New gold detector!!!

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Why is this electric field formed only by gold or other noble metals? Seems to me that other, more electrically active and more plentiful metals (e.g. Zinc) would create even stronger ionic fields. If these non-noble metals also give rise to these fields, how does one go about discriminating between them, since in either case, these fields are quasi-static or DC in nature.

...What the voltage of the signal being detected,,,,0.00000000003uv or what?
I would like to see the signal on a scope.....

[hung]

I would gladly test your locator, exactly as you specify, and maintain complete secrecy until the both the tests and the report are completed.
Carl

[Max]

Originally Posted by hung

Hi,
talk of serious things...

do you know this Barbados beauty ?

Aren't you from SA all known one each other ?

At the end I'll discover that Mineoro's CEO is Rihanna, from Barbados... but she prefer be called Damaso... in private

Wow ! If so... I'll visit Mineoro's production plant soon man !
Just to see Rihanna... and kiss her hands... not for to see crappy-LRLs !

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by iconos-md

Jplayer
If you run a search on spontaneous potentials and electrochemical potentials on the internet you will see for yourself all the reference you need on this phenomenon.
Now as to how we go about to detect this phenomenon and how we discriminate these static fields is another story,which is confidential.
So I dont understand why would you disagree with these tried and tested geophysical methods which are used everyday?

This is the same sort of pseudoscientific gobbledygook that Mineoro uses to market their own devices. You are distorting real scientific methods to support your dubious claims.
I'm sure that many people here have noticed the con in Iconos!

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

This is the same sort of pseudoscientific gobbledygook that Mineoro uses to market their own devices.

Are you beginning to suspect that Mineoro might be the Iconos "secret partner" who manufacturers the gold sensor and does not wish to be known?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Locator]

J_Player...i don't think so are differently each other

[iconos-md]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

...What the voltage of the signal being detected,,,,0.00000000003uv or what?
I would like to see the signal on a scope.....

Just so that you all can see for the first time,this is what the waveform looks like when we detect the buried gold. This has been captured with a very expensive scope the LeCroy 7100A unit.The X scale is in Kilovolts and the Y scale is in picoseconds.This is what is detected when you enter the static field of buried Gold............... energy peaks.........

[Seden]

Nice Pulsed Induction decay pulse Iconos. Keep that up and I might start to believe in what your doing. LeCroy,man I wouldn't shell out the bucks for those over priced scopes when a H.P. or Tektronix will do-but they are top of the line units.

Randy

[Max]

Originally Posted by iconos-md

Just so that you all can see for the first time,this is what the waveform looks like when we detect the buried gold. This has been captured with a very expensive scope the LeCroy 7100A unit.The X scale is in Kilovolts and the Y scale is in picoseconds.This is what is detected when you enter the static field of buried Gold............... energy peaks.........

Hi,
you say that this is from buried gold detection... ok.

But we have to belive your words cause who knows if the diagram is the product of some other signal generation ?

And cause you show here a picture I'll belive you and your product work and maybe buy it ?

No no man... I wanna see with my eyes device finding gold or a report on a specialized magazine.

You can also show here the dark side of the moon but no way convincing me and people like me that device really work....

Also me can simulate a peak on screen at 0.01 pS and 10KV... no problems it's a drawing !

So... if you want give to the world the proof that your stuff really work as claimed... stop talking and posting cartoons : give a public demonstration e.g. in the US or UK and if your words are truth and facts you'll gain lot of fame and lot of money in few months.

Other things means nothing... I mean also Mineoro posted clouds of ions and now we all (about all) laugh at these.

Kind regards,
Max

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by iconos-md

Just so that you all can see for the first time,this is what the waveform looks like when we detect the buried gold. This has been captured with a very expensive scope the LeCroy 7100A unit.The X scale is in Kilovolts and the Y scale is in picoseconds.This is what is detected when you enter the static field of buried Gold............... energy peaks.........

I think you got it wrong. The Y scale seems to be the Voltage axis and the X axis is the time axis.

Now please explain how a 7100A, which only has a maximum of 3 GHz bandwidth, is able to show a waveform which according to your explanation of the axis scale is a fraction of 1 picosecond. Sorry Iconos, it doesn't make sense. Also explain the almost 4 KVolt signal and how you can display that on a 7100A without further killing the bandwidth due to parasitic capacitance.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Rudy

I think you got it wrong. The Y scale seems to be the Voltage axis and the X axis is the time axis.

Now please explain how a 7100A, which only has a maximum of 3 GHz bandwidth, is able to show a waveform which according to your explanation of the axis scale is a fraction of 1 picosecond. Sorry Iconos, it doesn't make sense. Also explain the almost 4 KVolt signal and how you can display that on a 7100A without further killing the bandwidth due to parasitic capacitance.

Hi Rudy,
good points.

From my informations leCroy 7100A XXL is not 3GHz bandwidth but just 1GHz bandwidth and with rise-time minimum of 400ps... so me too don't understand how he/they pretend to see fractions of ps in its screen !

Mistery of LRL-electronics !

Anyway... as I said before... any photoshop could beat in speed the better scope out there for that purposes (showing cartoons)!

Best regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Look at the waveform below. Can you guess what brand of LRL generated this waveform? (Hint: Uses more than one set of supply batteries).

Get one point for each correct answer -- 5 points possible:

• What property of gold is being measured?
• What kind of amplifier was used to produce the waveform shown?
• Extra bonus point if you can name the IC being measured.
• Does this LRL use any RF signals over 3khz?
• What brand of LRL was this waveform measured on?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Carl-NC]

Iconos,

Your waveform has all the indicators of fabricated artwork... fuzzy grid lines as if from a screenshot, and a crisp waveform line as if from Paintshop Pro. And I suppose you had the 500GHz option installed on your LeCroy, because that's what it would take to capture that waveform.

So when are we going to hear from archaeological professionals who have published accounts of treasure recoveries made with the Iconos? Or anyone, for that matter?

- Carl

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Iconos,

Your waveform has all the indicators of fabricated artwork... fuzzy grid lines as if from a screenshot, and a crisp waveform line as if from Paintshop Pro.

Very funny...

Poor Iconos. You've been busted.

[Max]

Poor Iconos ... he would like a business explosion... and now he get it?

Maybe he didn't mean an explosion in his hands like this...

So... next time... Mr. Iconos... use a cigar... instead of a fake photoshopped-LeCroy much more safe...kind of a fog... and you'll avoid mess !

Best regards,
Max

[J_Player]

And the winner is.... CARL-NC!!!

Yes, Carl won the guess the LRL contest. He offered the only correct answer:

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Your waveform has all the indicators of fabricated artwork... fuzzy grid lines as if from a screenshot, and a crisp waveform line as if from Paintshop Pro. And I suppose you had the 500GHz option installed on your LeCroy, because that's what it would take to capture that waveform.

The waveform I posted was actually a 1/2 size screenshot of the Iconos posted waveform, and I edited the part where the waveform began fluctuating as well as the volt scale, and erased some identifying marks, then converted the finished image to a gif to save filesize.

Yup my fake waveform was designed to fool people into thinking there is some electronic waveform to prove there is a signal from an LRL, when it is really only some image editing. Now if I was a weasel or some rodent that wanted people to send me money, I could use this fake waveform to help trick foolish people into mailing their check to me. Of course I would never provide any scientific publications to demonstrate that scientists believe it works too. Nor would I provide any references to any archaeologists or anyone at all that ever found any treasure with my LRL.

Oh, the beauty of it... I could buy some surplus junk parts like odd-shaped coils, old telephone wires, pieces of plastic water pipes and glue them all together with hot melt glue. Nobody would be the wiser, because I told everyone it works on a secret principle that no EE can figure out.

I expected Carl-NC to be the most likely to figure out the answer first, followed by Qiaozhi and maybe Max. The hint I left in the image is exactly what carl noticed: The sharp waveform where I edited it. But Carl's answer was directed at Iconos, not my post. Apparently Carl was not interested in my prize -- a brand new Toyoda. He is more interested in hearing from archaeological professionals who have published accounts of treasure recoveries made with the Iconos, or anyone, for that matter.

And a good thing Carl is not interested in my prize, because the new Toyoda is a fake too...

[Carl-NC]

Actually, JP, I was typing my post as you posted yours, so I didn't see yours until after I posted. But the fakery was pretty obvious, eh? Gotta get me a 500GHz module for my DSO.

Regarding the Toyoda, I recall some woman suing after she won one... didn't like the upholstery er sumpthin like that.

- Carl

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Actually, JP, I was typing my post as you posted yours, so I didn't see yours until after I posted. But the fakery was pretty obvious, eh? Gotta get me a 500GHz module for my DSO.

Regarding the Toyoda, I recall some woman suing after she won one... didn't like the upholstery er sumpthin like that.

- Carl

I think you're confused between a Toyoda and a Toyota.

[Carl-NC]

PANAMA CITY, Fla. (AP) — A former waitress has settled her lawsuit against Hooters, the restaurant that gave her a toy Yoda doll instead of the Toyota she thought she had won.

Jodee Berry, 27, won a beer sales contest last May at the Panama City Beach Hooters. She believed she had won a new Toyota and happily was escorted to the restaurant's parking lot in a blindfold.

But when the blindfold was removed, she found she had won a new toy Yoda — the little green character from the Star Wars movies.

David Noll, her attorney, said Wednesday that he could not disclose the settlement's details, although he said Berry can now go to a local car dealership and "pick out whatever type of Toyota she wants."

After the stunt, Berry quit the restaurant and filed a lawsuit against Gulf Coast Wings, the restaurant's corporate owner, alleging breach of contract and fraudulent misrepresentation.

The restaurant's manager, Jared Blair, has said the whole contest was an April Fools' joke.


Only in the USA...

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

David Noll, her attorney, said Wednesday that he could not disclose the settlement's details, although he said Berry can now go to a local car dealership and "pick out whatever type of Toyota she wants."

I wonder if she picked out this one: http://www.bornrich.org/entry/toyota...id-for-104750/

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

After the stunt, Berry quit the restaurant and filed a lawsuit against Gulf Coast Wings, the restaurant's corporate owner, alleging breach of contract and fraudulent misrepresentation.

I wonder if the fools who ordered the Iconos will be able to file a lawsuit in the island of Cyprus if their LRLs don't find any treasure? Maybe kind of hard if they don't live in Cyprus. But if they do live in Cyprus and they win the lawsuit, will they be able to choose their favourite treasure for a settlement? (Hint... no way).

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

The restaurant's manager, Jared Blair, has said the whole contest was an April Fools' joke.

Hmmmmm.... This makes me wonder if the Iconos LRL is also an April fools joke..??? Nope, can't be. These bozos are serious, cause it ain't April!

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Qaiozhi

I think you're confused between a Toyoda and a Toyota.

Errrrr... you are wrong, Star Wars breath.... Guess who is Toyoda?
.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Errrrr... you are wrong, Star Wars breath.... Guess who is Toyoda?
.

Now that is funny!

“Powerful you have become, the dark side I sense in you.”

[putrechigi]

To all members of the forum
To all members of the forum
We would like to point out some facts relating to the testing and demonstration of our Gold detectors that many of you demand before buying from us.
First of all you all know very well, that we are a new company on the worldwide market. Only since last week we have begun to deliver our first orders and we will not hide from you the fact that we can just barely cover production demands. We also want you to know that we manufacture most parts of the detector inhouse except for the Gold sensor,which is specially buit by another company, our partner, who wish to remain anonymous for manufacture secrecy.
Some members of this forum have asked for demonstration units and promise to present the results to the Worldwide forum, and we certainly support this and also naturally would like this publicity also. However there is a problem concerning this matter, which we wish to explain. If we begin to offer demonstration units this period for testing, it will be a disaster for our company. All potential new customers will not buy our detectors, but instead they will wait for the results of the test trials, which will mean the stopping of our production, halt of sales until the results are published, in order for the person who is interested to be able to purchase a detector.
We cannot afford to stop our production and sales for the duration of the testing and publishing of the results in order to satisfy some skeptics.
The demand for demostrations and tests from private individuals and professionals alike cannot become a reality, because this is a very big expense with doubtful results and a waste of time and money for us. We do not ask at this moment for opinions about the effectiveness of our detectors, just as we do not ask from our customers to present the positive results, because we know that each one prefers to keep for himself his findings, and we respect that.
Therefore you must understand that any effort on our behalf for the time being to convince the few skeptics who doubt the effectiveness of our Gold detector will generate many problems and delays for the many customers who want to buy this product, and this will not be good strategy for the reputation of our company. But since you are our future clients we must respect your views and opinions, and also we will accept your offer for testing and demonstrations as we have already found a way which will benefit everybody and make this possible.
We only need some more time to stabilize our production rate, and also to acquire the manufacturing know how process for the Gold sensor in order to manufacture this part inhouse also, since it is very costly and difficult to manufacture. Only then will we be able to acquire free demonstration units for the forum in order for people to test and see if our detectors really work 100%.
So you understand that we have NO DOUBTS about the reliability of our detectors, we only need some more time to have available some test units so that we can show the worldwide market what our detectors can achieve.
We thank you all for your understanding.
The iconos Team


kind iconos I think that the time from you required has passed, thing have produced your tests? now will see if are really the serious firm that say to be or no, let's be all ears!

best regards

[putrechigi]

Even your news, you will not want me to think that you are not very serious?

best reguards

[Seden]

Hey, where did you disappear to? I'm waiting for the day you sell to someone in the Los Angeles/Ventura County area that I could get a demonstration of your unit, eh?

Randy