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Old 02-21-2007, 05:19 PM
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I am looking for information about the effectiveness and proper use of a Lectra Search VS100 long range locator. I thank you in advance.
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:13 PM
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The Lectra Search is a dowsing rod. Nothing more. They are all the same, there is no difference in the models. None of them will locate gold or silver. The Lectra Search was just a big money-making scam for Kellyco.

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Old 02-21-2007, 06:55 PM
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You can take a look here: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?t=12501&page=3
in PDF file I've put there you can see little info of one guy who has used Lectra search successfully, albeit I myself dislike these kind of locators but can conclude these detectors (Lectra, Electroscope or Raven) detect in some conditions.
Although there are many people who have found or are finding treasure by these kinds, those are not a complete and really satisfying.
Carl is right those are nothing more than a dowsing rod if you want to have one good and if I were you, I would choose Dell DDL, it does the same perhaps better.
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default the web site Dell DDL

thank you carl and michael
afrom algeria and am searching an long rang locator lrls gold silver ,depth...
Dell DDL it is good and easy to search .
can you give to me web site Dell DDL and price .
thank you excuse my english I speak french.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:03 PM
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In few words, easy to understand:
There is no such thing as WORKING LRL Locator! Trust only to a coin/relic detector VLF or PI type with search pattern below the Search coil max 35-40sm for coin and 1-1.5 for large relic. If you buy LRL i will shoot myself, please be reasonable!
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... if you want to have one good and if I were you, I would choose Dell DDL, it does the same perhaps better.


As Carl says:
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None of them will locate gold or silver.
So how can another non-working device be better than the non-working device you already have?

As you yourself said:
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... it does the same ...
If you multiply any number by zero, you still get zero.
No wonder so many people here are confused.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:29 AM
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afrom algeria and am searching an long rang locator lrls gold silver ,depth...
Dell DDL it is good and easy to search .
I have never ever seen a single LRL that works. Period.

I own a Lectra Search VS100. It is a piece of junk and a scam.

I own two Dell LRLs. They are more junk.

I own a total of 26 LRLs right now. THEY ARE ALL JUNK.

I have heard from many other groups and individuals who are using LRLs in treasure hunts. NONE of them are making recoveries.

I have a $25,000 reward for a demonstration of a working LRL. NO ONE can do it.

Save your money...

- Carl
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:34 AM
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thank you carl and michael
afrom algeria and am searching an long rang locator lrls gold silver ,depth...
Dell DDL it is good and easy to search .
can you give to me web site Dell DDL and price .
thank you excuse my english I speak french.
Don't spend $300US on a bent piece of wire. The Dell DDL is C.R.A.P. just like all the other products Dell sells
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:54 AM
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Question what I can choose

if I want have one good what Ican choose ???
I am looking only gold and silver .and sample to work .do you knowwe have many site treasur here but the detector are not good to search who can helpe me to choose one treasaur hunting .depth are nessecery .
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:10 PM
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Angry what about laserscan

who know some think about the laserscan finding gold and silver.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:47 PM
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HI CARL

what you think about this LRL :


http://knouzm.net/en/guider-3000.html

I ask for price this LRL in my country (convert to US $) : 9700 $

you think this is junk with this price !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 02-22-2007, 06:20 PM
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who know some think about the laserscan finding gold and silver.
If you mean the "Laserscan" as sold by Kellyco, it is a temperature sensor and will give you the temperature of an exposed surface. It will not detect gold or silver.

You seem to have the belief that somewhere there is a treasure hunting device that will be useful in detecting buried gold or silver from long distances. This is a device we all wish for, but IT DOES NOT EXIST. People who sell devices that claim to be long-range treasure locators are most likely FRAUDS.

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Old 02-22-2007, 06:22 PM
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HI CARL

what you think about this LRL :


http://knouzm.net/en/guider-3000.html

I ask for price this LRL in my country (convert to US $) : 9700 $

you think this is junk with this price !!!!!!!!!!!!!

It looks every bit the same as many other LRL scams. I'll wager that it's nothing but a dowsing rod, and is capable of "locating" $9700 exactly once.

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Old 02-22-2007, 06:58 PM
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:55 PM
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HI

I living in salty location (near silkroad) .

CARL you think what metaldetector best work in salty land : PI or T/R or IB

look these
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:01 PM
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For me it seems that the Pi will do the job best. One SD2200 or any GP sounds great. I heard that those nugget hunting detectors can detect coins and large objects very well, not only gold pieces
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:29 PM
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Hi Sisco.

I think that your pictures is from west Asia or Africa,doesn't it?

I think that PI detectors is useful for your location but it is NOT the best.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:34 PM
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HI shahab.

I tell I living near the silkroad.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:56 PM
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I have for making not buy because i am not very rich .

meanwhile very difficult for buy because it is illegal in this location and

for buy and use need to sanction so better make it.
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:09 AM
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Salt is only an issue in wet soils. In dry soils, any detector should work.

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Old 02-23-2007, 02:44 AM
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I have never ever seen a single LRL that works. Period.

I own a Lectra Search VS100. It is a piece of junk and a scam.

I own two Dell LRLs. They are more junk.

I own a total of 26 LRLs right now. THEY ARE ALL JUNK.

I have heard from many other groups and individuals who are using LRLs in treasure hunts. NONE of them are making recoveries.

I have a $25,000 reward for a demonstration of a working LRL. NO ONE can do it.

Save your money...

- Carl
Carl,

Please stop mincing words and tell us what you really think about these LRL devices.
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:02 AM
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Thankyou Carl!

I have heard quite often of people who used Electrodopes in seeded hunts and won them. I saw somewhere on the net someone claiming to have won some big competition hunt using one.

I have been around the hunt circuit for many years. Know alot of people who travel to alot of hunts and some of them are top hunters. No one has ever witnessed any of this "winning" and they laugh when they hear this. The funny part is that it always seems to be people selling them who make these claims.

I am still waiting for proof of these winnings!!! No one has provided any yet. They just cannot seem to remember all the details. Like who, when and where!

Mark S.
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:10 AM
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Electroscope sponsored seeded hunts in the 90's. They were well-covered in "Lost Treasure" magazine. As I recall, in the first year the caches were buried in a field and the participants complained they were too difficult to find. So in subsequent years, the caches were placed along well-marked paths, so anyone just walking along could find them. The whole thing was a joke, and people bought it hook, line, and sinker. Some folks still deny the whole thing was a scam.

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Old 02-23-2007, 04:30 AM
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I am familiar with those hunts. They were in central PA. If I remember right there were two. A third was not possible as there were some near death experiences at the second if you get my drift. I did not go but know a number of people who did and have heard the stories many times. Scam was the name of the game for sure.

Those however are not the hunts that I was referring to. The claims I heard were in various parts of the country and even Canada. Funny, you would think that I would have run into someone by now who witnessed one of these things winning.

When they were new on the market I witnessed someone selling them at a hunt. He placed some silver coins on the ground about 10 feet away and the thing always pointed to them. Even when he was standing next to a case of silver coins and silver and gold jewelry!!!


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Old 02-23-2007, 08:14 AM
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Sisco, I guess you're my compatriot and I even recognized the place and location of pictures, it's a caravanserai from 400-500 years ago. please don't mention anything about country name here and don't put such a pictures here, you know intelligent service is very active against these things even in internet. They search everyday for special names.
Guider 3000 is the same electroscope,....nothing else and its' price is not more than 400-500$ I know Knouzm guys they are master of swindlers I hate them all some *******s, meanwhile price of one thing is not a reason it's perfect or ideal. sometimes some homemade and cheap are much more better and useful than one delusive shapely made by a firm or factory.
when you notice to the claims:
__ the device searches for the following metals ( gold , silver , copper, brass diamond , iron , lead , pearl ,aluminum and water ) .
__ front rage of 1259 m.
__ survey a complete open land of 1000 meter range and shows if precious and important things exist or not.
__ ........
this is exaggeration for these detectors they can only find some anomalies in ground, and you know everywhere you have cavities or water underground, they are good just for places you want to operate based on a reliable treasure map and where most vestiges or marks on ground have gone or disappeared, then by these detectors you can only delimitate place and after that check carefully by a good conventional detector. now here one 300$ DDL can do the same job and if combine it with a good transmitter what a better.
Although as I said before I know and I'm sure many people around the world ( at least here) have succeeded and succeed by these kind of detectors they are people who really believe their device and don't disappoint
themselves with sentences like: it's a whole junk, it never works, or basically and scientifically LRLing is nonsense, with these thoughts you even get no satisfying result from conventional detectors( e.g. one MD).
in PDF file you saw one guy had found by Lectra search, as he believed it, made some practice and went for a serious search.
this is a rule for most cases.
but working and finding is not as easily as sellers claim.
I say one thin everyday :" if you believe in ,you can move mountains, if not, can't move even one gravel.

Maimoune, the fantastic device you are searching for as Carl said is wish and dream for all of us, but you should make a good selection from each kind of detectors to approach yourself to success as near as possible. One device never suffices unless for some superficial coin shooting.
For DDL see here: http://www.omnitron.net/del_prod.htm
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