Free energy - battery charger

[Esteban]

The neon lamp and the divider voltage limits the voltage in the union of both resistors in order to 15 V.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Esteban

The neon lamp and the divider voltage limits the voltage in the union of both resistors in order to 15 V.

Hi,
what's that stuff ???

Seems a project for depressed people... the kind who wanna die!

Don't you know that placing such stuff could incinerate an elephant if things go worse ???

I hope people here will not realize they can try such stuff REALLY to charge some battery!

It's like killing a fly with a TSAR-bomba!

You're a natural born killer Esteban!

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Esteban

The neon lamp and the divider voltage limits the voltage in the union of both resistors in order to 15 V.

I think even Benjamin Franklin would have thought twice about building that.

[peroon]

Esteban....say; aren't you, by some strange accident, Nikola Tesla's distant relative? Or even better - his direct reincarnation?
Only HE was crazy enough to agitate in clouds and ionosphere !

[Esteban]

If somebody understand Spanish, translated for original Elektor issue, is for indoor uses with short antenna. The drawing only is ilustrative of how can obtaining some ammount of energy. The principle also is used in satellite for solar cells, etc., regarding the publication. Only I share it.

Regards

Esteban

[Max]

Originally Posted by Esteban

If somebody understand Spanish, translated for original Elektor issue, is for indoor uses with short antenna. The drawing only is ilustrative of how can obtaining some ammount of energy. The principle also is used in satellite for solar cells, etc., regarding the publication. Only I share it.

Regards

Esteban

?
en el interior I see that... but...

OK... the electric field gradient is normally 100V/m... so if you have e.g. a 3 floors in your house you have about 10meters to play with... then around 1000V from tip of antenna at your higher floor to zero at ground wire.

Nice... but... the current ?
Have you tested it really in practice ?

I dubt the neon lamp will start glow (the breakdown is around 200V for small neon lamps not 1000V as reported), and I dubt any appreciable current flow can be produced that way.

I guess some maybe picoampere is what you can expect from static field.

Now suppose 10picoampere is the current you can get from there...

And your battery pack is say... 2800mAh...

You could need then 2800/0.00001 = 280,000,000 hours to get them charged... of say 280,000,000 /24 = 11666666.667 days to get full charge

or... 280,000,000/24/365 = 31,963.47 YEARS TO GET A FULL RECHARGE!

Dang... I think that people... will find more suitable locating the antenna above the roof... make a very sharp tip... add some americium-241 maybe... to get some lightening and DIE than waiting so long ice-age-interval for charging that dang batteries !

Or not ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

But 10pA@1000v, we only need 1.2V.
So divide this by 1000.
Only 32 years.
I want one
now
.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Esteban

If somebody understand Spanish, translated for original Elektor issue, is for indoor uses with short antenna. The drawing only is ilustrative of how can obtaining some ammount of energy. The principle also is used in satellite for solar cells, etc., regarding the publication. Only I share it.

Regards

Esteban

Hi Esteban,

Here is the translation:
The phrase "energy crisis" is becoming increasingly common in our daily conversations. It is very difficult to determine if this phrase is a true crisis or a matter of a popular psychosis. In this climate where energy seems to be topic of everyone's conversation, it is not rare that someone has the idea to utilize a common energy source (static electricity), based on the experiments of Benjamin Franklin. The basic circuit is shown in the figure below. The neon light voltage limiting resistors R1/R2 provide approximately 1.000V to the light. These resistors are connected as voltage dividers which obtain 15Vacross them. This 15 volts is rectified and stabilized by D1, R3, and D2. The battery (10 Nicads in series) is charged via D3. Take note that some components can suffer instabilities. This circuit was originally designed for solar cells in special applications (radio links in the Himilayas, satellite, etc). However, you can use the circuit as a battery charger under one condition: For safety reasons, the captive antenna should be mounted indoors.

What they are saying is this circuit was intended as a method to collect power at remote stations where there is no power. In this application, there is no problem of anyone getting hurt because nobody is there. But it can be used for a home battery charger under one condition: Use it indoors to be safe.

In my opinion, this is a good example of free energy. It's application would be well suited to remote places where you wanted to charge a battery and had no power source.

Some more notes about free static electricity:
The amount of power in the atmosphere can be calculated by looking at measurements made by scientists. We know from these measurements the following data:

1. The average voltage gradient measured at the near surface of the earth is 100v / meter. This amount can become up to 300 v / meter, or as low as 50V / meter, depending on several conditions like time of day, weather, and location on the earth, etc.

2. The average current leaking from the surface of the earth is 2000 amps. This 2000 amps is settling on the surface of the earth, which measures 510,066,000 sq km. This means that for each sq meter of earth surface, there is an average of 3.9 microamps leaking into the atmosphere.

3. Because at the lower levels, the atmosphere is air, it is also a very good insulator, which is the reason why there is only a slow leakage of current from the upper ionosphere.

4. The idea of stringing a wire up into the sky to collect the free power from this voltage gradient will not work efficiently without some more engineering. Erecting a wire in the air in a vertical direction will cause the voltage gradient in the air to deform. This happens because the wire will form a short circuit that connects the ground to the voltage in the air where you are trying to collect a charge. The result is you have moved the ground voltage to a location above where you are trying to collect a charge from. So as the current begins to flow into the top of the charge-collecting antenna, it will quickly pass down the conductor, and the upper voltage will drop to the ground voltage. Then the current will slow down to a trickle, much less than the amount that would freely leak through the atmosphere without the vertical antenna (grounding rod) in place. This will also cause the voltage gradient to become very reduced in the location of the charge-collecting antenna.

Bottom line... the current that you can collect from this antenna is not the same as what would calculate from the undisturbed gradient of 100V/m, and 3.9 microamps in a 1 meter square of surface. But you still collect something, even if less than what is available in an undisturbed gradient. This whole process of disturbing the voltage gradient is what makes the antenna less dangerous than would be expected from a 100v/meter gradient. But beware... there is still a danger if a thunderstorm is brewing... you have built a lightning rod that can easily kill whoever is tinkering with the bottom of the antenna!

Moral of the story:
Keep your antenna indoors like the article says.

Good work, Esteban!

Best wishes,
J_P

has this topic been properly debunkered?

[Max]

Originally Posted by Fred

But 10pA@1000v, we only need 1.2V.
So divide this by 1000.
Only 32 years.
I want one
now
.

Hi,
but the article say that the thing adapt output voltage to the battery-pack voltage... so it's not 10pA@1000V but 10pA@15V or... say 0.00000000015 watts ... 150picowatts !Uh!

Anyway... always you'll get 10pA of current... and your battery pack will require always about 32000 years to charge...

What a smart idea... I say! Getting current from the air...

Must repeat...I think people will make the experiment trying to DIE than expecting that ice-age long recharge...

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Esteban,

Here is the translation:
The phrase "energy crisis" is becoming increasingly common in our daily conversations. It is very difficult to determine if this phrase is a true crisis or a matter of a popular psychosis. In this climate where energy seems to be topic of everyone's conversation, it is not rare that someone has the idea to utilize a common energy source (static electricity), based on the experiments of Benjamin Franklin. The basic circuit is shown in the figure below. The neon light voltage limiting resistors R1/R2 provide approximately 1.000V to the light. These resistors are connected as voltage dividers which obtain 15Vacross them. This 15 volts is rectified and stabilized by D1, R3, and D2. The battery (10 Nicads in series) is charged via D3. Take note that some components can suffer instabilities. This circuit was originally designed for solar cells in special applications (radio links in the Himilayas, satellite, etc). However, you can use the circuit as a battery charger under one condition: For safety reasons, the captive antenna should be mounted indoors.

What they are saying is this circuit was intended as a method to collect power at remote stations where there is no power. In this application, there is no problem of anyone getting hurt because nobody is there. But it can be used for a home battery charger under one condition: Use it indoors to be safe.

In my opinion, this is a good example of free energy. It's application would be well suited to remote places where you wanted to charge a battery and had no power source.

Some more notes about free static electricity:
The amount of power in the atmosphere can be calculated by looking at measurements made by scientists. We know from these measurements the following data:

1. The average voltage gradient measured at the near surface of the earth is 100v / meter. This amount can become up to 300 v / meter, or as low as 50V / meter, depending on several conditions like time of day, weather, and location on the earth, etc.

2. The average current leaking from the surface of the earth is 2000 amps. This 2000 amps is settling on the surface of the earth, which measures 510,066,000 sq km. This means that for each sq meter of earth surface, there is an average of 3.9 microamps leaking into the atmosphere.

3. Because at the lower levels, the atmosphere is air, it is also a very good insulator, which is the reason why there is only a slow leakage of current from the upper ionosphere.

4. The idea of stringing a wire up into the sky to collect the free power from this voltage gradient will not work efficiently without some more engineering. Erecting a wire in the air in a vertical direction will cause the voltage gradient in the air to deform. This happens because the wire will form a short circuit that connects the ground to the voltage in the air where you are trying to collect a charge. The result is you have moved the ground voltage to a location above where you are trying to collect a charge from. So as the current begins to flow into the top of the charge-collecting antenna, it will quickly pass down the conductor, and the upper voltage will drop to the ground voltage. Then the current will slow down to a trickle, much less than the amount that would freely leak through the atmosphere without the vertical antenna (grounding rod) in place. This will also cause the voltage gradient to become very reduced in the location of the charge-collecting antenna.

Bottom line... the current that you can collect from this antenna is not the same as what would calculate from the undisturbed gradient of 100V/m, and 3.9 microamps in a 1 meter square of surface. But you still collect something, even if less than what is available in an undisturbed gradient. This whole process of disturbing the voltage gradient is what makes the antenna less dangerous than would be expected from a 100v/meter gradient. But beware... there is still a danger if a thunderstorm is brewing... you have built a lightning rod that can easily kill whoever is tinkering with the bottom of the antenna!

Moral of the story:
Keep your antenna indoors like the article says.

Good work, Esteban!

Best wishes,
J_P

has this topic been properly debunkered?

Hi,
something is wrong at calculations I think...

if we assume surface of the Earth as 510,066,000 square kms and we know :
1 square km = 1,000meters x 1,000meters = 1,000,000 square meters

we have Earth surface as 510,066,000,000,000 square meters...

Now... assuming your data is correct at current from surface of 2,000Amperes we get really simply the average current from each square meter as:

2,000/510,066,000,000,000 = 3.921 * E-12 or about 4pA/sq meter

But then... your antenna rod will not be sure 1 square meter effective surface ( I think they meant a simple whip antenna.... like for radio receivers)... so you'll probably collect much lower current...

Supposing a uinform field (and it isn't) around antenna and antenna effective area of 1 sq cm we have...

1 sq meter = 100cm x 100cm = 10,000 sq cm

So the expected current for 1 sq cm antenna will be around (really rough calculation) 10,000 times less... or say 3.921 * E-16 Ampere...

We are talking about, then , maybe 392.1 attowatts !!!

With that average current the full recharge of a 2800mah pack will last (not considering losses, self dicharge and chemical recombinations... etc etc etc cause a rechargeable battery don't last a million year usually...)

815,173,972,602 years !

So, that explains, better why it's really a stupid idea...

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

J_P

Before made bad calculations, only presumptions (where is or who calculate that only is obtained 10 pA!!!), read this:

http://electronicdesign.com/Article/...984/20984.html

Also see patent 7183693:

http://www.google.com/patents/about?...BAJ&dq=7183693

There are 1,000 power sources in air, not only atmospheric. Material prepared for US Government:

http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/...ble/764590.pdf

From Nokia:

http://www.technologyreview.com/communications/22764/

Also see this thread posted by me yesterday:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15567

And you can found on the web many and many only typing: battery charger by ambient energy

Regards

Esteban

[Max]

Originally Posted by Esteban

J_P

Before made bad calculations, only presumptions (where is or who calculate that only is obtained 10 pA!!!), read this:

http://electronicdesign.com/Article/...984/20984.html

Also see patent 7183693:

http://www.google.com/patents/about?...BAJ&dq=7183693

There are 1,000 power sources in air, not only atmospheric. Material prepared for US Government:

http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/...ble/764590.pdf

From Nokia:

http://www.technologyreview.com/communications/22764/

Also see this thread posted by me yesterday:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15567

And you can found on the web many and many only typing: battery charger by ambient energy

Regards

Esteban

Hi,
I tell you that's ridiculos current! Don't belive me... wire-up the thing and try to recharge your batteries!

It will take a while... but who cares about ?

Say... ice-age time range... or precession time...

Ok. You posted now different stuff... one thing is talking about energy from the atmospheric voltage gradient ... another is talking about e.g. energy harvesting stuff... like RFIDs and similar things... or things that have solar-cell or wind-turbines etc

The current you can get from the atmosphere is too SMALL.

One thing is using e.g. an electrometer or fet amplifier to detect that it changes etc... another is powering stuff or recharging batteries... you can't in practice.

So what we are talking about here ?

Idiotic schematics from old magazines... or new energy harvesting technology ? Pick one and let me know!

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Esteban

There are 1,000 power sources in air, not only atmospheric. Material prepared for US Government:

http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/...ble/764590.pdf

But where in this list does it mention harvesting energy from atmospheric static electricity? ->

• antenna capture of broadcast .radio energy microwatt to hundreds of milliwatts

• power from transmission lines: tens of microwatt to several kilowatts

• solar/photovoltaic (W) battery charge~ hundreds of milliwatts to about 10W

• small wind turbines: tens to hundreds of watts

• small hydroelectric turbines: watts to hundreds of watts

• thermal storage battery/direct conversion watts to hundreds of watts

• human energy conversion

• cranked generator: up to about 300 W

• mechanical spring: hundreds of microwatt daily average, tens of watts short-term pulse power power derived from walking hundreds of milliwatts to about 20 W.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

cranked generator: up to about 300 W

So , 1 man = 1/2 horse...

Still way too much for some...

[Max]

Originally Posted by Fred

So , 1 man = 1/2 horse...

Still way too much for some...

Depends on the man...

1 metric horsepower = 735.499watts ... so a little more than 0.7Kw

If it's kind of a bull... heavy... with lot of muscles can go well beyond the 300watts!

You have to consider that just for basic functions the body requires around 2400-2500kcalories each day... something 100-125 watts...
not bad...

Now consider the kind of man I'm talking about... that eat 1kg bread at each meal...

These guys were used to heavy work... and introduced around 8000-9000kcalories each day... kind of trains I would say...
maybe you can power them with coal too directly !

But they aren't the trains... the trains are some cadets... during heavy training course : can reach also 12000kilocalories each day! And stay slim!

Of course, guts, balls etc needed... and hi-consumption in that case is mandatory cause big health failures at such rates will happen shortly if that energy surplus is not consumed about totally everyday...

Don't you have the Navy SEALs training manual under your pillow ???
Good reading at the evening...

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Max

So the expected current for 1 sq cm antenna will be around (really rough calculation) 10,000 times less... or say 3.921 * E-16 Ampere...

We are talking about, then , maybe 392.1 attowatts !!!

Hi Max,
Yes, you are right. I made a mistake calculating square meter when I should have converted from square Km. Much less power in a square meter.

But some people have actually extracted usable power from the air. Nicola Tesla, for example. He powered a car from energy extracted from the air using an antenna, causing the car to travel easily to 90 miles per hour with an electric motor. He also put usable power in the air that caused fluorescent lights to light up 20 miles away.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Max,
Yes, you are right. I made a mistake calculating square meter when I should have converted from square Km. Much less power in a square meter.

But some people have actually extracted usable power from the air. Nicola Tesla, for example. He powered a car from energy extracted from the air using an antenna, causing the car to travel easily to 90 miles per hour with an electric motor. He also put usable power in the air that caused fluorescent lights to light up 20 miles away.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi,
not extracting power from atmosphere: I remember Tesla made some experiment with the car that run 90miles... but that was about air (actually space... they would said "aether") as "conductor" of the energy.

That is: there was a powerful RF transmitter tower (the kind Tesla loved so much... very-high voltage Tesla coil driven if I remmeber well, kind of a metallic tower at Colorado Springs... I remember an old picture of it... with kind of a "ball" at top of it, above Tesla's lab building) then the car has a "receiver antenna" made in similar way... and a tuned circuit to get maximum efficiency in the receiving process...
The RF energy radiated by the tower was then collected at selective rf receiver at car... then converted to DC for the car-engine ...electric motor.

Indeed, it was kind of very early energy harvester thing... the radiated power (many kilowatts I guess) were collected at receiver and provide energy to the propulsion system of the car.

Due to the slight attenuation in the 90miles range from transmitter and carefully tuned rx the car was able to get enough power to run...

This was a demo of how electric energy can be translated in RF and then radiated in the space for remote powering of devices... just that happened in the kilowatts range of power! No like RFID and the like... that indeed use very small power and get also very few from harvesting that.

Also, I think today is not possible replicate such experiments cause all modern countries have severe regulation on emission power/frequencies...
A transmitter like Tesla's one could easy swamp any RF communication in a range of 100 and maybe also 1000miles around!

There was also a kind of race for best idea in energy carring methods... like hi voltage dc vs ac etc and Tesla play a role in that along with other brilliant minds of that age.

This experiment had no real applications (till today attention to remote micropowering) cause it obviously creates huge problems to radio communications and exposure to very hi EM fields (possibly dangerous for people and environment in the megawatts/gigawatts range).

So... not power from air/atmosphere but... just using "air" as channel.

I read of experiments using air for generate power but that are really much more complex than Esteban's posted funny article... they use kind of suspended ballons (by some kevlar wire I think) at relatively high height from soil... there are that include hi-speed turbine inside... to use jetstreams and the like , hi height hi speed airflows... and other that in kind of "farms" collect charges from clouds... but I think there's nothing more than experiments and academic interest to them... not real potential of future applications if not e.g. in aerospace designs.

Kind regards,
Max

[pike]

Originally Posted by Max

Hi,
not extracting power from atmosphere: I remember Tesla.

That is: there was a powerful RF transmitter tower

hi EM fields (possibly dangerous for people and environment in the megawatts/gigawatts range).
than Esteban's posted funny article...

Kind regards,
Max

One can even charge from persons body, persons electric fields gets diminished during Orgasm. even field generated by protons too get canceled in ones body, if one gets orgasm first then the persons characteristics re transferred into the other one. if u mate with so called bramhins, then thier dirty charcteristics r transferred.

What happened to Max, Elie doll, got drowned in resession. resession has come due to transfer of jobs and billions of money to Indian subcontinent, and , these fellows mug up( prctise problems many times) and pass top institutes in India, and join to become executives taking huge sums as salary, MNC's like Citi bnk,HSBC Barkley too has these executives finally leading to the down fall of these institutuions......now they r getting bashings in australia specially from north as their govt has come again ......too much to say

[Fred]

So Max was right after all, balls are needed ...but you don´t mention guts,however they don´t work separately...
Max ,you´re good !

[Max]

Originally Posted by pike

One can even charge from persons body, persons electric fields gets diminished during Orgasm. even field generated by protons too get canceled in ones body, if one gets orgasm first then the persons characteristics re transferred into the other one. if u mate with so called bramhins, then thier dirty charcteristics r transferred.

What happened to Max, Elie doll, got drowned in resession. resession has come due to transfer of jobs and billions of money to Indian subcontinent, and , these fellows mug up( prctise problems many times) and pass top institutes in India, and join to become executives taking huge sums as salary, MNC's like Citi bnk,HSBC Barkley too has these executives finally leading to the down fall of these institutuions......now they r getting bashings in australia specially from north as their govt has come again ......too much to say

as always PIKE... you're more drunk than me!

Or did you study to become suru guru ?

Hmmmm... I think maybe you used too much eye cream... your vision is confused...

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Fred

So Max was right after all, balls are needed ...but you don´t mention guts,however they don´t work separately...
Max ,you´re good !

Ahh!!! I see!!! Spike and Chester! Everybody knows who is Spike and who is Chester! Regarding balls, who is that of the most fallen side?

[Monolith]

Free energy is like a free lunch. How free is it?
Perpetum mobile are not possible, what is possible is to find new ways to capture energy sources that are present in nature.
If you have ever lived in a place where there are many thunderstorms, you have probably witnessed "St.Elms fire" and such phenomena. I can tell you it is a terrorizing experience to be caught in such a high intensity static electrical field.
Maybe that is when my brain got fried.

Anyway, here is an idea to capture natures free energy.
Take a wheel like from a bicycle, with a diameter of 30cm. Put it into the position where the axle is horizontal.
It has spokes.
Add lead weights on each spoke so that the weight is evenly distributed and the wheel turns smoothly. the weights are not fixed, but can freely slide on the spokes, but the space to slide is only 0.1mm.

Now start cranking this wheel. When the wheel reaches a certain speed, the centrifugal force will push the weights against the rim. There is pressure between the rim and the weight.
If you place a piezo electric generator (google that) between the weight and the the rim, the piezo electric generator will produce electricity.

The generation of the electricity happens while the pressure on the piezo element is applied and when it is removed again. You get a sine wave output if you apply the pressure in repetitive cycles.

How to get the cycles?

When the wheel turns a the critical velocity, where the centrifugal force is 1G, then the weights exert 0 force on the piezo element when at the top and 2G when at the bottom.

Monolith

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Max

Hi,
not extracting power from atmosphere: I remember Tesla made some experiment with the car that run 90miles... but that was about air (actually space... they would said "aether") as "conductor" of the energy.

That is: there was a powerful RF transmitter tower (the kind Tesla loved so much... very-high voltage Tesla coil driven if I remmeber well, kind of a metallic tower at Colorado Springs... I remember an old picture of it... with kind of a "ball" at top of it, above Tesla's lab building) then the car has a "receiver antenna" made in similar way... and a tuned circuit to get maximum efficiency in the receiving process...
The RF energy radiated by the tower was then collected at selective rf receiver at car... then converted to DC for the car-engine ...electric motor.

Indeed, it was kind of very early energy harvester thing... the radiated power (many kilowatts I guess) were collected at receiver and provide energy to the propulsion system of the car.

Due to the slight attenuation in the 90miles range from transmitter and carefully tuned rx the car was able to get enough power to run...

This was a demo of how electric energy can be translated in RF and then radiated in the space for remote powering of devices... just that happened in the kilowatts range of power! No like RFID and the like... that indeed use very small power and get also very few from harvesting that.

Also, I think today is not possible replicate such experiments cause all modern countries have severe regulation on emission power/frequencies...
A transmitter like Tesla's one could easy swamp any RF communication in a range of 100 and maybe also 1000miles around!

There was also a kind of race for best idea in energy carring methods... like hi voltage dc vs ac etc and Tesla play a role in that along with other brilliant minds of that age.

This experiment had no real applications (till today attention to remote micropowering) cause it obviously creates huge problems to radio communications and exposure to very hi EM fields (possibly dangerous for people and environment in the megawatts/gigawatts range).

So... not power from air/atmosphere but... just using "air" as channel.

I read of experiments using air for generate power but that are really much more complex than Esteban's posted funny article... they use kind of suspended ballons (by some kevlar wire I think) at relatively high height from soil... there are that include hi-speed turbine inside... to use jetstreams and the like , hi height hi speed airflows... and other that in kind of "farms" collect charges from clouds... but I think there's nothing more than experiments and academic interest to them... not real potential of future applications if not e.g. in aerospace designs.

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max,
Apparently, you did not read the article. The car that Tesla built did not receive power transmitted from a tower.

The tower near Colorado springs was a test bed Tesla used before he built his larger tower on the Atlantic coast. Its purpose was to transmit power, but not through the air waves. If you read Tesla's history, you will discover he worked for Edison, designing DC motors and generators. He made many improvements, but he could not convince Edison to convert to his better idea of AC generators. After some arguments with Edison, Tesla went to Westinghouse and told him how much better AC would work. So Westinghouse hired him to make an AC system. Edison then started a propaganda campaign against AC in order to help protect his DC power sales. Eventually, Edison lost, and ended up converting his generators to AC like everyone else.

After Tesla finished his work converting the world to AC power, he went on with his experiments to transmit wireless power, using large high voltage coils that were designed to resonate with some natural frequency of the earth. If you examine his patents closely, you will see he was transmitting power through the ground. The high voltage coil was mounted above ground because it would short out if it was buried, and because it needed to be above ground in order to get assistance from the upper atmosphere. The coil was only for inputting power and creating the correct voltages and frequencies needed. The power was sent out into the ground. J P Morgan, a banker in New York was financing his final experiments in this power transmitting tower. But when Morgan discovered that anyone could install power receiver equipment to tap into his power source without paying, he cut off his support to Tesla. Within a short time the tower was abandoned when still in the construction stages. Eventually the tower was dismantled before any power was sent from it.

Tesla was also the inventor of radio broadcast. In recent years it was discovered that Marconi got his ideas from Tesla's patents, and his long title of inventor of radio broadcasting was rescinded and given to Tesla. But Tesla considered air wave broadcast to be a poor method of transmitting for communications as well as for power. He figured that 95% of the signal is lost when broadcast into the air. But when broadcast into the ground, most of the signal was conserved. Tesla did however use methods to transmit and receive signals and power through the air, for purposes of power and communication on aircraft.

The story of the car did not happen until later, when Tesla had no transmitting towers to experiment with. He was living in a modest apartment, and he built the power transducer in his apartment with a hand full of electronic parts and some tubes that were normally used in radio receivers at that time. He ordered the electric motor made specially to his specifications by Westinghouse. "Due to the slight attenuation in the 90miles range from transmitter and carefully tuned rx the car was able to get enough power to run.".
There was no 90 miles range from a transmitter. There was no transmitter. There was only an electronic box that Tesla built to be put into the glove box of the car, and an antenna. The 90 miles means he was able to travel up to 90 miles per hour. This same power source was also able to power a house. Nobody knows what the source of power was that he tapped into. This is because he never patented this method, and kept the details secret. Speculations have been made that he tapped into the same ionizing power source in the upper ionosphere that causes the 100V/ meter voltage gradient at the surface. ei: it is ultimately sun power working in the outer ionosphere layers.

Tesla began with the idea to generate power and transmit it to all parts of the earth to provide free power for everyone. He later discovered he could use his equipment to send more power than he generated -- power from the outer layers of the ionosphere where the sun adds power to the earth. This is the power source that is speculated was used to run his car. "Free power", in the sense that you don't pay for the power you consume. And it is the same power source that Esteban originally showed an article which was designed to tap into for free. Only, Esteban's example seems like a very crude way that maybe is not capable of charging a battery very well.

You can read the story of Tesla's car here: http://www.tfcbooks.com/teslafaq/q&a_016.htm

You will see this is NOT an example of using the air for a transmitting medium to receive power transmitted from a tower on the ground.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

This is interesting JP.
By creating a ionized conductive "tube" between the upper and lower layers of atmosphere, i can imagine the monstruous amount of current that will flow between them...

Ebookee has a great amount of books about Tesla.

regards,
Fred.

[Max]

Hi,
I read in different places... websites etc...


seems some talk of free-energy device unknown source, other that talks of atmopheric energy harversting device... and also as I remember , that the car was remotely powered by a transmitter made by Tesla just for that... transmitting power using the air as "channel".

Now... I stay with my idea... Tesla found a way to remote power the car ...then run it with the electric motor installed... and it worked around 1930 or something.

I belive the story is true, just seems much 90mph as speed... really much... but who knows... spending hundreds Kw of radiating energy or finding a low-loss way to transfer it to the car can also explain that... seems the electric motor mounted in place of ICE was around 80HP... so something about 59Kw not small stuff... and a car can run at 90mph with such engine inside up and running!

Expecially if the road goes down...

Now someone said that the power that supplied the transmitter used by Tesla was derived from e.g. ionosphere/earth circuit... so was the free energy we are talking about... but not the car by itself.

Kind regards,
Max