Large Gold Hoard Found

[Theseus]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ard/index.html

Interesting article. Large gold hoard found; not with LRL, but with a cheap old MD bought probably at a garage sale.

Wonder how all that gold escaped undetected all these years with so many LRLs in existence?

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Wonder how all that gold escaped undetected all these years with so many LRLs in existence?

You know, unproper air humidity, too much tractor vibration, disturbing cow voices, too much gold in the same place, etc. and LRL go out of work.

[Dell Winders]

The answer is obvious. I don't have any LRL customers in England. Dell

[Mike(Mont)]

It's true there are a large number of dowsers in Great Britian. Just knowing how to dowse or use an LRL is not going to get you access to private property.

The guy said he had some feeling about it beforehand. I know the skeptic response to that--"They always say that". He found it, that's what counts,and he obviously didn't have a negative attitude.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

It's true there are a large number of dowsers in Great Britian. Just knowing how to dowse or use an LRL is not going to get you access to private property.

The guy said he had some feeling about it beforehand. I know the skeptic response to that--"They always say that". He found it, that's what counts,and he obviously didn't have a negative attitude.

Yup, sounds right to me....
It's kinda like the guy who wins the lottery. He says he had a good feeling about it beforehand when he bought his ticket.
Hmmmm.... didn't all the of the lottery losers have a good feeling about it too? I guess they did, cause millions of losers bought tickets too.

...I guess we just haven't heard yet from all the dowsers who had some feeling about it beforehand when they dug an empty hole.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

Is there an echo in here?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Is there an echo in here?

No, it is a trick of the mind

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Fred

No, it is a trick of the mind

Damn ... you beat me to it!

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

The answer is obvious. I don't have any LRL customers in England. Dell

Yeah, right. And if you did....? Would that somehow have changed what happened.

(No UK sales.... I guess dowsers in the UK are a little smarter than here in the US.)

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

It's true there are a large number of dowsers in Great Britian. Just knowing how to dowse or use an LRL is not going to get you access to private property.

The guy said he had some feeling about it beforehand. I know the skeptic response to that--"They always say that". He found it, that's what counts,and he obviously didn't have a negative attitude.

Mike, do you really think this guy's MD cares what attitude he harbors, or that the machine would work differently depending on the operator's attitude? (rhetorical)

I'm pretty sure attitude only has influence on your bent wires, because they react only to mind and an ideomotor response. Sorry to break the news to you but signal lines have nothing to do with how a bent wire reacts. Signal lines, as described by the believers, are a trick of the mind. Nothing more.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Mike, do you really think this guy's MD cares what attitude he harbors, or that the machine would work differently depending on the operator's attitude? (rhetorical)

I'm pretty sure attitude only has influence on your bent wires, because they react only to mind and an ideomotor response. Sorry to break the news to you but signal lines have nothing to do with how a bent wire reacts. Signal lines, as described by the believers, are a trick of the mind. Nothing more.

Yup.... I spose that metal detectorist could have had a bad attitude....
"...dang cheapo metal detector doesn't find anything good. I should throw this thing in the trash. If I don't find something soon, I think I will smash it to pieces...... beep, beep, beep...... "I'm rich..!!!

Yup. that metal detector will beep at the metal no matter what yer thinking.
(or maybe not... Maybe the detector found gold only after hearing it would be smashed to pieces)?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

"The demarcation of what is physical and what is not, is simply a line drawn by man and based on the awareness of the majority." a quote from Victor Beasley in the book "Supersensonics" by Christopher Hills.

Most people don't have a clue how thought energy can set up a wave-field around an object.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

"The demarcation of what is physical and what is not, is simply a line drawn by man and based on the awareness of the majority." a quote from Victor Beasley in the book "Supersensonics" by Christopher Hills.

Most people don't have a clue how thought energy can set up a wave-field around an object.

Don't tell me, let me guess; you and Christoper Hills are among the elite few who have a clue about awareness and its association with what is physical and what is not.

Please spare us.

Christopher Hills was a prolific writer, publisher and salesman of a great many books all dealing with a variety of esoteric topics; not the least of which are inner awareness, visual awareness, The Science of Radiational Paraphysics, The Rise of the Phoenix Universal Government by Natures Laws, Nuclear Evolution Discovery of the Rainbow Body, Secrets of the Life Force, etc., etc. I could go on, but I think you get the idea of where this is going.

In 1972, Dr. Hills founded the University of the Trees, as a progressive community whose courses focused on the study of consciousness and practiced the dynamics of interpersonal relationship.

In short, Dr.(?) Hills was a crackpot writer/publisher/salesman of teachings and unverified doctrines; appealing to those holding beliefs of a similar ilk. (If the shoe fits, wear it.) Although today he is "hawking" his stuff in another dimension... his wife and son continue the proliferation from their modest California Estate, where they live quite comfortably whilst enjoying the fruits of the book sales, and other miscellaneous "awareness" contraptions, mind wave guides and other pseudo-scientific trinkets and paraphernalia.

Isn't capitalism a wonderful tool when coupled with, and protected by free speech?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Don't tell me, let me guess; you and Christoper Hills are among the elite few who have a clue about awareness and its association with what is physical and what is not.

...In 1972, Dr. Hills founded the University of the Trees, as a progressive community whose courses focused on the study of consciousness and practiced the dynamics of interpersonal relationship.

... his wife and son continue the proliferation from their modest California Estate, where they live quite comfortably whilst enjoying the fruits of the book sales, and other miscellaneous "awareness" contraptions, mind wave guides and other pseudo-scientific trinkets and paraphernalia.

Isn't capitalism a wonderful tool when coupled with, and protected by free speech?

Ummm... does this mean a metal detector can find awareness upon hearing it will soon be smashed into pieces if it doesn't find gold soon?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Ummm... does this mean a metal detector can find awareness upon hearing it will soon be smashed into pieces if it doesn't find gold soon?

Best wishes,
J_P

Well.... I guess that would be something maybe Mike or the Good Doctor would have to tell you. However, I don't think you will understand the answer because like me; you are "one of those people who don't have a clue how thought energy can set up a wave-field around an object".

[Mike(Mont)]

Seems I detect a bit of envy. Hills retired at age thirty and spent the rest of his life helping others. At one point he was president of the World Yoga Association. Out of all the reading I have done on dowsing, I would say without question he was the most knowledgable person in the field to date. You wouldn't like to hear what he says about your conceit and phony logic. Really makes my day to read it. I don't know much about his widow, but I spoke with her a while back and she does not sell any dowsing tools, just books, tapes, and videos.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Seems I detect a bit of envy. Hills retired at age thirty and spent the rest of his life helping others. At one point he was president of the World Yoga Association. Out of all the reading I have done on dowsing, I would say without question he was the most knowledgable person in the field to date. You wouldn't like to hear what he says about your conceit and phony logic. Really makes my day to read it. I don't know much about his widow, but I spoke with her a while back and she does not sell any dowsing tools, just books, tapes, and videos.

Hi Mike(Mont),

I, for one, don't have envy for Hills or other proponents of dowsing. I have read many of the theories and teachings of dowsing. I think this is great stuff for people who want to know what they teach. People are well off to pursue dowsing if it interests them. And if they find happiness from learning teachings of dowsing, then I think it is good for them to get as much of this happiness as they can find.

I suppose the reason we see so many disagreeing opinions here is because this is a technical site dominated by engineers and others who have years of training to teach them about how science works. It seems reasonable to me that you will find fewer people here who find their happiness from studying dowsing teachings. I suspect the majority of people who post at Geotech will think that dowsing is kind of a funny superstition that is only good for making jokes about.

If only I could see a few double blind tests that show dowsing actually works, maybe I would change my mind and join the people who find happiness from learning more of the teachings of dowsing . But for now, it seems like a funny superstition to me.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

If only I could see a few double blind tests that show dowsing actually works, maybe I would change my mind and join the people who find happiness from learning more of the teachings of dowsing . But for now, it seems like a funny superstition to me.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.

Come to Greece if you want to see how dowsing works. Of course as many you want of double blind tests!!!! But i wrote and other times. Your problem with double blind tests, is if from long distance a dowsing operator will find the objects 10/10 times and not 7/10???? For me is the same, it is a device that locate objects from long distance. With or without errors. I believe that it count some persons to study it...

Regards

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi J_P.

Come to Greece if you want to see how dowsing works. Of course as many you want of double blind tests!!!! But i wrote and other times. Your problem with double blind tests, is if from long distance a dowsing operator will find the objects 10/10 times and not 7/10???? For me is the same, it is a device that locate objects from long distance. With or without errors. I believe that it count some persons to study it...

Regards

Hi Geo,
I will be happy to conduct double blind tests of dowsing. I will also make videos to put on a professional website with links in all the major treasure hunting forums including Geotech. But the problem, I cannot come to Greece now. If you are ready to come to California, then we can start right now. I will believe 10/10 as soon as the double blind test confirms it. And you will be king of dowsing for the first person to pass double blind testing. If you can come, PM me, and we will get started right away!

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

"The demarcation of what is physical and what is not, is simply a line drawn by man and based on the awareness of the majority." a quote from Victor Beasley in the book "Supersensonics" by Christopher Hills.

Most people don't have a clue how thought energy can set up a wave-field around an object.

Read it and weep ...

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/index.php?s=bowser

... or (for us skeptics) have a good laugh.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Geo,
I will be happy to conduct double blind tests of dowsing. I will also make videos to put on a professional website with links in all the major treasure hunting forums including Geotech. But the problem, I cannot come to Greece now. If you are ready to come to California, then we can start right now. I will believe 10/10 as soon as the double blind test confirms it. And you will be king of dowsing for the first person to pass double blind testing. If you can come, PM me, and we will get started right away!

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi H_P.

Hahaha California is to far.
Tommorrow i will go to London.


Regards

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi H_P.

Hahaha California is to far.
Tommorrow i will go to London.


Regards

Will you perform a double blind test in London ?

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Seems I detect a bit of envy. Hills retired at age thirty and spent the rest of his life helping others. At one point he was president of the World Yoga Association. Out of all the reading I have done on dowsing, I would say without question he was the most knowledgable person in the field to date. You wouldn't like to hear what he says about your conceit and phony logic. Really makes my day to read it. I don't know much about his widow, but I spoke with her a while back and she does not sell any dowsing tools, just books, tapes, and videos.

Envy a charlatan; I think not.

Hills, and his "university" of the trees, falls in the category of those individuals who found (and capitalized on) a small niche industry catering to a rather obscure thirst for the weird and esoteric, from the gullible and technically-challenged. To that end, he must be recognized only as a successful but crafty capitalist; nothing more. Much like a few others I could mention. If there is any envy sensed here, it would have to come from those here who wanted to break into the same type business as Hills, but so far has failed miserably.

BTW, Mike; since you seem to be in the elite group of individuals who have a clue - please share with the rest of us how thought energy can set up a wave-field around an object. Waiting patiently for that kind of information.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Fred

Will you perform a double blind test in London ?

Hi Fred.
With who??


Regards

[Dell Winders]

BTW, Mike; since you seem to be in the elite group of individuals who have a clue - please share with the rest of us how thought energy can set up a wave-field around an object. Waiting patiently for that kind of information.

Not much point with no common interest. Folks here seem to be into electronics. Rational Thought, is rarely used, or entertained here. Dell