rangertell examiner field trials

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

If the Examiner is clamped to a length of pipe and then the operator holds onto the other end of the pipe, this would not negate an ideomotor response, and hence would just be another dowsing contraption, complete with the same problems and errors.

To eliminate the possibility of an ideomotor response, the handle of the Examiner will need to be held in a fixture much like a camera tripod. If there is a requirement that a human must be electrically connected to it, then run a wire from the handle (or metal tripod) to the fingers of the operator. But in no other way can the operator touch the tripod.

Hmmm...
That might work if the tripod is insulated. Otherwise it would short direct to ground. I thought the video from the Rangertell site did show some sort of fixture to keep from tilting the Examiner while it was swept back and forth. I need to see if I can find those videos.

Maybe an easier test would be to hold the Examiner against a non-metallic insulated tripod while moving a gold target past it on a string like from a fishing pole.

Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hmmm...

Maybe an easier test would be to hold the Examiner against a non-metallic insulated tripod while moving a gold target past it on a string like from a fishing pole.

J_P

J_P, maybe you need to upgrade to graphical calculator for your continent.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by WM6

J_P, maybe you need to upgrade to graphical calculator for your continent.

I have a Casio fx-300ES which seems to have all the same keys plus a solar power panel. This calculator has been certified to produce very accurate calculations in North America. When it was manufactured in China, the parent company from Tokyo apparently had the foresight to install brighter coloured keys and an English instruction manual. I am not sure the electronics inside are identical to the calculator on the Examiner, but I am guessing they are. After all, math works the same in most languages as far as I know.

But I will never know for sure, because the Casio fx-300ES won't fit in the holster for the calculator on the Examiner.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hmmm...
That might work if the tripod is insulated. Otherwise it would short direct to ground. I thought the video from the Rangertell site did show some sort of fixture to keep from tilting the Examiner while it was swept back and forth. I need to see if I can find those videos.

Maybe an easier test would be to hold the Examiner against a non-metallic insulated tripod while moving a gold target past it on a string like from a fishing pole.

Best wishes,
J_P

Well... whatever, but obviously all tilting and/or movement from the operator must be eliminated if the ideomotor effect is to be eliminated from the overall equation. Once that is done, then it is up to the key code and the internal circuitry to move the antenna towards the target. Period!

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Well... whatever, but obviously all tilting and/or movement from the operator must be eliminated if the ideomotor effect is to be eliminated from the overall equation. Once that is done, then it is up to the key code and the internal circuitry to move the antenna towards the target. Period!

Hi Theseus,
Your objective should not be hard to accomplish. The problem with clamps and vices is they cause a short circuit to ground from the handle, thus bypassing the circuit through the body of the user. It shouldn't be too hard to rig up an insulated non-metallic bracket that the user can brace his hand against so it cannot move. Then a second person can walk past with a chunk of gold while we watch to see if the antenna tracks as usual.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Theseus,
.... Then a second person can walk past with a chunk of gold while we watch to see if the antenna tracks as usual.

Best wishes,
J_P

..... as usual, or as advertised and expected?

[Mike(Mont)]

Being the recovering skeptic that I am, I have to wonder why there is no word on the Ranger Tell locator. I'm not even certain the rod was shipped to California, but assuming it was, I suspect it was then shipped to Marshalltown, Iowa.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Being the recovering skeptic that I am, I have to wonder why there is no word on the Ranger Tell locator. I'm not even certain the rod was shipped to California, but assuming it was, I suspect it was then shipped to Marshalltown, Iowa.

...recovering skeptic...???? What on this green earth would you be skeptical about?

Judging from your input here, it appears you constantly jump from one obscure pseudo-scientific contraption or theory to the next; depending on which occult library book you've just browsed.

If Christopher Hills were alive today, I'm sure he'd be most appreciative of all your support and backing. However, in his absence, no doubt his heirs, who run the business and publish the esoteric musings for people like yourself, are grinning all the way to the bank (with your contributions).

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Being the recovering skeptic that I am,

Nice Mike, which software do you use to recover?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Being the recovering skeptic that I am, I have to wonder why there is no word on the Ranger Tell locator. I'm not even certain the rod was shipped to California, but assuming it was, I suspect it was then shipped to Marshalltown, Iowa.

Hi Mike(Mont),
The examiner was not shipped to Iowa. I am in the Los Angeles area, not Iowa. There is no word on the Examiner bcause I have not done any testing on it yet. It has been raining here on and off for the past week, and I can't do any real field testing until the rainy spell stops. The first thing I will be doing is a calibration of the tester to make sure it is functioning properly. I know it will need some fine tuning because of the intermittent operation I observed so far. So far the fine tuning has been difficult. After I am sure it is calibrated to me or whoever else is using it, then the field testing will begin. While the Rangertell instructions don't mention anything about the weather, I suspect it will be easier to get a good adjustment when the air is dry and the ground is not muddy.

At present, I am preparing a web page to keep tract of progress, which will be made public when I am ready to start the first of the field tests. I will make another update after the ground is no longer muddy and no rain in the forecast.

I am also looking for any people in the Los Angeles area who are interested in helping with the testing of the Rangertell Examiner. If anyone would like to try it out or help conduct some tests, send me a PM so we can make arrangements.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Mike(Mont),
The examiner was not shipped to Iowa. I am in the Los Angeles area, not Iowa. There is no word on the Examiner bcause I have not done any testing on it yet. It has been raining here on and off for the past week, and I can't do any real field testing until the rainy spell stops. The first thing I will be doing is a calibration of the tester to make sure it is functioning properly. I know it will need some fine tuning because of the intermittent operation I observed so far. So far the fine tuning has been difficult. After I am sure it is calibrated to me or whoever else is using it, then the field testing will begin. While the Rangertell instructions don't mention anything about the weather, I suspect it will be easier to get a good adjustment when the air is dry and the ground is not muddy.

At present, I am preparing a web page to keep tract of progress, which will be made public when I am ready to start the first of the field tests. I will make another update after the ground is no longer muddy and no rain in the forecast.

I am also looking for any people in the Los Angeles area who are interested in helping with the testing of the Rangertell Examiner. If anyone would like to try it out or help conduct some tests, send me a PM so we can make arrangements.

Best wishes,
J_P

Too bad Mike couldn't come down to your area. That way he could get some of the results firsthand, and he wouldn't have to speculate and skepticize(*) how the testing is being conducted, and in what State of the Union.

* skepticize is a word I made up

I'm still wondering why Mike thought the unit would be shipped to Iowa; wasn't the Deliver To Address clear?