic LRL's mounted on a swivel handle intended to tap into and, utilize, or enhance the operator's Psychic ability so it becomes a DOWSING instrument? I don't think so.

Dell

LRL-200 don't try to enhance the operator's Psychic ability, it has inside a signal generator. The only difference with your systems is that your systems transmitting via the ground and the LR200 transmitting via the air. All the other philosofy is the same.

[michael]

Originally Posted by xmen

Terra Gold LR 200 is an long range detector for electronic dowsing with 6 frequency presets to search gold, silver, brass or cooper and cavity. You can choose one frequency preset at a time.

We can check the distance and depth of research by the sensitivity key, which depends on the quantity of the target and the ability of the operator and it can reach up to 2.500 meters and 6 meters depth. The various options are made from tactile keys, lighting the corresponding red led indicator.

The Terra Gold LR 200 is easy to use. Each time we press a tactile key the red led indicator lights and also the led of the choice we made.

There is the possibility of checking the battery voltage from the corresponding tactile key with indicators leds.

LR 200 is assembled in 10 seconds and consists of three parts, the main unit, the two removable BNC antennas for transmit / receive and the removable handle.

Video with English subtitles



http://www.terra-gold.com

http://www.terragold.gr

Again an ordinary swiveling gadget. no new thing. What a funny-ridiculous movie, demonstrates nothing, only show of Ideomotor effect nothing else. Even if it uses the best oscillator cannot do especial work. You imagine; even in a mild windy condition it’s a real trash.

[Dell Winders]

Originally Posted by Geo

LRL-200 don't try to enhance the operator's Psychic ability, it has inside a signal generator. The only difference with your systems is that your systems transmitting via the ground and the LR200 transmitting via the air. All the other philosofy is the same.

NOT TRUE! I introduced the use of the AIR MODE for Frequency Generators in 1987 but NOT a FG mounted on a Swivel Handle. It's been included in my Instruction manual ever since. Any LRL can be used in an AIR MODE, or a GROUND MODE. The AIR MODE is preferable for distance and the initial survey of a potential site.. The GROUND MODE has more physics limitations but can provide additional information about a target at close range.

Understanding the limitations of your LRL in the field, and using it accordingly is key to success. Dell

[Dell Winders]

Michael, I agree with you. With respect for your years of LRL testing and field experience you are very knowledgeable.

In light of of all the years of field testing and proving that FG's mounted on Swivel handles are NOT a practical LRL application, I don't understand why manufacturers repeat the same error over and over again and try to push it on a trusting consumer.

I applaud the efforts of inventors with new innovations but the repeat introduction of copy cat versions of a proven impractical LRL application becomes boring. Hopefully, the manufacturer of the LR-200 can do better than this. Dell

[Dave J.]

L-rods are gravity detectors. If they were responding to something emanating from the target, the people who design them would provide a counterbalance so you're not having to fight ideomotor response every step of the way. An ordinary example of a swivelling apparatus that does detect something at a long distance other than gravity, and is therefore counterbalanced, is the magnetic compass.

As it is, of all the swivelling LRL's (and dowsing rods) out there, the number which are counterbalanced to eliminate gravitational pull is .........ZERO!

The number which are aerodynamically balanced to eliminate the effect of wind....... ZERO.

The number the electronics of which have something to do with detecting buried objects other than sondes used for fraudulent demos....... ZERO.

This newfangled swiveller is just another LRL swiveller, copying ideas off the Internet from other LRL's, it's not like he came up with something new out of the clear blue sky! Since he is obviously familiar with LRL's, that means he's read the forums and knows the things are frauds.

He knows for a fact that his gadget will not detect an otherwise unknown object, that's why he's not going to offer a credible demo of his gadget doing that.

Geo, the guy knows exactly the same thing that the "skeptics" do, the only difference is that he's decided to go into the business knowing what it really is, whereas the "skeptics" have enough ethics to not get into that business even though they have all the knowledge needed to get into the business. After all, we've had plenty of good teachers how it's done: Mineoro, Chuckie, Thomas, Yocum, and (yep) even Dell.

So, how's the guy not a fraudster? Greece is in a desperate economic situation, and when people get desperate they do things to make a buck that otherwise they probably wouldn't do. If I lived in Greece and was getting desperate, maybe that'd be me you see in that video. Maybe I'd do exactly as that guy did. And it would be fraud. Therefore it's fraud when he does it.

That having been said...... If anyone having been informed what the thing is still wants to buy it with their own money (not someone else's), they have my blessing! "Darwin's Law".

If they prefer the Dell apparatus with the separate "transmitter", well, anyone reading this forum knows where to buy that. Hey, Dell's gotta eat, too.

--Dave J.

[Dell Winders]

WOW! All this from a guy who pretends he is a cute little dog that chews on curtains. Another example of WEIS!

Dave J, as usual you are barking up the wrong tree. As a fraudster your self, you demonstrate your hypocrisy. Your BELIEF that the common L-Rod, whether used in a Mental Dowsing application, or a physics application LRL) has to be balanced is ludicrous, and shows your total ignorance of the subject.

In my own instructions there are numerous pages stressing the point that the tips of the L-Rods have to be pointed at least 15 degrees off level, toward the ground. Many of my customers have to point the tips of the Rods pointing at their toes to obtain an interpretable reaction of the L-Rods with out the twisting of the hands, wrists, or arms to make the Rods move.

Now,my friend, you, or any skeptic, point the tips of the Swivel handle L-Rod in front of your toes and see how far, and visually obvious you have to twist your wrists to get the Rods to work against the force of gravity and cross. Yet, with the Swivel Rods LRL application there is only a normal minute movement of the hands and wrist and the Rods cross on their own, against gravity. Take a video and show us how you can do this without any visible Ideomotor response?

If the LR-200 Discriminated, and detected the direction of the discriminated target without having to be balanced displaying the obvious Ideomotor controlled Dowsing response, with the antenna pointed down at least 15, or more degrees, working against gravity, then they have a properly working LRL with it's own inherent physics limitations which should be understood and worked accordingly by the operator.

Dave, go put on the pointed cap and sit in the corner. Dell

[Dave J.]

here's another video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gzEy24z9Ts

The guy sure knows how to demo an LRL!

--Dave J.

[Dave J.]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Dave J, as usual you are barking up the wrong tree. As a fraudster your self, you demonstrate your hypocrisy. Your BELIEF that the common L-Rod, whether used in a Mental Dowsing application, or a physics application LRL) has to be balanced is ludicrous, and shows your total ignorance of the subject. Dell

Dell, show a little reading comprehension, please! I have been completely clear that the common L-Rod MUST NOT be balanced, because if it's balanced, that'll stop it from working! This is a matter on which "skeptics" and manufacturers alike (yourself included) have always agreed, I don't recall anyone ever disputing it.

Meanwhile if anyone reading this thread suspects that standalone LRL's are worthless and believes that a separate transmitter is needed to get effective operation, by all means buy one (with your own money)-- from good ol' Dell, made in the USA!

(Sorry admins, I hope that's not too much marketing.)

--Dave J.

[Dave J.]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

IN MY EXPERIENCED OPINION; (Critique by Dell)

DOWSING, is the optimum word here as it is well demonstrated in the video by the physical body movements of the operator controlling the reactions and pointing directions of the LR-200.

By definition, DOWSING, is a Mental exercise that is only enhanced by electronics through the power of suggestion and added price to suggest value.

Electronics, provide no practical value to a persons inherent DOWSING abilities.

In my opinion, electronic LRL's mounted on a Swivel handle are a step backward, Not a step forward. Dell

I especially love the part where Dell says "demonstrated in the video by the physical body movements of the operator controlling the reactions and pointing directions". Skeptics and LRL manufacturers of the world, unite! We have nothing to lose but our disagreements on what gainful employment consists of!

--Dave J.

[Dell Winders]

No Dave, you are Wrong Again! Being balanced won't stop the L-rods from reacting but they do require a human connection and a sufficient "Strength of Field".

Several early experiments have shown that when the Swivel Rods are balanced in a wooden vice and a 10 foot lamp cord was attached to the Rods, and the ends of the wires held by one person, another person could hold their hand(s) up to 5 inches away from the tips of the rods and cause them to move right, left, or spin in a circle by the influence of the hand(s)

I have held Gold or silver in my hand, but the movements were the same with, or without a sample being held. From what I know now, I think it is entirely possible that discrimination could be added to these experiments.

Put on the pointed hat and sit in the corner. I read many years ago that Scientist had determined that wearing the tall pointed had actually improved mental faculties. Dell

[Dave J.]

Of course, Dell. It's called "sleight of hand". Either that, or reporting a third hand fiction that never even happened.

You just explained why a balanced L-rod doesn't work-- insufficient field strength. You need that gravitational field to be able to point the sucker, and if you cancel the influence of that field on the rod by counterbalancing it, ya ain't got squat unless you magnetize the rod, in which case you have a magnetic compass that actually does respond to a field.

Everyone knows why there are ZERO counterbalanced L-rods on the market-- it's because everyone knows the damn things won't work! Anybody who thought maybe it would work and gave it a try found out the hard way that it doesn't work, and you have given a description (whether an actual or merely fictional event) of such a learning experience. Despite decades of creativity on the part of experimenters, there are ZERO counterbalanced L-rods on the market. It's because they don't work.

Remember, your salespitch in this thread is that a standalone swiveller LRL is step backwards, and I agree with you. Your salespitch is your separate "transmitter", which is supposed to work ........ with........ NON-counterbalanced L-rods, no surprise there after all!

Dell, it's not smart of you to be defending a counterbalanced L-rod that you neither sell, nor (wisely) have any intention of selling. Think business, man! Pitch the separate transmitter!

--Dave J.