PDK inside

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by ANDREAS

Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???
What do you say. I can do or not this is a question?
..this is the circuit of a PDK-2.2 ,is diferent : (post #13 photo)
My drawing and PCB two years ago.
All members can see the same philoshophy drawing PCB and my "signature" design.
My PCB as same "your" PCB or not?
Also this is a question

Here is other PDK-2.2, with diferent shape PCB boards.

Adreas,where is your DESIGN SIGNATURE in this one ?


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[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Here is other PDK-2.2, with diferent shape PCB boards.

Adreas,where is your DESIGN SIGNATURE in this one ?


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I believe this one looks more beautyfull than that from Charris ,but more ugly they are better they work

[ANDREAS]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Here is other PDK-2.2, with diferent shape PCB boards.

Adreas,where is your DESIGN SIGNATURE in this one ?


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No comments, only a pic

[nelson]

Yes, this was the schematics i talk earlier and i new it was posted and signed by Andreas.

Morgan you must admit that you got your pdk from this schematics, because when i asked about your pdk design and if i remember well i told you about this schematic that you build over a pice of wood. Well here it is, this is the one i was asking about.

Now, we all know you had made some mods to this circuit, but this is just some minor changes on sensitivity and frequency (LC tank)

In conclusion, i think that if we need a working pdk or lrl, is just a matter to have a good field test like Morgan does, and then start to play with the circuit to get the signal, increse sensitivity and get the best RX frequency.

Regards
Nelson

Originally Posted by ANDREAS

No comments, only a pic

[WM6]

OK nelson, but where is clear schematic?

From those Andreas photo you cannot copy something useful. At least I am not able to reproduce something usable from those photo, are you?

There are hundreds of such schematics on web, and probably even Morgan don't know anymore which of those he took as basis.

At least, no matter of design, all those passive receiver work in LRL detection the same way, mean - no way.

I am sure that Morgan is copying this passive receiver circuit:

[ANDREAS]

As I said, I do not intend to present inside more PDK. This is Morgan's and he wants to do is his own right. Just give me the right to be personally involved with a circuit that I had left too long without worrying if someone told me "this is a clone."
The circuit can have many improvements if calibrate, if actual work, etc. When I have free time i build it with more modifications, I just have way to do tests without any doubt from anyone.
I try only one interesting point for me. A method for simple calibration via user in practice with a real sample-target
But if continued or ironic and comments from "experts", i will stop dealing "personnaly use".
Only a point morgan is correct 100%. My country this time 1-2 men build and sell 600euro PDK clones with same plastic-box, same knobs and same design. without results. Scrap machines and i see one with my eyes. If i find a photo i can publish here.
Morgan, I hope you understand me. I don't have anything personal with you, also I don't interested for your projects. I am only interested you stop comments and ironic and your friends or partners. Sometimes silence is gold and i love silence for long time, before start again something
best regards

[WM6]

Originally Posted by ANDREAS

My country this time 1-2 men build and sell 600euro PDK clones with same plastic-box, same knobs and same design. without results. Scrap machines and i see one with my eyes.

How do you know that "without results"?

I am sure that re-builders can claim valuable finding examples at huge distance. As you and any other LRL manufacturer.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by ANDREAS

As I said, I do not intend to present inside more PDK. This is Morgan's and he wants to do is his own right. Just give me the right to be personally involved with a circuit that I had left too long without worrying if someone told me "this is a clone."
The circuit can have many improvements if calibrate, if actual work, etc. When I have free time i build it with more modifications, I just have way to do tests without any doubt from anyone.
I try only one interesting point for me. A method for simple calibration via user in practice with a real sample-target
But if continued or ironic and comments from "experts", i will stop dealing "personnaly use".
Only a point morgan is correct 100%. My country this time 1-2 men build and sell 600euro PDK clones with same plastic-box, same knobs and same design. without results. Scrap machines and i see one with my eyes. If i find a photo i can publish here.
Morgan, I hope you understand me. I don't have anything personal with you, also I don't interested for your projects. I am only interested you stop comments and ironic and your friends or partners. Sometimes silence is gold and i love silence for long time, before start again something
best regards

here it is a greek copy of a PDK-2.2

i not believe they work the same as original

[nelson]

My friend

Just copy the know pdk schematics and also you can build my pcb that i posted earlier.
My pdk works, but it needs just some good adjustments for sensitivity and also to use the correct frequencies
I compared my pdk signals with another LRL that was factory build, and it detects almost the same with just diferent sensitivity
For me the clue is to do same has Morgan, to buried some gold or silver and then go for a field test. This is the only way to get a real signal from buried gold or silver.
Regards
Nelson

Originally Posted by WM6

OK nelson, but where is clear schematic?

From those Andreas photo you cannot copy something useful. At least I am not able to reproduce something usable from those photo, are you?

There are hundreds of such schematics on web, and probably even Morgan don't know anymore which of those he took as basis.

At least, no matter of design, all those passive receiver work in LRL detection the same way, mean - no way.

I am sure that Morgan is copying this passive receiver circuit:

[WM6]

Originally Posted by nelson

For me the clue is to do same has Morgan, to buried some gold or silver and then go for a field test. This is the only way to get a real signal from buried gold or silver.

Nelson, if you build geomagnetism sensor (as we can see that some LRL manufacturer do), you can get real signal from those buried silver things with a lot of imagination only.

You only sense movement of your sensor in geomagnetic lines all other conclusions are self deception.

[nelson]

Thankls for the advice, but i prefer to test this with real buried gold or silver.

Regards

Nelson

Originally Posted by WM6

Nelson, if you build geomagnetism sensor (as we can see that some LRL manufacturer do), you can get real signal from those buried silver things with a lot of imagination only.

You only sense movement of your sensor in geomagnetic lines all other conclusions are self deception.

[Nicolas]

Originally Posted by WM6

OK nelson, but where is clear schematic?

From those Andreas photo you cannot copy something useful. At least I am not able to reproduce something usable from those photo, are you?

There are hundreds of such schematics on web, and probably even Morgan don't know anymore which of those he took as basis.

At least, no matter of design, all those passive receiver work in LRL detection the same way, mean - no way.

I am sure that Morgan is copying this passive receiver circuit:

Hi dear WM6

But I can copy that hehehehe look here

and andreas is right

And I have share it free for all

http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=18964

Yes Nelson you are right not problem if move the cable from coil for PDK !!!!!not tust not work if open the cover or move cables

and also for OMBD not need calibration is same the PDK Circuit not have special for me.. and Andreas said need 3 hours for calibration!!!!!

Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration

[ANDREAS]

Originally Posted by Nicolas

.........

Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration

Hi Nicolas
I don't want to offend you
You know we'll all about microprocessor or proteus, but... about design a real electronic LRL , I think you know nothing.
The true is one. PDK need a calibration. For example your PCB design from PDK don't work in practice, but.... is not my right to publish here a PCB better for this project or publish more pics about place (inside PDK) distance between parts etc etc
tHe difference between a simple circuit - LRL are... difference design PCB, place wires and small critical extra tips.
Other example. CIrcuit DCH85. This circuit is correct, but ONE part has false value. Logical Alonso need a trimmer for this part, but if he put a trimmer is very easy build a clone and real work a commercial clones project . The better choice by Alonso is .. use a standard value from this part and maybe .. some units work other countries better or not
I think with this method, Alonso try protect unit.
In this case, i think is better for you my friend, you must work only with electronic rods, this "technology" you know well.
Now if you believe you can build a PDK, please try it. All people my country try- build a clone without results outside lab, maybe you are lucky man.
They are my opinions after 25 years learn LRL
best wishes

[Nicolas]

Originally Posted by ANDREAS

Hi Nicolas
I don't want to offend you

Now if you believe you can build a PDK, please try it. All people my country try- build a clone without results outside lab, maybe you are lucky man.
They are my opinions after 25 years learn LRL

First thank you to not offend me . I also would not do it ever. just some advice and opinions.

Is what I know is that PDK ? Morgan or yours ? ! each of you say what is his. reading this topic .

and after me is a part of receiving circuit of Alonso. proof is here draw by yourself .











Please do not try to say things that are incorrect. Here is the trust

But I encourage the diligent and works and looking develops and adds

As if you were talking about Morgan 's PDK , nothing special my friend and no clearance between the composents . and no calibration needed

So for your OMBD it is special in its circuit that is a mix between PD and PDK and mineoro

So what to talk you away party electronics . did not care for this type of PDK or Your OMBD . Unless the coils ( for I know that stuff. This is my domain and my specialty is in electrical engineering ) .

of how lucky you were talking about? I built a real LRL long range 1500m
and I built a functional PDK .

and I want to build a machine like yours OMBD = PDK along with a distance more than 1500m without coils. especially using a large IR range 1500m magnetic field detection . and need not etalonage in laboratories.

[nelson]

Hi Nicolas

Is that crypton circuit you posted?

Originally Posted by Nicolas

Hi dear WM6

But I can copy that hehehehe look here

and andreas is right

And I have share it free for all

http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=18964

Yes Nelson you are right not problem if move the cable from coil for PDK !!!!!not tust not work if open the cover or move cables

and also for OMBD not need calibration is same the PDK Circuit not have special for me.. and Andreas said need 3 hours for calibration!!!!!

Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration

[Nicolas]

Originally Posted by nelson

Hi Nicolas

Is that crypton circuit you posted?

Hi nelson we are talking about PDK and OMBD make with part of circuit Alonso PD and Morgan and Andreas said need Calibration in laboratories.But for me I not saw any Calibration to need

Maybe in PD need Calibrate coils and ferrite to Zero point but in PDK and OMBD nothing come calibrate

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by ANDREAS

No comments, only a pic

Hello

this project still Alonsos PASSIVE RECEIVER pheraps with the signature Adreas ( Christi ? ) a friend ofered me this project and i decide to try it,as everybody knows i put photo and a video of this project and SAID THAT IT WORKS AS LRL ,however it works only with my MODIFICATIONS after change many FERRITES, also COILS and of course doing mods in TRANSISTORS and the obvious TUNING capacitor near the RX COIL,this is what is called the PDK-2,where is nothing to hide,is modifications by GEO,Esteban,Andreas,and MORGAN put it to work as a LRL,but there is a base in Alonsos Passive Receiver.


regards

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Hello

this project still Alonsos PASSIVE RECEIVER pheraps with the signature Adreas ( Christi ? ) a friend ofered me this project and i decide to try it,as everybody knows i put photo and a video of this project and SAID THAT IT WORKS AS LRL ,however it works only with my MODIFICATIONS after change many FERRITES, also COILS and of course doing mods in TRANSISTORS and the obvious TUNING capacitor near the RX COIL,this is what is called the PDK-2,where is nothing to hide,is modifications by GEO,Esteban,Andreas,and MORGAN put it to work as a LRL,but there is a base in Alonsos Passive Receiver.


regards

Hi all
I think must be say something here , I asked from Geo , Morgan , Andreas , detectoman , to build really work LRL many times ago . Geo didn’t nothing only some pictures . detectoman Under my promise give me some data ( I am thanking from him) .
My request from Andreas , he help me with more data, and more circuits . also I am so thanking from Andreas .
Morgan , I gave you the circuit picture with Andreas name at below.
It was project which Andreas helped to me . I gave you this circuit without Andreas permit . I remember well that modified circuit easily detected 1.5 volt short circuit from 1 meter . also I asked Morgan , said me About Alonso Pd and other data .
But only Andreas data was very valuable for me , i did incorrect work , my false work was Without permit by Andreas, I gave circuit to Morgan . Andreas, I am sorry for my
False .

[nelson]

I agree with you and just ask who help with TOTem schematics?

Regards

Nelson

Originally Posted by aft_72005

Hi all
I think must be say something here , I asked from Geo , Morgan , Andreas , detectoman , to build really work LRL many times ago . Geo didn’t nothing only some pictures . detectoman Under my promise give me some data ( I am thanking from him) .
My request from Andreas , he help me with more data, and more circuits . also I am so thanking from Andreas .
Morgan , I gave you the circuit picture with Andreas name at below.
It was project which Andreas helped to me . I gave you this circuit without Andreas permit . I remember well that modified circuit easily detected 1.5 volt short circuit from 1 meter . also I asked Morgan , said me About Alonso Pd and other data .
But only Andreas data was very valuable for me , i did incorrect work , my false work was Without permit by Andreas, I gave circuit to Morgan . Andreas, I am sorry for my
False .

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by nelson

I agree with you and just ask who help with TOTem schematics?

Regards

Nelson

Qiaozhi is main designer and experimenter of totem PD . yes, totem designed step
By step by Qiaozhi

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by nelson

I agree with you and just ask who help with TOTem schematics?

What are you asking here?

Originally Posted by aft_72005

Qiaozhi is main designer and experimenter of totem PD . yes, totem designed step
By step by Qiaozhi

Aft is correct. TOTeM is my own design based on information freely available in the public domain. It is not a clone of anybody's work. There are even some new concepts in TOTeM that enable the coils to be balanced more easily.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by aft_72005

Hi all
I think must be say something here , I asked from Geo , Morgan , Andreas , detectoman , to build really work LRL many times ago . Geo didn’t nothing only some pictures . detectoman Under my promise give me some data ( I am thanking from him) .
My request from Andreas , he help me with more data, and more circuits . also I am so thanking from Andreas .
Morgan , I gave you the circuit picture with Andreas name at below.
It was project which Andreas helped to me . I gave you this circuit without Andreas permit . I remember well that modified circuit easily detected 1.5 volt short circuit from 1 meter . also I asked Morgan , said me About Alonso Pd and other data .
But only Andreas data was very valuable for me , i did incorrect work , my false work was Without permit by Andreas, I gave circuit to Morgan . Andreas, I am sorry for my
False .

The schematic you gave me,i even not note that name Andreas ,otherwise i delete the name to protect you,i thought this was your project...
But tests in the field with the schematic NOT MODIFICATED shows not possible to locate burieds objects, after many of MY MODIFICATIONS the circuit starts locating the objects.
What Andreas give you was schematic that probaly he not get good results too,otherwise you think he offer you a good working LRL ?
I insist in this schematic becouse of the simplicity,and more easy to calibrate than the Alonsos PD


Regards

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Morgan

The schematic you gave me,i even not note that name Andreas ,otherwise i delete the name to protect you,i thought this was your project...
But tests in the field with the schematic NOT MODIFICATED shows not possible to locate burieds objects, after many of MY MODIFICATIONS the circuit starts locating the objects.
What Andreas give you was schematic that probaly he not get good results too,otherwise you think he offer you a good working LRL ?
I insist in this schematic becouse of the simplicity,and more easy to calibrate than the Alonsos PD


Regards

""i thought this was your project...""
No, it was common project with Andreas . But you are correct because you don’t know
This subject .
""But tests in the field with the schematic NOT MODIFICATED shows not possible to locate burieds objects""
I believe Andreas is honest man , he did real test with real target the circuit which I gave you,. It could locate long buried metals .
""What Andreas give you was schematic that probaly he not get good results too,otherwise you think he offer you a good working LRL ?""
Andreas help me Until I built modified LRL , my PD working well . also remember Andreas movie in YouTube ( Alonso clone PD) . in movie clearly show PD working .



Regards.

[nelson]

My friends stop comments in excess, just build pdk and go for some test on diferent frequencies that implies to retune frequency and sensitivity.
Also very important is to have a good field test (gold or silver buried for long time)

Regards

Nelson

Originally Posted by Morgan

Hello

however it works only with my MODIFICATIONS after change many FERRITES (FREQUENCY CHANGE), also COILS and of course doing mods in TRANSISTORS (TO GET MORE SENSITIVITY)and the obvious TUNING capacitor near the RX COIL (FREQUENCY RETUNE)


regards