ICONOS Gold Detector

[Kirk Chi]

I like to know if anyone had good experience of having a business transaction with ICONOS Gold Detector. My experience has been very unfortunate. Please find below the summary of my experience:


- After 83 days after ICONOS received the money, I still do not have the product delivered.
- ICONOS shipped a defective product that does not work, so I returned the product back.
- ICONOS requested more money (350 Euros) for the replacement. They promised that they will ship the replace immediately once they receive the additional money.
- I sent additional money.
- ICONOS informed me that they have shipped the replacement unit using a courier company.
- But I did not receive the product. I confirmed with the courier company that the tracking number they provided does not even exist. The courier company confirmed to me that there is no shipment coming to me
- I tried to reach ICONOS repeatedly, but ICONOS does not respond to my emails and calls anymore.

[putrechigi]

look this and good luck

http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ad.php?t=13384

http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...ad.php?t=13628

where do you live?

[Carl-NC]

As I posted on another forum, when you buy an LRL you're not buying a gold detector, you're buying an education.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

As I posted on another forum, when you buy an LRL you're not buying a gold detector, you're buying an education.

And often it can be an expensive lesson.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Kirk Chi

...
- ICONOS shipped a defective product that does not work, so I returned the product back.

But that is normal. All their units do that.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Kirk Chi

I like to know if anyone had good experience of having a business transaction with ICONOS Gold Detector. My experience has been very unfortunate. Please find below the summary of my experience:


- After 83 days after ICONOS received the money, I still do not have the product delivered.
- ICONOS shipped a defective product that does not work, so I returned the product back.
- ICONOS requested more money (350 Euros) for the replacement. They promised that they will ship the replace immediately once they receive the additional money.
- I sent additional money.
- ICONOS informed me that they have shipped the replacement unit using a courier company.
- But I did not receive the product. I confirmed with the courier company that the tracking number they provided does not even exist. The courier company confirmed to me that there is no shipment coming to me
- I tried to reach ICONOS repeatedly, but ICONOS does not respond to my emails and calls anymore.

I know it is no consolation, but you are not alone, in that this experience turned out to be a very expensive education. You might try a couple of different attempts at complaining, such as contacting the Federal Trade Commission, or an Attorney General. Unfortunately, I've never heard of very much success from this kind of a complaint, when dealing with scammers of this variety. Good luck.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

You might try a couple of different attempts at complaining, such as contacting the Federal Trade Commission, or an Attorney General.

This company is located on the island of Cyprus. There is no federal trade commission to contact. Perhaps http://www.resellerratings.com/ handles this kind of complaint.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Clondike Clad]

NOW THAT IS ALL.
I CAN'T GET A LRL TO WORK AND BUT THE MAKERS GET THE MONEY.
ONE KEY IS MOST ARE NOT MADE IN THE USA
SO NOT MADE IN THE USA, DIAMONDS, PAPER MONEY AND COINS OVER 10 METERS ARE A FLAG FOR A SCAM. WHEN PEOPLE ARE SCAMMED IT MAKE ME MAD:angr y:
I SEEN THE INSIDE OF CRAP FOR DELL AMD OTHERS : angry:
YES THE ICONOS WILL FIND MONEY(BUT IT WILL ONLY WORK FOR THE SELLER)
GETTING YOUR MONEY BACK NO,NOTA AND ZIP.
YOU WILL NOT BE THE LAST.

[Dell Winders]

Klondike, it's not necessary to go into jealous rants. Just build a better LRL for us to use and then you won't have to suffer from anger, complain about, or be envious of what others have accompolished.

I wish you the best. Dell

[Clondike Clad]

Anyone can show crap( show me the circuit so i can build it.
This is a warp drive engine.(Show me the circuit and no scam please.)

[putrechigi]

Andreas where you are, you some advice from friend unfortunate given that the icons you've worked ..................

and geo? you have the iconos

[Dell Winders]

inside of what dell
Anyone can show crap( show me the circuit so i can build it.
This is a warp drive engine.(Show me the circuit and no scam please.)

I posted a photo of the LRL circuit I use, as you requested on another thread. You are welcome to build your own. Anyone can. I did!

But since you have already pre-determined it is crap, why don't you build a better LRL and let us learn from your field experience use?

Ranting about what others do, or don't do to suit you, doesn't resolve anything. It only demonstrates your own inability to comprehend. Show us how you would build a better LRL? I look forward to hearing of your own discoveries with LRL.

" THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND." dELL

[Max]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I posted a photo of the LRL circuit I use, as you requested on another thread. You are welcome to build your own. Anyone can. I did!

But since you have already pre-determined it is crap, why don't you build a better LRL and let us learn from your field experience use?

Ranting about what others do, or don't do to suit you, doesn't resolve anything. It only demonstrates your own inability to comprehend. Show us how you would build a better LRL? I look forward to hearing of your own discoveries with LRL.

" THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND." dELL

Be real and got some shame... you're not playing the guitar on the MTV... but probably melt some glue just right now...

This is the general equation for getting richer:

LRL = money for nothing

But seems that people wanna make you all, "LRL manifacturers", richer anyway...

Kind regards,
Max

[Dell Winders]

Max, as I said,"

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND."

Your ignorance and dis-honest claims are showing.

I don't use hot glue in the products I build. Never have. Where do you see any? I don't even own a glue gun.

The shame is on you for not being truthful. Get real! Dell

[Max]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Max, as I said,"

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND."

Your ignorance and dis-honest claims are showing.

I don't use hot glue in the products I build. Never have. Where do you see any? I don't even own a glue gun.

The shame is on you for not being truthful. Get real! Dell

maybe is the age...

So it's just like when you wrote you don't sell dowsing rods...

I think you need some phospor more in the pap, Dell!

Maybe you forget stuff... I see... I understand...

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

but the question is... if not you... WHO THE HELL MADE THIS ?

Sorry I forgot you don't know... and also if know that... you probably forget that now... cause you need the chemical stuff in the pap!

Really I don't know why Clondyke Clad posted that stuff with hot melt glue around... must ask him!

Kind regards,
Max

[Geo]

Originally Posted by putrechigi

Andreas where you are, you some advice from friend unfortunate given that the icons you've worked ..................

and geo? you have the iconos

I have the iconos.
Where is your problem????
I am here!!!!!!!!!

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Max

but the question is... if not you... WHO THE HELL MADE THIS ?

Sorry I forgot you don't know... and also if know that... you probably forget that now... cause you need the chemical stuff in the pap!

Really I don't know why Clondyke Clad posted that stuff with hot melt glue around... must ask him!
Just lookie at this
http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/...r800/index.dat
Kind regards,
Now Dell you tell me you don't own a glue gun?
I have glue guns and most electronic's people have glue guns
Now you tell me ,you YES YOU don't have a glue gun.
DELL STOP THE LIE.
Max

NOW please stop the lie.

[Dell Winders]

So it's just like when you wrote you don't sell dowsing rods...

That's true. I have never sold any Rods intended for use for Mental Meta-physical Dowsing.

Since Dowsing Rods are usually held parallel with the ground, and the Rods I am using in the photo are angled towared the ground, it is obvious I am not Dowsing with the Rods in the photo. The dual Antenna rods I sell are intended to be used with LRL products. If you wish to use them for mental Dowsing, that is your perrogative, but not reccommended by me.

Really I don't know why Clondyke Clad posted that stuff with hot melt glue around... must ask him!

Kind regards,
Max

That's his twisted accusation. It's not my work. I didn't build it. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Max, as I said,"

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND."

Your ignorance and dis-honest claims are showing.

I don't use hot glue in the products I build. Never have. Where do you see any? I don't even own a glue gun.

The shame is on you for not being truthful. Get real! Dell

In the LRLs > Reports section of this website, there is a report on the DELL VR-800, and it states "The VR-800 is a so-called long-range locator (LRL) made by Dell Systems of Haines City, FL."
http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/...r800/index.dat
I don't know about you, but I can see a lot of hot glue inside this device.

Now ... maybe you actually didn't construct this thing with your own fair hands, and you paid someone else to do the building ... but you did sell this device. In which case, you're just being pedantic.

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

That's true. I have never sold any Rods intended for use for Mental Meta-physical Dowsing.

Since Dowsing Rods are usually held parallel with the ground, and the Rods I am using in the photo are angled towared the ground, it is obvious I am not Dowsing with the Rods in the photo. The dual Antenna rods I sell are intended to be used with LRL products. If you wish to use them for mental Dowsing, that is your perrogative, but not reccommended by me.



That's his twisted accusation. It's not my work. I didn't build it. Dell

Dell if I am twisted is that better than a scammer?
As you know and I repeat AS YOU KNOW your LRL works just like the others.
MONEY FOR THE SELLER only.
Why don't you take Carl's 25,000 and show us your stuff works.
Oh who is that man is not you??????
Why are you using him as you?
NOW DON'T LIE

[Kirk Chi]

Geo,
Is your ICONOS working?
I am not having good experience with ICONOS Gold Detector company.
They sent me a defective unit. Then after returning and sending more money, they sent me a fake courier traking number that does not exist. Now, they do not reply to my call or email.
Are you having better experience?

[Kirk Chi]

JP,
Thanks for the info on the Federal Trade Commision.
I will follow up.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Kirk Chi

Geo,
Is your ICONOS working?
I am not having good experience with ICONOS Gold Detector company.
They sent me a defective unit. Then after returning and sending more money, they sent me a fake courier traking number that does not exist. Now, they do not reply to my call or email.
Are you having better experience?

Hello.
I know other 3 persons that bought the Iconos. My detector is the first model with sensitivity check on the upper side. My Iconos is working OK. As i know one iconos has detected 4 -5 objectives. One other .... nothing and the third iconos working but as the owner said me he need long time to balance and to start to work.
But remember that Iconos can detect only old burried gold (as iconos says) but not fresh.
I want to believe that the "Iconos" company will send you a good detector
Regards

[Hardi]

Amazing Detector !!!!?
Yet, I could not understand how they could cheat people like this? ... LRL manufactures...
LRL equal =>
# - 10 years waiting just to see if the stuff realy detects or not?
... Who can bury a peace of gold and wait for 10 years or more. It is ossible to say 10 years of being the gold underground is not
enough for that kind (e.g. Iconos, Minero,. etc..) it is open for this kind of physics... at that time there will be not manafacture to return
you the money.
# - LRLs not let you be frustrated...! They beep as you like, in any direction, for any thing located any where !!!! ..... and it is open to
justify the situation. For example, you can complain in any direction that there must be a peace of gold starting from 1m to 12 Km (as
Minero stated) Who knows? Who can say not? If say not.....come and dig it ?
OK . I will dig but just tell me how much..... 1m or 2m or 100s of meters?. Nobody can dig?
So, LRLs realy works untill otherwise proved? It is open for justification....It works but need special experiences, special training an so
on and so forth.
It is exactly like if I say "THE PLACE WHERE PARKED MY BYCYCLE IS THE CENTER OF THE EARTH"
Can anybody prove that is not? If say not please come and measure it? Who can measure it? may be someone like those who
convised peaple to buy there stuff? may be. So, it is fact untill otherwise proved !
# - LRLs costs not too make.....Less than 100 $, So why several thousands for buying... If they sell it for 200$, nobody will buy it!
Be aware with LRLs ....does not detect......expencive...... not scientfically proved.... may be dowsing in an other way...frau d education
... and .... and it also open !!!!