how the pendulum works?

[abdlam]

hi all;
i am work ;detect treasure by cupper cords(pistol...), so i need to know about how the pendulum works with the buries objects while it deep 1 or 2 metters?
please who has any idea about pendulum expirence please pass it to me like;
bendulum measure type and deepth ,i hear it is good to discover treasures!
regards

[Dell Winders]

how the pendulum works?
hi all;
i am work ;detect treasure by cupper cords(pistol...), so i need to know about how the pendulum works with the buries objects while it deep 1 or 2 metters?
please who has any idea about pendulum expirence please pass it to me like;
bendulum measure type and deepth ,i hear it is good to discover treasures!
regards

The Dowsing Pendulum is usually used as a visible communication extension of your own mind. A meta-physics, psychic tool, usually used for Map, photo, and Information Dowsing.

There is no scientifically known physical (physics) connection between the human mind, and buried objects.

However, Dowsing RODS can serve as Antenna with reception according to the materials it is made of, and the humam body can act like a receiver to boost and amplify the strength of an incoming signal. Much like increasing reception radio reception by touching the antenna, or increasing, or decreasing TV reception, depending where you stand, by touching a Rabbit ear TV antenna.

Physics are incorporated in the use of so called "Dowsing" Rod(s) aided by a trained Ideomotor response to provide Mental Discrimination of the "fields' of buried anomalies.

Electronic discrimination of anomalies can be accompolished with the broadcast of specific frequency.

Good luck! Dell

[Max]

Originally Posted by abdlam

hi all;
i am work ;detect treasure by cupper cords(pistol...), so i need to know about how the pendulum works with the buries objects while it deep 1 or 2 metters?
please who has any idea about pendulum expirence please pass it to me like;
bendulum measure type and deepth ,i hear it is good to discover treasures!
regards

Hi,
yes works... but only for to make swiss clocks!

I mean... you will not find the gold pot with it... unless you are some mystical Casey-case maybe!

But I think is not the case you are some Casey if you ask this here... and case read Dell's posts about ethereal signals cases...

Kind regards,
Max

[Lake]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

The Dowsing Pendulum is usually used as a visible communication extension of your own mind. A meta-physics, psychic tool, usually used for Map, photo, and Information Dowsing.

It certainly requires lots of work to practice mind, focus, mind-body-connection etc to get accurate results..
Binaural sounds and meditation might be useful.
http://www.bwgen.com/

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Lake

Binaural sounds and meditation might be useful.

On the other hand, it might not.

[Lake]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

On the other hand, it might not.

Sure.. some people have the gift already when they born..

[Max]

Originally Posted by Lake

Sure.. some people have the gift already when they born..

Or just nobody has that gift...

[Lake]

Here is Canadian Dowsers article about how meditation is useful in dowsing:
http://www.canadiandowsers.org/Article_McCoy1.html

Here are some great tools to practice brains for that:
http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/
http://www.realization.org/page/topi...ctric_guru.htm
http://freenet-homepage.de/moosec/pr...ithEEG13_e.htm
http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/EEGmeditation.htm

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Lake

Here is Canadian Dowsers article about how meditation is useful in dowsing:
http://www.canadiandowsers.org/Article_McCoy1.html

Here are some great tools to practice brains for that:
http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/
http://www.realization.org/page/topi...ctric_guru.htm
http://freenet-homepage.de/moosec/pr...ithEEG13_e.htm
http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/EEGmeditation.htm

Hi Lake,
These links show interesting articles about meditating and measuring brain waves. But I don't see anything about dowsing in any of these links.

Now, when we look at dowsing, it appears that the dowser is attempting to locate things hidden under the ground while holding some appliance in his hands such as rods or a pendulum. We can infer that he is sensing something with the help of the appliance that is interpreted by his brain to locate the hidden item that he is looking for. The apparent mechanisms at work are the existing geophysical fields, the appliance that the dowser holds, the dowser's nervous system, and the dowser's brain. If a dowser is able to accurately locate a hidden object, then it is presumed this is accomplished by the combination of the dowsing appliance and the nervous system and brain of the dowser.

Can it work?
We have seen evidence that many lower animals become very upset before a major earthquake or other geophysical catastrophy. Many of these animals also are able to navigate and sense impending danger in ways that humans cannot.

How do they do it?
Scientists have discovered that many lower animals are equipped with sensors at the ends of their nervous systems that are able to sense geophysical and chemical / electrical anomalies that humans are insensitive to. It appears that the basic method of wiring for the nervous system is similar, but the sensing ability is different depending on the species and also the variation within the species. Could this explain why only a few people claim to be successful with dowsing when compared to the whole earth's population?

Now, we know that within the human species, some people are better at any of the 5 commonly known senses. For example, blind people often have extra keen hearing. But there are also some percentages of people who have excellent hearing or eyesight because they were genetically endowed with it. So we see that within the human species, people can have improved senses because of a genetic gift, or because of training to become more attuned to a particular sense. We also know that genetics can prevent some people from ever developing some senses, such as a person born colorblind will never be able to see certain colors.

So if some people claim to have a dowsing gift, we cannot simply say they do not have this gift. We must first observe them recovering the hidden objects they claim to be able to locate in a double blind test, and then we can determine whether they have dowsing ability or not.

Having said all that, I am wondering...
I figure the nervous system and brain of a space alien may not be constructed exactly the same as the human species, and maybe dowsing is easy for them. Has anybody read any reports on the ability of space aliens to dowse?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Lake]

> These links show interesting articles about meditating and measuring brain
> waves. But I don't see anything about dowsing in any of these links.

I have heard that many dowsers meditate before starting the dowsing.

Canadia Dowsers site clearly says it improves the accuracy.
Some kind of inner state of mind is required to achieve higher accuracy.

I quote some text from canadian dowsers site..

"To achieve accuracy in dowsing, you need to be able to move into a special place of awareness. Meditation is an excellent means to achieve this inner state... editor's note."

So it relates to subject so that is brainwaves are out of balance -> pendulum might not work..

[Lake]

Some dowsers say that they can't use the ability to selfish purposes such as finding treasure, locating mushrooms etc..
They use it for example to heal people..

[Max]

Originally Posted by Lake

Some dowsers say that they can't use the ability to selfish purposes such as finding treasure, locating mushrooms etc..
They use it for example to heal people..

If they say this... must be truth! No dubt !

[Mike(Mont)]

It's like some people have a hard time chewing gum and walking at the same time. If you have to think about it, you aren't dowsing. I've heard of people singing nursery rhymes or doing simple math problems to take their mind off it.

As for meditation, it calms the emotions, reduces tension. In real meditation, the person tunes out outside influences, even minor pain. Not the same as hypnosis. Self hypnosis is delusional and probably responsible for many "dowsing" errors. People really want to believe they have found a Jesuit treasure or whatever.

Depending on which wave component you are detecting, a tuned pendulum can be as simple as a bar magnet on a string north-seeking end pointed down (don't know about down under) or horizontal. It has to do with the earth's magnetic induction which affects all things, not just ferro-magnetic.

[Mike(Mont)]

I read and heard about how hypnotism can do damage to a person. Is it a coincidence that many hypnotists use a pendulum to induce their subjects? I have to believe that many hypnotists have some sort of need to control other people. If you get the chance, turn it down.

[Mike(Mont)]

I sure don't claim to know it all. What I understand is map dowsing detects the vertical wave. I read that if you hold your hands near a faucet of running water it will charge you so you are more able to pick up the vertical waves and feel the resonance of your thought waves and the target. You have to try to feel it. Try moving your hands closer to the water then a little farther away, then back and forth (towards the finger tips then palms) until you feel a cool breezy sensation, usually at least thirty seconds. This is the vorticies of your acupuncture points you are charging. Works for L-rods, too.

[Mike(Mont)]

I plan to try an experiment with a Turenne Cage. This is similar to the Faraday cage but instead of an electric current you use magnets. The magnets are positioned at each corner of a cube (He used wood). For vertical waves you point the bar magnets so the north-seeking pole is pointed down, one magnet at each of the eight corners. Then you need to use a vertical selective pendulum--a bar magnet on a string north-seeking pole pointed down. Place whatever you want to check in the center of the cube and dowse it. I see no reason why a map wouldn't work. Also, it might be possible to build a cage to use an L-rod, I don't know. I'll post my results here.

Hills talks about it, said an experienced dowser can override the effect. So what actually happens inside the cage may be mostly (but not all) a psychological effect. So I started thinking...more of a parabolic funnel shape??? Or maybe just a rifle barrel. Some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And then there is electromagnets possibly hooked up to a frequency generator...You heard it here first.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I plan to try an experiment with a Turenne Cage. This is similar to the Faraday cage but instead of an electric current you use magnets. The magnets are positioned at each corner of a cube (He used wood). For vertical waves you point the bar magnets so the north-seeking pole is pointed down, one magnet at each of the eight corners. Then you need to use a vertical selective pendulum--a bar magnet on a string north-seeking pole pointed down. Place whatever you want to check in the center of the cube and dowse it. I see no reason why a map wouldn't work. Also, it might be possible to build a cage to use an L-rod, I don't know. I'll post my results here.

Hills talks about it, said an experienced dowser can override the effect. So what actually happens inside the cage may be mostly (but not all) a psychological effect. So I started thinking...more of a parabolic funnel shape??? Or maybe just a rifle barrel. Some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And then there is electromagnets possibly hooked up to a frequency generator...You heard it here first.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

So I started thinking...more of a parabolic funnel shape??? Or maybe just a rifle barrel. Some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And then there is electromagnets possibly hooked up to a frequency generator...You heard it here first.

Hi Mike(Mont),
Pay no attention to the naysayers. What do they know about devices worn on the head or magnets?
I for one, think your idea makes a lot of sense.

I have read about experiments along these lines many decades ago that worked for finding things even more important than treasure. Let's take a close look at what has been done in the past. Now, in the photos below, you will see there is apparently no problem to find treasure. And I am certain it will work perfectly just as you described.

But if you have any trouble locating the treasure, then just follow the yellow brick road and keep an eye open for a rainbow... this will mean you are close. But watch out for an ugly lady riding a broom from the west... she can spoil your day! In the worst case, if you don't find treasure, maybe you will find the same thing the tin man recovered so many decades ago...

"What has been done can be done"
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

Please do not distort what I said. I NEVER mentioned wearing anything (especially magnets) on your head. That's very dangerous, can cause brain tumors to grow rapidly if you get the wrong polarity. Most people do not understand anything about magnets, not even which pole is which. Even people who manufacture and sell magnets have it wrong about half the time. There's a book called The Body Magnetic that explains much about it. If you are planning on experimenting with magnets I strongly suggest you study this or don't mess with magnets at all AND NEVER PUT ANY MAGNET NEAR YOUR HEAD. Even some hearing-aid magnets can be harmful and can adversely affect your dowsing.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Please do not distort what I said. I NEVER mentioned wearing anything (especially magnets) on your head. That's very dangerous, can cause brain tumors to grow rapidly if you get the wrong polarity.

Wrong polarity? Your comment makes it sound like one polarity makes brain tumors grow and thus infers the opposite polarity would shrink them or destroy them. Do you have a medical ref where you obtained this information?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Please do not distort what I said. I NEVER mentioned wearing anything (especially magnets) on your head. That's very dangerous, can cause brain tumors to grow rapidly if you get the wrong polarity.

Hi Mike(Mont),
Actually, you did mention some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And you also mentioned a parabolic or funnel shape. Here is what you originally said concerning magnets, transmitters and wearing things:

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

So I started thinking...more of a parabolic funnel shape??? Or maybe just a rifle barrel. Some sort of device you can wear and walk around with. And then there is electromagnets possibly hooked up to a frequency generator...You heard it here first.

Nobody is talking about wearing magnets on your head. What you see on the tin man's head is a metal funnel. This is, of course corresponds to the parabolic funnel shaped device you mentioned that could be worn. (I naturally ruled out wearing a rifle barrel on your head, because it just doesn't fit as well as a funnel).

The original funnel worn by the tin man was galvanized steel. The modern version is an aluminum funnel. Neither of these are magnetic, but the older steel version could concentrate vertical magnetic lines of flux that may be suspected to cause magnetic brain tumors in the cerebellum of the tin man. (Take note: In the story of the original tin man, his scarecrow buddy did not have a cerebellum, or any part of a brain. In fact this is what he was searching for). But for a modern LRL treasure hunter, I would suspect you should use the older plated steel funnel on your head unless you are sure you also don't have a cerebellum. The more modern aluminum version should work nicely as a Faraday shield, but will do little to protect you from the dreaded hazards of wrong-polarity magnetic brain tumors.

The magnet is not worn on the body. Actually, in the configuration shown, there is one magnet with the poles set vertically in the pendulum, and several others, including a large vertically polarized rare earth magnet at the base of the VLF transmitting antenna high atop the water tower. The other four rare earth magnets are placed in the four corners of the area where you are searching. Since it is not practical to put a magnetic cage over a large area of land, we can simply drive a tall steel pipe in the ground at each of the four magnets. This will tend to concentrate the magnetic flux in the four corners of the search area to form a 4-pole matrix canopy over the area you are searching, without stopping the magnetically altered VLF signal coming from high atop the water tower.

I think you can see the relative improvement of this blend of modern and antique methods, which leaves you completely free from the risk of wrong-polarity magnetic brain tumors.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

The wrong polarity probably won't start any new tumors, just increase the growth rate of the current ones. I don't need medical opinion to warn people of the dangers. There's lots of info available on cell phone usage. My sister had a brain tumer removed after months of radiation treatment. She wasn't too happy about it.

Your post said wear it on your head. I never said that. As for the funnel shape parobolic, I was talking about the shape of a Turenne cage on the horizontal axis (sort of like a jet intake) and I haven't a clue if it will do anything that a cube won't do, just brain storming as most of my posts are. In the end, if you "can't dowse any better than random chance" then it is unlikely to help you.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

In the end, if you "can't dowse any better than random chance" then it is unlikely to help you.

I wasn't aware of any published reports showing examples of individuals who could consistently demonstrate dowsing at a significance level better than random chance. Are you aware of any?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Your post said wear it on your head. I never said that. As for the funnel shape parobolic, I was talking about the shape of a Turenne cage on the horizontal axis (sort of like a jet intake) and I haven't a clue if it will do anything that a cube won't do, just brain storming as most of my posts are.

Hi Mike(Mont),
I guess I have to agree that wearing a galvanized steel funnel on your head may not be the best for brainstorming. When you think about it, the steel funnel will probably shield your brain from the influence of magnetic storms. Who knows? Perhaps magnetic storms influencing the brain is how we find some of our best ideas for LRL detection.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

The wrong polarity probably won't start any new tumors, just increase the growth rate of the current ones. I don't need medical opinion to warn people of the dangers. There's lots of info available on cell phone usage. My sister had a brain tumer removed after months of radiation treatment. She wasn't too happy about it.

Your post said wear it on your head. I never said that. As for the funnel shape parobolic, I was talking about the shape of a Turenne cage on the horizontal axis (sort of like a jet intake) and I haven't a clue if it will do anything that a cube won't do, just brain storming as most of my posts are. In the end, if you "can't dowse any better than random chance" then it is unlikely to help you.

Honestly - I cannot decide whether you're being serious or not...