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Old 12-11-2012, 11:25 AM
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Yes! Тelescope antennas and probes are pieces of classical MFD (Molecular Frequenz Discriminator), through which the air (antenna) and earth (probe) transmitting selected frequenzes. With two L dowsing rods catches the signal rejected by the country's treasures.
But this theory is not scientifically accurate!
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:48 PM
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Yes! Тelescope antennas and probes are pieces of classical MFD (Molecular Frequenz Discriminator), through which the air (antenna) and earth (probe) transmitting selected frequenzes. With two L dowsing rods catches the signal rejected by the country's treasures.
But this theory is not scientifically accurate!
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:57 PM
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Yes! Тelescope antennas and probes are pieces of classical MFD (Molecular Frequenz Discriminator), through which the air (antenna) and earth (probe) transmitting selected frequenzes. With two L dowsing rods catches the signal rejected by the country's treasures.
But this theory is not scientifically accurate!
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sneshko Do you know what frequency pdf 1000?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:33 PM
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ma330!
Unfortunately, no!
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:46 AM
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i know that vector track systems are toy
But I want to know how to do a separate operation?
What is the basis of separate operation?
what is TRN(target reflection nullifier)?
Can someone explain to me?
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:10 AM
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i know that vector track systems are toy
But I want to know how to do a separate operation?
What is the basis of separate operation?
what is TRN(target reflection nullifier)?
Can someone explain to me?
The basis of separate operation is dowsing.
The TRN (target reflection nullifier) is a complicated word somebody invented to fool people who are naive.
The TRN ciruit at the bottom of the diagram does nothing.
The TRN circuit is not connected in a way that can do anything.
There is no signal passing through the two transistors for the TRN circuit.
There is only a switch which causes the LED to turn on bright or dim.

The circuit you posted above is a joke circuit. It cannot work,
Whoever made this circuit is incompetent.
Even a high school student can figure a better way to make a n 8038 IC work properly.
You can find the true purpose of this circuit below:

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Old 12-21-2012, 07:27 PM
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BEWARE the Vector Trek Systems. They are apparently the work of an Electronics Engineer. Dell
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:03 PM
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BEWARE the Vector Trek Systems. They are apparently the work of an Electronics Engineer. Dell
Vector Trek Systems are apparently the work of an Electronics Engineer?
Where did you get that idea?
From Bob Fitzgerald?
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Originally Posted by Fitzgerald web page
The locators are built by some of the best engineers in the USA and are professional grade.
Guess what? Bob Fitzgerald lied!
No electronic engineer built the circuit you see above.
Why would an electronic engineer install a filter capacitor backwards and take a chance that it might explode?
Why would an electronic engineer short out a resistor instead of connect it to a switch?
Do you suppose the person who built this circuit might be be fired for imcompetence if he worked at a real electronic engineering company?

The only electronic engineering in this circuit is the part that they copied out of the 8038 data sheet and application notes. Everything they did to modify it was a mistake (or possibly a joke to fool naive people into thinking they added circuits that can find treasure).

Fitzgerald says the "Target Reflection Nullifier (TRN) feature shifts the signal line to the correct location and determines the size of the target".
This is a lie!
The TRN circuit they added does nothing except to lower the signal voltage 2/10 of a percent. When you switch it to turn on the LED, nothing changes... it still lowers the signal voltage 2/10 of a percent. The Med-Hi-Low switch does nothing unless you switch it to the low position. Then it causes the signal voltage to reduce by 3/10 of a percent instead of 2/10 of a percent. In other words, all of the resistors with switches they added to the application note circuit does nothing except to lower the signal voltage 2/10 or 3/10 of a percent lower than it would be if they didn't add the circuitry. This means the added circuits and switches reduce a 5 volt signal to 4.985 volts, -- an insignificant amount.
Then we have a set of 5 coils which are wired so no current can flow through them.
No electronic engineer would be caught wiring coils to a signal generator in that way.
This raises the question: Why are they there? To fool people so they will think this LRL is high tech?
Whoever built this is probably laughing at people who pay $1895 to buy it.

Let's review: You can buy the same 8038 function generator fully assembled and working for less than $50, then hook it up to your dowsing rods and antenna here: http://www.amazon.com/Elenco-FG500-1...d_sbs_indust_1
So why would anyone buy this Vector Trex version with stupid circuits added that could explode for $1895?
Because they are stupid?

It appears no electronic engineer builds Vector Trek products. Incompetent people built this circuit.
They have stupid things added to a signal generator circuit, the same as products sold by other LRL salesmen.
This, for example:

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Old 08-14-2013, 04:08 AM
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i know that vector track systems are toy
But I want to know how to do a separate operation?
What is the basis of separate operation?
what is TRN(target reflection nullifier)?
Can someone explain to me?
DO you got the circuit diagram of metal detector? I am really curious about it. I want such kind of metal detector.

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Old 08-14-2013, 04:37 AM
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DO you got the circuit diagram of metal detector? I am really curious about it. I want such kind of metal detector.

This is the MD5008 model. It is a clone (a little modificated) of a whites old model.
Previous model (MD5002) is a clone of whites 5000.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:48 AM
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This detector is toy too. If you are really ready to make goodone than make tgsl. Or make some pi Detektor like barracuda or surf pi
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:14 PM
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Hi Geo

About this detector (MD5002), you said is a clone of Whites 5000, so my question us if you have any feedback about performance, cause old Whites 5000, works very good if you know how to operate it. Indeed i have old whites 4600 and works excellent.

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This is the MD5008 model. It is a clone (a little modificated) of a whites old model.
Previous model (MD5002) is a clone of whites 5000.
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