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HI Wm6: Interesting canned post from the Medical estab. However when I attempted to find out about these reported cases of death, Quack watch among others, I hit a blank wall. I pointedly asked just how much 'organic' cyanide would lower or stop the transfer of Oxygen to the point of collapse, and death. No answer.

Swr will love this, but while working as the assayer and mill forman at the Sabino mine, I was hit wth cyanide poisonig, stupid carelessnes from familiarity, not lethal obviously, but enough to experiencew what it must be like. UGH. It left me sensitized to Manufactured Cyanide, but not to natural. I can smell an open drum of manufactrured Cyanide up to 100 ft away, I have won many a bet on this since Cyanide is supposedly undetectable by humans. It is sickly sweet odor to me, vey uncomfortable.

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HI Wm6: Interesting canned post from the Medical estab. However when I attempted to find out about these reported cases of death, Quack watch among others, I hit a blank wall. I pointedly asked just how much 'organic' cyanide would lower or stop the transfer of Oxygen to the point of collapse, and death. No answer.

Swr will love this, but while working as the assayer and mill forman at the Sabino mine, I was hit wth cyanide poisonig, stupid carelessnes from familiarity, not lethal obviously, but enough to experiencew what it must be like. UGH. It left me sensitized to Manufactured Cyanide, but not to natural. I can smell an open drum of manufactrured Cyanide up to 100 ft away, I have won many a bet on this since Cyanide is supposedly undetectable by humans. It is sickly sweet odor to me, vey uncomfortable.

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There is a lot of new (last 10 years) on this interesting topic. Take a looks a Global Scaling and the correlated research by Dr. Helmut Mueller. He discovered a universal equation that shows how standing gravitational waves create the various levels of the the physical univiverse. This includes the gravitational frequency of the elments which coincides with our interest in mineral detection. The amount of correlation with almost all known levels of matter aggregation is absolutely astounding. I have converted his global frequency calculator to English from German and verified lots of his research.
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"No clinical or scientific evidence exists that raw apricot seeds have ever cured anyone from cancer."

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.........unless the companies themselves do not want the real truth because the game is played for money, this is the real truth,
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There is a lot of new (last 10 years) on this interesting topic. Take a looks a Global Scaling and the correlated research by Dr. Helmut Mueller. He discovered a universal equation that shows how standing gravitational waves create the various levels of the the physical univiverse. This includes the gravitational frequency of the elments which coincides with our interest in mineral detection. The amount of correlation with almost all known levels of matter aggregation is absolutely astounding. I have converted his global frequency calculator to English from German and verified lots of his research.
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Agree Goldfinder. There are different resonant frequency of Universe theories (mostly not far from Tesla theory of Earth resonance). Some theories may be promising in field of human healing, but not yet scientificaly proven enough, to be able to take final conclusion about the benefits and how to use these resonant frequencies in treatment of disease.

Of course, as allways, no shortage of charlatans who have invoked this theory and enriched at the expense of desperate patients.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:32 AM
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Evening WM6. You posted -->Of course, as allways, no shortage of charlatans who have invoked this theory and enriched at the expense of desperate patients
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I agree, but Unfortunately it occurs on 'both' sides of the fence.

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Good eveing goldfinder: An excellent post.

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Evening WM6. You posted -->Of course, as allways, no shortage of charlatans who have invoked this theory and enriched at the expense of desperate patients
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I agree, but Unfortunately it occurs on 'both' sides of the fence.

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VM6 my friend: You posted --> Teen son diagnosed with stage IV abdominal sarcoma."
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Is that a serious remark? If so, what do you have to lose by pm'ing me, since at that stage the conventional Med establishment have given up.

I am extremely sorry that this has happened to you and your family. I personally know what it is like to lie in bed and look at yourself and your lack of a future. But one of the key elements in curing yourself is a positive attitude, which under the circumatances is too difficult for most people.

The human psyche is extremely important for curing. You are well aware of many people pass on due entirely to psychosomatic illnesses.


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VM6 my friend: You posted --> Teen son diagnosed with stage IV abdominal sarcoma."

Is that a serious remark?
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Yes, dear Don Jose, remark is serious as is. This is source address, not issues in my family. But I have cancer issues in my family too. Unfortunately these mine are also cases where all the alternative proved as unsuccessful, except of course the looting desperate patients.
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WM6: My friend, Were these alternates after or before conventional medicine? I agree, this is not for public, so em me.

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WM6: My friend, Were these alternates after or before conventional medicine? I agree, this is not for public, so em me.

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Some of these alternative practices in parallel with conventional medicine treatment (no warning from shaman side).

Significant: charlatans always use money before each session and not according "treatment" results.
Significant: no one ever publish each single unsucessful case in his "practice".

I put this here because cancer experiences are of general interest and maybe useful for someone.
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WM6 : My friend you have nicely described both sides of medicine, the conventional and the alternates, but this is normal in most busineses isn't it?

But, for your infomation, I personally have paid for the treatment for 3 different people since they were flat broke and in debt after paying their conventional medical bills.

Actually it wasn't such a big thing since the total costs only run to around $ 150 Dollars US.
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You also posted --> Significant: no one ever publish each single unsucessful case in his "practice".

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I have yet to see any dctor, or even an electronic pro do that.


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Old 12-19-2010, 09:49 PM
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Good afternoon WM6: You posted ->Significant: charlatans always use money before each session and not according "treatment" results.
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Hmmm isn't that the rallying cry of conventional medicine? No guarentees? "Well since that didn't work, let's try this". Of course no refunds.


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Good afternoon WM6: You posted ->Significant: charlatans always use money before each session and not according "treatment" results.
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Hmmm isn't that the rallying cry of conventional medicine? No guarentees? "Well since that didn't work, let's try this". Of course no refunds.


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Finaly end of the life is the only guarantee of our lives.

Mean, educate yourself prior decision for alternative approach or for conventional medical treatment of healty problems.

In conventional medicine we can find some signs of charlatanism in their pacticed doctrine but in large part of alternative the only doctrine is charlatanism.
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Good morning WM6: good to hear from you. You posted -->

Mean, educate yourself prior decision for alternative approach or for conventional medical treatment of healty problems.
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I couldn't agree more. I spent many hours of intensive impartial studying before flatly rejecting Radiation and chemo. When they said that they would have to pull all of my teeth in my jaw, and insert a feeding tube directly into my stomach, I thought "hey, wait a minute, back up a bit",

I questioned the need for pulling the teeth. I was told that the radiation would kill the blood supply to the jaw bone structure and if I had a tooth infection, or any infection, there would be no way to fight it. I asked " you mean of course that I would have Necrosis of the jaw bone", "well, ah, err, hum,, yes to a point". One treatment down.,

They then sent me to the tummy dept to see about inserting the feeding tube. I asked "Why is this necessary and just how do you go about doing this"? Well the radiation will burn or kill much so of your throat area that you will be unable to eat or even swallow for period of time". I asked "just how long would this period of last"? "We can't be sure, it may be for just a month or so, or even longer". "Permanently"? I asked, "Well that is always a possibility". Hmmmm

I then asked about the procedure for insertig the feeding tube. "you have to swllow this light bulb inside the rubber ballon, when it is inside of your tummy, we will inflate the ballon and turn onthe light. this will press your tummy against the muscular structure and show us exactly where to insert the feeding tube".


"Hmm", I thought, interesting, they will kill the bone structure in my jaw and insert a liquid feeding tube in my tummy which I may have to live with for the rest of my life ?? With no positive probable results? No thanks, but thanks.

Since the subliminal gland cancer was growing at the rate of 1/8 of an inch weekly, and had metastasized - 3 lymph glands were involved, 30 something were subsequently removed - I finally did allow a radical neck dissection to buy time, knowing that surgery amost never cures cancer.

So, I simply turned to myself and commenced hrs of intensive research with the end result that I turned to a combination of unconventional treatments, The Carey Reams system and Cesium Chloride. In those days the Cesium Chloride treatment was still in it's infancy, so I almost killed myself by not monitoririg the Potassium reduction. Today it is very safe, and probably the most effective treatment availalble, perhapS 80 -90 % effective cure rate, not just the Ama's 'control' rate of hopefully 5 years.

Today, after a 1000+ hrs in the study of the physiological and psychological effects of cancer I would still unhesitatingly use them before conventional treatments. It has now been 7 years since they operated, I still have not regained full use of my right arm and shoulder.

Every year they insist upon a full search for any signs of cancer, there are none. My Oncologist is so proud of his work that he used me as his success story this year at a meeting of Oncologists, hmmm? I have never told him of what I did, but he did say "it appears that you made the right decison - in your case".

Any way, I finally evolved a theory on Cancer and matastasis, which I have shown to a few Doctors. None have said that it was ludicrous but say hmm, interesting, and took my paper with them.

I did ask him, "while you had me laid out nicely, why didn't you make me look beautiful"? "Oh, but I did, you looked like a squirrel carrying it's winter supply of nuts in it's mouth".

No appropriate answer was thought of.

In any event I thoroughly agree with you, do your research. Do not depend upon anyone else for this, especially on the internet. Yes, listen, then use the incredible ammount of materiel that is readily available to you through the net.

Remember, you have the accumulated knowledge of the world at your fingertips, use it.

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Old 12-20-2010, 04:30 PM
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Dear Don Jose

I am sorry that you go through all this personal trials and canot avoid such story.

I am on your side.

Regarding cancer I belive (not tested personaly yet) that proper lifestile (proper selected: healty food, physical activity, soul calm down technique) can cure better than invasive and aggresive methods of conventional medicine. Probably I am on a way to prove all this believs and - we will see. For now I am quite ready in theory and practice of such alternative approach. Good luck to all of us.
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HI again WM6: Again I completely agree with you. The basic goal is to maintain your Urine and Saliva pH at the optimum level of 6.4 each. At this point you ARE healthy.

Unofrtunately these days this can be difficult to do since we are bombarded with so many chemicals mascarading as healthy food, additives, or as a by product of simply living in our present civilizaton. sigh.

But you seem to be following the correct life line, congratulations, you are hereby invited to my 150 th birthday party, all of the booze and broads -- that your wife will allow- that you wish.

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Glad you survived the orthodox medical establishment. They are a bunch of brain washed idiots, butchers, and con men controlled and manipulated by the big pharmaceutical companies.

I have studied alternative approaches to cancer treatment and other ailments and found many cures over the last 50 years. Many books have been written on these alternative methods and many of them work 100%.

Diet (preferable vegetarian), and clean air, exercise, and meditation are the best preventatives.

Truth will eventually prevail. 100 years from now people will be amazed that our doctors thought that poison (chemo), radiation, and surgery were real "solutions".

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Ummm... Mr. Don,

I been reading that story of the lost Tayopa and I got to the end of it....
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The villagers gave Ruggles and his party several old derroteros, one of which had guided an ill-fated expedition to Tayopa in 1858. A Jesuit had led the party. Only one member had survived. Those who were not killed by Indians on their way, died one way or another at their destination. The sole survivor had been hidden by an Indian girl who later married him. Ruggles and his party surveyed the mines and made estimates as to the time and money necessary to re-open them. They then, tantalizingly and mysteriously, disappear apart from Dobie who later wrote up the story of their expedition in detail. Dobie suggested that Ruggles returned to Guadalupe de Santa Ana shortly afterwards but does not record that he succeeded in extracting any of the silver ore or in finding the great Jesuit hoard.
As you recall, you have repeatedly talked about how boring your story is. But after reading the story of the Tayopa, it seems to be missing something.
I mean, how can it get any more boring than: "The sole survivor had been hidden by an Indian girl who later married him"?

I was just wondering if we could hear the details of what really happened during that expedition. I mean there has to be more to it than that.

And BTW... the photo you posted of your bride does not conjure up images of an Indian girl in the hills... maybe more like an Indian princess....




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The basic goal is to maintain your Urine and Saliva pH at the optimum level of 6.4 each. At this point you ARE healthy.
Agree with this your statement, Don Jose. Not only vegetarian, even not only vegan, but so chosen raw food that convert body fluids into alkaline side. And this works, "easy" to proven for everyone. Easy for one who has the courage to deal with the primary instinct of feeding on regular basis. This approach put your body in another feeling of life.
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Agree with this your statement, Don Jose. Not only vegetarian, even not only vegan, but so chosen raw food that convert body fluids into alkaline side. And this works, "easy" to proven for everyone. Easy for one who has the courage to deal with the primary instinct of feeding on regular basis. This approach put your body in another feeling of life.
also good because you don't need to waste time with cooking. Simply gather some vegetables and eat.

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Good afternoon J _P. Ladies & gentlemen: You mentioned the Tayopa story. If you are ever bored go to for a series of answers on Tayopa etc.-->

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...34019.100.html


Post 113 was something that I was never warned about.sigh.

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Good afternoon J _P. Ladies & gentlemen: You mentioned the Tayopa story. If you are ever bored go to for a series of answers on Tayopa etc.-->

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...34019.100.html


Post 113 was something that I was never warned about.sigh.

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