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Old 05-17-2023, 04:33 PM
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Is Can we remove the oscillator from the circuit with a switch and control the zero volt border in different areas with a digital display?
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Old 05-18-2023, 09:03 AM
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Is Can we remove the oscillator from the circuit with a switch and control the zero volt border in different areas with a digital display?
If you unplug the oscillator the lrl doesn't work, the sensor stage amplifies the oscillator signal and the phenomenon somehow interacts with it in mixer TR2.
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Old 05-18-2023, 11:24 AM
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If you unplug the oscillator the lrl doesn't work, the sensor stage amplifies the oscillator signal and the phenomenon somehow interacts with it in mixer TR2.
What I mean is to put a switch after the oscillator so that before exploring, we can set the zero volt limit of the sensor output in different geographical areas with a voltmeter, then put the oscillator in the circuit to explore, please.
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Old 05-18-2023, 02:00 PM
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What I mean is to put a switch after the oscillator so that before exploring, we can set the zero volt limit of the sensor output in different geographical areas with a voltmeter, then put the oscillator in the circuit to explore, please.
Maybe I didn't explain myself well, if you disconnect the oscillator at the sensor stage output there are 0V anywhere in the world.
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Old 05-18-2023, 03:06 PM
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I am using the digital display in your plan and I want to put a switch for the oscillator to make sure that the output of the sensor is zero in different areas and then connect the oscillator.
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Old 05-18-2023, 03:11 PM
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I doubt that this will not have a negative effect on the performance of the oscillator
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Old 05-19-2023, 01:58 PM
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HI DEAR FRIEND FRANCO , I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAVE PROBLEM IN VOLTAGE OUTPUT TR5 ?
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Old 05-19-2023, 02:10 PM
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You can decrease R13 from 4.7K to 3.9K or 3.3K to get around 4V but 3.3V is an acceptable value. Regarding TR5, the correct voltage is obtained during the calibration phase as explained in the helps.
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Old 05-19-2023, 02:17 PM
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HE HAS 0.3 V AT TR5 EMITER
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Old 05-19-2023, 02:39 PM
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As I told you the voltage on the emitter of TR5 depends on the setup.
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Old 06-01-2023, 06:39 AM
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The same problem l have 3mv
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Old 06-01-2023, 09:19 AM
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The same problem l have 3mv
With the quartz disconnected can you get a self oscillation? Are the transistors all type "C" with gain greater than 500? To increase the gain (and obtain self oscillation) as well as increasing C13/c14 you can decrease R10/R12, for example 560 or 470 ohms.
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Old 06-01-2023, 02:01 PM
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Without quartz 0 volt on tr5 emeter tr1and5 is bc549c tr2.3.4 isbc183c i tryed to change value to resester 10 .12 no change and 4.7 no change
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Old 06-01-2023, 02:24 PM
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Without quartz 0 volt on tr5 emeter tr1and5 is bc549c tr2.3.4 isbc183c i tryed to change value to resester 10 .12 no change and 4.7 no change
Connect the quartz and vary C2/C3/C4 until you have an output voltage, for example leave only C2 (1 pF), if that's not enough put C2/C3 in parallel (2 pF). The self oscillation is due to a parasitic connection of the pcb, maybe it doesn't happen in your case.
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Old 06-01-2023, 02:27 PM
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I post the Dream Man pcb at the request of a forum member.
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:56 PM
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Second board works
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Old 06-04-2023, 09:05 AM
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Second board works
Can you post it here?
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Old 06-04-2023, 10:53 AM
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Old 06-04-2023, 01:59 PM
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is it another version of Dream_Man pcb?
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Old 06-04-2023, 03:15 PM
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Yes iranian vertion but the same direction of lines of dream man pcb
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Old 06-04-2023, 03:29 PM
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Yes iranian vertion but the same direction of lines of dream man pcb
Can you explain better for other forum members?
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Old 06-04-2023, 04:33 PM
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They have to read 122 bages
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Old 06-06-2023, 06:11 PM
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Old 06-06-2023, 06:13 PM
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I want to ask you franco about my device ist working right or not . but about Electronic lighter there's no effect
https://youtube.com/shorts/1IjinwcVNHA?feature=share3
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Old 06-07-2023, 09:07 AM
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I want to ask you franco about my device ist working right or not . but about Electronic lighter there's no effect
https://youtube.com/shorts/1IjinwcVNHA?feature=share3
I always recommend checking that by touching the antenna the signal decreases, in this way we know that the sensor stage works correctly and there are no self oscillations. The other tests are not valid and the definitive test is in the field with a metallic target (silver or gold) buried for a few months. Without a test field you have to try it in any terrain and check the signals with the metal detector.
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