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Old 04-10-2015, 04:26 PM
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Hi Franco.
Some problems with my health don't let me (for instant) to go for T.H. This time that i have very good LRLs i have n't the ability to work them .

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Old 04-10-2015, 05:46 PM
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franco
your frq is 3mhz.Why not use the L/C circuit the resonant frequency 3mhz?!!!!!!
In this frequency of the circuit is the best performance
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Old 04-11-2015, 01:44 PM
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franco
your frq is 3mhz.Why not use the L/C circuit the resonant frequency 3mhz?!!!!!!
In this frequency of the circuit is the best performance
franco What duty c8-c9 in 4046 model?
what is best value for c8-c9?
How is must The amplitude of the output the signal in c9?
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Old 04-11-2015, 04:18 PM
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The frequency from quartz or vco is not important and is indipendent of LC frequency, it's only a carrier that is modulated by the phenomenon. You must think to C8 and C9 as a single capacitor, in my case I have used 2 capacitor 1pF in series to have 0.5 pF. The exact value depends on the parasitic capacitance. in one case I removed the two capacitors and LRL worked fine. At point X (TR4 collector) there must be a signal from 2 to 4V peak-peak .
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Old 04-11-2015, 09:38 PM
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Thank you franco
not importance frq ok?can i replace 100kh or less with 3mhz for carrier signal?
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Old 04-12-2015, 03:29 PM
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I don't understand what you mean with 100Kh. The better frequency is in the range 3-10 Mhz.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:50 PM
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:50 AM
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Well, but this means that the LRL works in the lab but what it feels is not the phenomenon but electromagnetic sources. Now you need to go to a real field, and the only adjustment is the sensitivity, if it is too sensitive you have the compass effect and if not sensitive enough you do not feel the phenomenon.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:23 PM
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electrical appliances does not beep, wants strong signal to do; the detector circuit can work with 9 volts; in video I have the circuit of your detector Franco
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:59 PM
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Franko ok now?


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Old 04-14-2015, 09:39 PM
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Default HI FRANCO

HI HAKIM FROM ALGERIA I BUILT A NEW FRANCO LRL PHANTOM
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...hlight=phantom
HOW TO TEST WITHOUT AN UNDERGROUND METAL FIELDS, CAN I TEST IT WITH A FUNCTION GENERATOR . IT DO NOT RESPOND TO ELECTRIC FIELDS LIKE TV. HOW I MADE FOR CALIBRATE IT FOR A RECEPTION BETWEEN 50 KHZ AND 80 KHZ. PLEASE HELP ME
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:01 AM
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Hi abdou2014,
the only thing you can do is touch the antenna and see if the signal at the output decreases and if so go out and search and found all the signals with metal detector.
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:17 AM
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Hi taxma1981,
The only thing that I see is that there is a signal in one direction, continuing to walk in that direction, what happens? If the signal stops after a few meters you have to check from other directions, normally the maximum sensitivity is from south to north, minimum from north to south and from east to west as the media also from west to east.
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:49 AM
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Thank you franko..why only of blue led plays; the red lights und the white up only when χρύπησει the buzzer?
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:48 PM
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In this scheme "http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19076&highlight=phantom" DL3 and buzzer are on for low signals, for medium signals is on also DL2 and and for max signals is on also DL1. DL3 and buzzer are always on when there is a signal.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:31 PM
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the second POTENTIOMETER 470 does not work like and turning ...why?,
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Old 04-15-2015, 11:15 PM
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THANK YOU Mr FRANCO, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF OUTGOING FREQUENCY ?
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Old 04-16-2015, 09:54 AM
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P2 is for sensibility, on real field you must change P2 for no compass effect. The effective frequency (internal) of the Lrl is that of the quartz but there is not a direct link with the phenomenon, I think that the "heart" of the revelation of the phenomenon is Tr2.
I repeat that by chance I discovered this LRL. It was a rf sniffer in the range of FM that because of the parasitic capacitances of the circuit board is entered into oscillation about 5 Mhz. Later I improved the design by adding a first oscillator (CD4046, VCO and phase comparator) hoping to get some discrimination and a stable oscillation. Finally I designed the LRL with quartz, very similar to the original design, very stable and with the ability to change the frequency.
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Old 04-16-2015, 11:40 AM
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thank you franko: D
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Old 04-16-2015, 08:02 PM
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Mr FRANCO, CAN YOU PUT THE DIAGRAM OF YOUR FINAL LRL FOR BUILD IT . I HAVE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN THE PHANTOM VERSION .
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:40 AM
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somebody else built and tested this project?
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Old 04-17-2015, 09:51 AM
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PHANTOM version is the same that my final lrl, but not the printed board. What you mean when you say "not successful" ? When you touch the antenna the signal goes down?
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Old 04-18-2015, 08:21 AM
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when I turn it on, there is not a signal in antenna , and when i turn threshold the leds will light one by one with a buzzer sound
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:11 AM
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in the antenna there is no measurable signal, the output (TR5 emitter) there must be a DC signal in the range 1-6V (you can choose for example 4V). To change the output signal you must act on the total value of C2, C3 and C4 which adjusts the amount of signal that will be amplified by TR1, TR2, TR3 and TR4. If the output is zero you have to increase the capacity, remove C2-C3-C4 and in their place put a 1pF capacitor, if not just put 1.5pF and so on until you get 4V output (for example). The output signal must be stable and touching the antenna with a finger signal output should decrease slightly
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:07 PM
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the output of TR5 is 2V , is it ok ?
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