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Old 02-10-2014, 11:55 AM
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Hi All
I don't have much explanation to give to you, I think that all Lrls are passive receivers, but not a broadband receiver (I think that the "phenomenon" doesn't have a particular frequency). My lrl amplifies many times an internal signal of about 3Mhz and it measures the phase change between the oscillator and the amplifier stage but it's also possible to measure the amplitude change. The phenomenon changes the phase (and the amplitude) of the amplifier stage but I don't know if only long time buried metals are the cause of the phenomenon. Surely with too gain the Lrl reveals also the "compass effect". The Lrl is not a metal detector but only a "abnormal signals" detector, I suppose that the solar wind may be involved in this "phenomenon" but I'm not sure.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:03 PM
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Mr. Nicolas.
GREAT MASTERS.
- Lrlfranco locator box on the front panel R / S key to how this switch works there? Show this switch connectivity by drawing on the scheme.
- In the same box with pvc pipe wrapped round copper wire diameter of 70 what will happen?
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Mr. Nicolas.
GREAT MASTERS.
- Lrlfranco locator box on the front panel R / S key to how this switch works there? Show this switch connectivity by drawing on the scheme.
- In the same box with pvc pipe wrapped round copper wire diameter of 70 what will happen?
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For detail look this picture

For components PCB ask that from Geo
Because my PCB is not the same of Geo


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Old 02-11-2014, 09:45 AM
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hi to all freinds and nicolas and franco
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Why and What phenomenon is caused by a phase change?
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Old 02-11-2014, 11:06 AM
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Hi iron1944
If You refers to my Lrl (the photo that I posted) in the main box there are power stage and display stage with LM3914 that drives 10 leds. In the front panel there are 3 switchs, one is power on/off, another for dot/strip led display, I mean only one led at a time or all the leds and the last switch is for inverting DC signal from the sensor stage (this is currently not necessary).The 2 terminals of the coil antenna are linked togheter and they go to L1.
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Old 02-11-2014, 02:17 PM
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NEW VERSION PCB OF LRL FRANCO 6CM*5CM
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Old 02-11-2014, 02:50 PM
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NEW VERSION PCB OF LRL FRANCO 6CM*5CM

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Old 02-11-2014, 03:48 PM
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MR. MUSTAFA UBRAM
Thanks for PCBs
PCB BOARD write on the part numbers and part names.?
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:05 PM
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hi franco
Do reveal all the buried metal?exampel bronze?or copper?
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:01 PM
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Hi friend

I put here the antenas Coil with Ferrite for LRL Franco and other LRL's it's more better than telescopic antennas.

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Old 02-21-2014, 05:10 PM
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My Degital LRL A24 with Antenas LRL Franco is so better and thus very sensitive than telescopic antennas

Thank you my dear Franco for this coil.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:41 PM
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Hi Nicolas
My coil antenna is better than ferrite core antenna? For the moment I cannot make experiments.
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:05 PM
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My coil antenna is better than ferrite core antenna? For the moment I cannot make experiments.
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Hi franco I cant understand what you mean

For my Coil is with ferite core diameter 12mm and long 220 mm
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:26 PM
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My Degital LRL A24 with Antenas LRL Franco is so better and thus very sensitive than telescopic antennas

Thank you my dear Franco for this coil.
Hi Nicolas,
You say it is working much better, but doing what ?
It would be great to see results of your experiments.
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:00 PM
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Hi nicolas. Which one is good? King lrl 4.2 or lrl A24 ?
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:23 PM
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You say it is working much better, but doing what ?
It would be great to see results of your experiments.
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Hi Fred

It's a more sensitive than normal telescopic antenna .I have said this before

Here I not speak about Franco LRL. just I mean the coil for franco LRL with ferite Core.

Again not have build the Franco LRL.

For exepriences: I have already made ​​my experience since 3 years. For the full range of my LRL's that I produce and sell.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:26 PM
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hi nicolas and franco
I want to test but Not with metal Old buried ?
What is there another way???/???/
I want to make sure everything is correct.Please guide?
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:04 PM
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Hi nicolas. Which one is good? King lrl 4.2 or lrl A24 ?
Hi Ozanmelih

Again not have build the LRL V4.2. Need Times to finish the program for receiver. Because I use in this version LCD 4x20 or type graphic 128x64

well on that version 4.2 will be more effective than 4.1 and A24.

But the same principle of operation. Just more details on the target found for understanding the frequency of resonance and make my experience on other metals.

it's like a reciprocal in the calculation.

I sold a unit for Turkey, but still no result
I think he has a problem of reception
or they have not yet found a treasure fled
but I wear it for another unit during my trip to Turkey.
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:17 PM
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may you tell me when ll you come here please? I would like to meet you and take more information from your deviceses. I am really interest with your products. Especially king lrl 4.2 with your new type coil
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:19 PM
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And if you dont mind i would like to know who has your device in Turkey. maybe i would meet him and take a look at his devices performance
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:31 PM
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I want to test but Not with metal Old buried ?
What is there another way???/???/
I want to make sure everything is correct.Please guide?
My dear Mustefa I cant tell you nothing about this test because again not have opportunity to build this Franco LRL.

Expect our friend Franco is going to say about it.
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:42 PM
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may you tell me when ll you come here please? I would like to meet you and take more information from your deviceses. I am really interest with your products. Especially king lrl 4.2 with your new type coil
I think end of march yes my dear friend we can meet in Istanbul

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And if you don't mind i would like to know who has your device in Turkey. maybe i would meet him and take a look at his devices performance
I know what problem he have ...It's the soft because not have signat from receive
and the harder I change the PORT for PIC
but you can make visit to see the device and test your experience
I commit myself for a period of one year guarantee my devices sold.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:49 AM
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My dear Mustefa I cant tell you nothing about this test because again not have opportunity to build this Franco LRL.

Expect our friend Franco is going to say about it.
tank you dear nicolas
franco please help me about questions:
I want to test but Not with metal Old buried ?
What is there another way???/???/
I want to make sure everything is correct.Please guide?
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:10 AM
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Hi mustefa ubram
In my opinion there is no other way to test the lrls, you must have a long buried metal that is in same place at least a few months (for my experience) or to know a place where there is surely a long buried metal. An empirical system is exploiting the compass effect, you need to adjust the gain towards the maximum sensitivity until you have the compass effect then you have to lower the gain until it disappears. This happens with my lrl.
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:00 PM
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In my opinion there is no other way to test the lrls, you must have a long buried metal that is in same place at least a few months (for my experience) or to know a place where there is surely a long buried metal. An empirical system is exploiting the compass effect, you need to adjust the gain towards the maximum sensitivity until you have the compass effect then you have to lower the gain until it disappears. This happens with my lrl.
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tank you very much franco
Will reveal whether other metals.exp:copper or bronze?
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