Dell's complaints

[Dell Winders]

** Dell did this years ago, as well. So the Sniffex is not just garbage, it's old recycled garbage.

Huh? Was I selling or advertising them? How about posting a reminder photo? I don't recall ever manufacturing anything fraudulent.

Carl, Speaking of frauds, it's best you look in the mirror at a scientific pretender. Dell

[Carl-NC]

Dell VR800 report... Fig 11 shows dowsing rods that have wires attached to them, with a plug... Fig 7 shows two little black boxes which the rods plug into. Same concept as illustrated in the Sniffex patent.

[Dell Winders]

Dell VR800 report... Fig 11 shows dowsing rods that have wires attached to them, with a plug... Fig 7 shows two little black boxes which the rods plug into. Same concept as illustrated in the Sniffex patent.

No, you are wrong! That is a single rod concept illustrated in the photo, and your drawing. There is a difference in the use.

It's a fact that I did not manufacture the VR-800, or had anything to do with the design or creation of it.

It's a bald faced lie, and fraud, when you don't know what you are talking about and make false allegations under a scientific pretense.

Carl, you would be wise to retract your allegation and apologize, and not continue to follow the Randi, example of using more lies to cover up his deception. The consequences of your deception will catch up with both of you since your photo's and false allegations in support Randi's, slander to defame my honest reputation are appearing on the internet, and in a national publication.

For you to join in a lie about people without evidence of truth, is not ethical, or moral. Serious repercussions can eventually happen to anyone who choses that path in life and who has no remorse, or apology.

"The door to knowledge, truth or understanding is never open to a closed, or prejudiced mind" Dell

[Carl-NC]

I have no idea what you're complaining about... all I said is that the concept of adding do-dads to the antenna has been done (Kellyco, Afilani), and the concept of plugging dowsing rods into do-dad boxes has been done (Dell). I also have a Dell GS Pro which, I believe, has dowsing rods that plug into a do-dad box, so I'm pretty sure I'm correct in saying that you have employed the concept of plugging dowsing rods into do-dad boxes, the same as Sniffex shows in their patent.

[Dell Winders]

I have no idea what you're complaining about... all I said is that the concept of adding do-dads to the antenna has been done (Kellyco, Afilani), and the concept of plugging dowsing rods into do-dad boxes has been done (Dell). I also have a Dell GS Pro which, I believe, has dowsing rods that plug into a do-dad box, so I'm pretty sure I'm correct in saying that you have employed the concept of plugging dowsing rods into do-dad boxes, the same as Sniffex shows in their patent.

Your reference to "Dell" and old garbage, was to a product in which I had no involvement in the manufacture, and you have already been informed of that. Yet you persist.

If you don't want complaints, or repercussions. Keep your slandorus inferences to your self and present the facts. There is an obvious difference between the control box of a VR-800 and a Pro-GS that even an idiot can see. I don't see any plug-ins in the photo of the alleged sniffex Rod? Where is the comparison?

An apology is in order. Dell

[Carl-NC]

Good grief, what are you talking about? I don't even have a photo of the Sniffex device.

I only stated that the Sniffex device is described as a dowsing rod, with a handle that plugs into some kind of do-dad box, and said that was something you had done long ago. Are you telling me you've never sold LRLs that have dowsing rods, with wires that come out of the handles and plug into some kind of do-dad box?

[Dell Winders]

** Dell did this years ago, as well. So the Sniffex is not just garbage, it's old recycled garbage.

:mad: :mad: I don't appreciate your intention to defame my name with the inference that I am manufacturing garbage products. An apology is in order. Yes, or No?

[Carl-NC]

It was not an inference, Dell... you make garbage products.

[Dell Winders]

Are you as equally opinionated about the consumers who have already purchased my home made products?

How would Carl, build a product that I would not proclaim it to be garbage? Can you? Dell

[Dell Winders]

It was not an inference, Dell... you make garbage products.

Carl, I hope you are smart enough know better. customers wouldn't be sending letters of praise and providing word of mouth advertising if they thought they had invested their money in garbage.

I know you are never going to apologize to me no matter how much you have been wrong about me. That would betray your loyalty to the Skeptic cult agenda. You would loose your bn status and be frowned upon by your peers. Your ego and pride would would suffer if you ever lost favor and could no longer be of slander service to the Amazing lieing Randi.

It takes courage for a person raised with morals to deny the facts all these years and stand up for belief in an unscrpulous Skeptic Cult leader. I'm sure you will have Randi's praises. And Sam's. (the Watcher) for your efforts.

Enjoy for now! Dell

[Carl-NC]

Dell, if you want to discuss your products, please start a new thread.

[Dell Winders]

Dell, if you want to discuss your products, please start a new thread.

Nope! It was Carl, who started the subject of "Garbage", on this thread. Not me. I'm replying to your "Garbage".

It was not an inference, Dell... you make garbage products.

Dell

[Leto]

customers wouldn't be sending letters of praise and providing word of mouth advertising if they thought they had invested their money in garbage.

Hi Dell. I have read some of those letters of praises from your website. That one about discovery of Noah's ark with your equipment is very interesting..

Do you really belive this is Noah's ark?

[michael]

I on my own, have used Dell Directional Rod (DDL). it's really different from L rods and strongly pulls to target. As I wrote here: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...t=11046&page=9
Honesty to god all of my statements are true.
We could pass all of the double blind tests by DDL. When at first we saw and held it in our hands said "this was DDL?!! don't think can do more than other rods" , but no, honestly it was another thing.
It's unfair to name it garbage. As I had no experience with other Dell products can't emit statement about, but believe one thing; "A handful indicates a kharvar"

[Carl-NC]

Michael, if you're happy with your DDL, and it's putting the gold in your hand, then by golly, use it!

[Dell Winders]

I moved Dell's off-topic complaining to a new thread. This thread is for the discussion of the Sniffex device, if anyone is still interested.

Just deleting your derogatory comment, and a simple apology is suffecient. Dell

** Dell did this years ago, as well. So the Sniffex is not just garbage, it's old recycled garbage.

[Dell Winders]

Michael, if you're happy with your DDL, and it's putting the gold in your hand, then by golly, use it

Carl, there you go again with assumption. The DDL is not a Gold Locator. That is a fact. Dell

:mad: :confused:
"For you to join in a lie about people without evidence of truth, is not ethical,
or moral. Serious repercussions can eventually happen to anyone who choses that
path in life and who has no remorse, or apology..."
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Look who's talking !? You should think twice about what you just said! The same measures
could be taken in your case....Is there any law there in Miami?
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"Carl, I hope you are smart enough know better. customers wouldn't be sending letters
of praise and providing word of mouth advertising if they thought they had invested
their money in garbage..."
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What customers you are talking about!? Those from TV Shop?Those who advertising all those
scum products every day,again and again....Make's me wanna puke of them!
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"It was not an inference, Dell... you make garbage products. ..."
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Dell for sure is making garbage products! Everybody who had chance to test it, knows that!
Only morons still beleive in those! And morons are the strongest associates in any
advertising business whatever.
Who want to argue any more here? Me not, for sure! But please stop opening more threads
on one only subject here! We have here dozen threads about same stuff. LRL,dowsing,mineoro,
pseudo science,blah-blah, various bogus devices and projects. It is spreading like cancer.
One simple thread is enough. O.K. i can agree that those people can be here,can use this
forum, but give them one thread,their own thread.Do not let them to open a new thread every
day. Just look the forum,count threads by type or thema, and you'll see that they grow up
every day,more and more.But the very same people,same number.No more new names,same people
spreading everywhere,bugging and bashing more and more! They can persuade even a God to
visit hell by weekend, if continue like this!
One thing i do know for sure.Nobody can persuade me to beleive in nonsences.I am not moron.
Only thing,i am gonna leave from here for good. This supposed to be good news for them.But
so as i heared, the other people will leave too.Sooner or later this forum will be the place
just for them, and Carl...you'll be in a big trouble...
Why am i so "called" to mix here? I'll explain.
For a while, let's imagine this situation:
Let's put that you live in a small place.Year by year, you noticing more and more man from
your place turns to be a ***! So,you do not have problem with that, you are straight and
all's fine, at least more girls for you! But, you have a son! As he grows up, you became
afraid that he'll turn to a *** too if you do not undertake something! So, to preclude that,
you must start fighting against them! And,slowly, step by step, you became the great
antagonist against gays. You'll use any means to destroy them.God bless you!
The very same thing here. I know that it is impossible to turn those people to stop.But
i would like to preclude others to be catched in lies, prejudices and frauds!
When tissue is infected at that level that it can endager the rest of body, you simply
operate and cut it out.Simply as that!
So, at the end, since those kind of people exist, and they are already here,o.k. let them
be there, but give them just enough space and no more.Neither one step more! As administrator,
and very accountable person here, you have very serious responsibility, cose this supposed to
be public place.A lot of youngsters coming here.What are they goona learn here?LRL!? Dowsing!?
"Foolishing" and acting like idiot!? Think about that....
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[Dell Winders]

Do you really belive this is Noah's ark?

Leto, Personally, I do not know if if it is, or isn't the remains of Noah's Ark. I will leave that answer to the historians and biblical scholars. As far as I know there may have been several large ships (Arks) and people that may have survived the great flood of that period, although the bible only relates the account of Noah.

A video documentary by G Edward Griffen, "The Discovery of Noah's Ark" http://www.realityzone.com does present some compelling evidence. It is Turkey's #1 archaeology site.

David Fasold, was my dearest friend and we had close communication of the events right up until the day he died. It is my opinion that if there ever has been a man that was chosen of GOD, for a specific purpose on this earth, David Fasold was one of those men. I am humbled and priveledged to have known him, regardless of what people wish to believe, or not to believe. Dell

[Dell Winders]

I on my own, have used Dell Directional Rod (DDL). it's really different from L rods and strongly pulls to target. As I wrote here: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/s...t=11046&page=9
Honesty to god all of my statements are true.
We could pass all of the double blind tests by DDL. When at first we saw and held it in our hands said "this was DDL?!! don't think can do more than other rods" , but no, honestly it was another thing.
It's unfair to name it garbage. As I had no experience with other Dell products can't emit statement about, but believe one thing; "A handful indicates a kharvar"

Michael, thank you for your honesty, and kind words. Dell

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

David Fasold, was my dearest friend and we had close communication of the events right up until the day he died. It is my opinion that if there ever has been a man that was chosen of GOD, for a specific purpose on this earth, David Fasold was one of those men. I am humbled and priveledged to have known him, regardless of what people wish to believe, or not to believe.

And what David Fasold's final conclusion about the site? Did he believe it was the Ark, or did he finally decide it was a natural geologic formation?

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Carl, there you go again with assumption. The DDL is not a Gold Locator. That is a fact. Dell

I know that, and you know that... but does Michael know that?

[hung]

I just visited Dell's products page and all his concepts sound sane to me. MFD's have been around for a long time. The only thing is that it requires skills from the operator since this method generally utilizes dowsing rods. And many people apparently don't have those skills and can't accept that.
Although in my opinion, a completely electronic device such as the Mineoro ionic detectors are much less prone to interferences and false signals,
I strongly disagree and blame who says Dell's products are garbage.
This, besides being a declared disrespect to forum etiquette, proves an offensive attack to a respected member with lots of experience in the field by who in my opinion should be the guardian of good manners as the moderator.

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by hung

I strongly disagree and blame who says Dell's products are garbage. This, besides being a declared disrespect to forum etiquette, proves an offensive attack to a respected member with lots of experience in the field by who in my opinion should be the guardian of good manners as the moderator.

I didn't say anything about Dell, I just said his products are garbage. I did so with the best manners possible.

Tell me Hung, based on your understanding of MFD, and based on Dell's web site, for what purpose do you think his products are useful? Specifically, what are his products supposed to do?

[Dell Winders]

And what David Fasold's final conclusion about the site? Did he believe it was the Ark, or did he finally decide it was a natural geologic formation?

I'm sorry Carl, I can't speak for other people. Get the video, read the books and learn from that.

It appears to me that David's purpose was to show his research and evidence to allow the professionals, and the public to reach their own conclusions. He didn't seem to feel his personal belief was important

Of course, there will always be Scientific pretenders who will form their conclusion using a single piece of evidence to base their belief on nothing more than presumption and assumption.

"The door to understanding & knowledge is never open to a closed, or prejudiced mind" Dell