FUTURE TREASURE GROUP in Dubai

[rezamery]

Please let me know your opinion about the treasure detectors sold by FUTURE TREASURE GROUP in Duabi. http://knouzm.net

[Theseus]

They are offering a mixture of locators. A few of which "appear" to be real electronic metal detectors, the bulk (if not all) of their contraptions are PURE DOWSING rods and MFD/LRL units disguised and dressed up to look like treasure finders that have some electronics associated with them. Don't waste your money on them, unless you just like throwing your money away.

If you want to try dowsing for treasure you can do it with a piece of scrap wire or rod, and I guarantee you will get the same results as any of their pseudo-enhanced dowsing rods. Stuffing a box full of do-nothing electronics and then mounting it on a swivel rod has been going on for years (ie. Omnitron, Electroscope, VectraTrek, RT Examiner and other junk). They all require a dowsing response before they will indicate, and the electronics add NOTHING.

[Dell Winders]

If you want to try dowsing for treasure you can do it with a piece of scrap wire or rod, and I guarantee you will get the same results

And if I don't get the same results?

Tell us about your "guarantee", what do you back it up with, and how do we contact you ? Dell

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

And if I don't get the same results?

Dell

Well, then I guess you are not being honest with us. I don't think that will surprise anyone here.

[rezamery]

Originally Posted by Theseus

They are offering a mixture of locators. A few of which "appear" to be real electronic metal detectors, the bulk (if not all) of their contraptions are PURE DOWSING rods and MFD/LRL units disguised and dressed up to look like treasure finders that have some electronics associated with them. Don't waste your money on them, unless you just like throwing your money away.

If you want to try dowsing for treasure you can do it with a piece of scrap wire or rod, and I guarantee you will get the same results as any of their pseudo-enhanced dowsing rods. Stuffing a box full of do-nothing electronics and then mounting it on a swivel rod has been going on for years (ie. Omnitron, Electroscope, VectraTrek, RT Examiner and other junk). They all require a dowsing response before they will indicate, and the electronics add NOTHING.

Dear Guru,

What do you think about other LRLs not having dowsing rods like BIONIC Alpha Or Bionic 01 made by OKM in Germany? Can we rely on them as a real LRL???

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by rezamery

Dear Guru,

What do you think about other LRLs not having dowsing rods like BIONIC Alpha Or Bionic 01 made by OKM in Germany? Can we rely on them as a real LRL???

Haven't had a chance to look at them yet. When I get time, I'll check them out and let you know.

[Dell Winders]

Originally Posted by rezamery
Dear Guru,

What do you think about other LRLs not having dowsing rods like BIONIC Alpha Or Bionic 01 made by OKM in Germany? Can we rely on them as a real LRL???
Haven't had a chance to look at them yet. When I get time, I'll check them out and let you know.

Thesues, tell us how you conduct a product evaluation? Do you have the OKM product in your possession and conducting a series of actual DB field tests, or are you a pretend scientist like Carl, and some others here who deceive gullible people into believing you have some sort of crystal ball expertise in your claims to be able to look at a photo of a product and tell if it will work?

If there are any purchasers of the OKM, or Future products reading this, I would certainly be interested in hearing of your personal field experience with these products.

Rezemary, you are wise to be cautious, but this forum is run by scientific pretenders, so it's best to take anything they say with a large dose of salts. Dell

[rezamery]

Dell, different models of OKM products have been used by my friends and to some extent they are satisfied with EXP4000 and especially EXP5000. one of their findings has been put in the OKM web-site. You know, the best solution for become successful in professional T Hunting is to use different devices with different capabilities. Every detector has its own advantages and disadvantages, the same as OKM products. They do not do their search everywhere and in every place!!!! just based of some treasure manuscripts to limit their search area and guarantee their success and by using not just one detector. That is the best alternative for us.!!!!

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by rezamery

Dear Guru,

What do you think about other LRLs not having dowsing rods like BIONIC Alpha Or Bionic 01 made by OKM in Germany? Can we rely on them as a real LRL???

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by rezamery

Please let me know your opinion about the treasure detectors sold by FUTURE TREASURE GROUP in Duabi. http://knouzm.net

Please do not duplicate this post throughout the forums. Posting it once here is sufficient. I have removed the other 5 posts.

[michael]

Originally Posted by rezamery

Please let me know your opinion about the treasure detectors sold by FUTURE TREASURE GROUP in Duabi. http://knouzm.net

Hi, dear rezameri, how do you do?
where were you man? again you appeared!!!! how about your expeditions???
I'm astonished you are questioning about knouzm. the knouzm firm are all swindler guys never close them.
you know better that OKM products work more or less but in comparison with good metal detectors do nothing.
they are best for finding cavities instead of metals.
as another side those b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s in Dubai sell devices with outrageous price. I remember one time I questioned of Dell Omnitron pro4 they offered a price near to 14000$. those damned guys are opportunist.

[rezamery]

Hi Michael, How are doing?
I hope every thing goes on your way!
As for knouzm, I am not planning to purchase any thing from them, I would just like to know if their products have been bought by any one or not? and get their observations in this regard. I agree with you, their devices are overpriced and disguised to look like real treasure detectors.

[modaljar]

Originally Posted by rezamery

Please let me know your opinion about the treasure detectors sold by FUTURE TREASURE GROUP in Duabi. http://knouzm.net

The facts are very dissappointed.This company were represents OKM , Menereo and many others.
When they noticed that these wood like boxed machines- what ever you put inside -and sell soo overpriced, you will find somebody to buy.
When they realised that they made these boxes like in Chine whith the cost of no more than 20$ and sell it over 10000$ for dreamers and for those who belevies what they read in the internet and other advertising ways.
You can bring a tomato box and stick two rods infront with good advertising you can sell it over 7000$.
These people and other dealers realise this truth and realise what ever junk they made there will be somebody to buy.
You find no difference between Millioner , FG80, FG90, FG999 , konoz-md and tens of new names everyday are the same lies: discover gold hudred meters away and tens meters down!!
Just lies
Minereo , OKM , Nokta ,Vernel ,accurate locaters and many others : We try all these in the Middle East, and the result in brief:
Waste of time , Waste of money

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by modaljar

The facts are very dissappointed.This company were represents OKM , Menereo and many others.
When they noticed that these wood like boxed machines- what ever you put inside -and sell soo overpriced, you will find somebody to buy.
When they realised that they made these boxes like in Chine whith the cost of no more than 20$ and sell it over 10000$ for dreamers and for those who belevies what they read in the internet and other advertising ways.
You can bring a tomato box and stick two rods infront with good advertising you can sell it over 7000$.
These people and other dealers realise this truth and realise what ever junk they made there will be somebody to buy.
You find no difference between Millioner , FG80, FG90, FG999 , konoz-md and tens of new names everyday are the same lies: discover gold hudred meters away and tens meters down!!
Just lies
Minereo , OKM , Nokta ,Vernel ,accurate locaters and many others : We try all these in the Middle East, and the result in brief:
Waste of time , Waste of money

The exact same conclusions were reached in the US. Also, you can add Ranger-Tell, Omnitron (Dell) and Williams to the list. (And of course, that is by no means a complete list, ...there are others, exhibiting the very same results.)

[Dell Winders]

Good for you Theseus. Just so folks understand. You have done no extensive field testing. You don't offer any credentials. You have No credibility. You use aliases to hide behind so you don't have to accept responsibility for your actions on the internet. You provide no evidence to support your allegations. You are paranoid about Dowsing & Dowsers. So far, you have posted nothing but your personal opinion based on uninformed assumption, and irrational logic, yet you post as if you were an expert to get attention.

Years of Chronic lieing, and your pretense of being Scientific is a psychotic problem. But, you do seem more emotionally stable now, than in the past, so the medications must be working to some extent. You have made a quite an improvement over your previous behaviors. Keep up the good work. Dell

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Good for you Theseus. Just so folks understand. You have done no extensive field testing. You don't offer any credentials. You have No credibility. You use aliases to hide behind so you don't have to accept responsibility for your actions on the internet. You provide no evidence to support your allegations. You are paranoid about Dowsing & Dowsers. So far, you have posted nothing but your personal opinion based on uninformed assumption, and irrational logic, yet you post as if you were an expert to get attention.

Years of Chronic lieing, and your pretense of being Scientific is a psychotic problem. But, you do seem more emotionally stable now, than in the past, so the medications must be working to some extent. You have made a quite an improvement over your previous behaviors. Keep up the good work. Dell

Probably you should not have missed taking your meds today. It appears to have a negative influence on your ability to write coherent thoughts.

I thought Trudy was putting all your daily dosages in a plastic compartmental box, and then reminding you to take them. You should probably get back into taking your meds and having her help you so you don't skip taking them.

Far as my experience with scam LRL products, such as you produce, I have years of experience with not only your items but many other scam products as well.

The information I've gathered and the research I've done on a host of scam LRL contraptions is completely scientific and has been corroborated by many other investigators. (Can you say the same thing about your LRL/MFD concept and theories?) My research is what I base my opinions on, and it is also what I report on - just my own personal experiences and recorded data (I have reams of it).

Calling me a liar is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. You have lied so much, that you seldom can keep track of your own lies; to the point where you lie and prevaricate today to cover up the lies you forgot you told yesterday, or a week ago. This has been your way of doing things ever since I first saw you posting on forums, advertising your wares (scam LRL contraptions). It is obviously a habit there is no medicine you can take to get over.

Aliases? What don't you understand about the concept of user names. Mine is no different from many others here... if you choose to make your user name the same as your given name - that is your choice. My choice, like so many others here, was to come up with a user name of my own making. Near as I can tell, I have not committed a crime by doing that, and if I have, than so have 90% of the other users here. And, as the administrators can attest, I am only logged into this forum under a single user name. (Can you make the same statement?)

Your scam products have been exposed for just exactly what they are. If you want to name-call those that exposed your scam products, feel free to do so, but I'm not the only one that reported the truth about your scams, and name-calling those that exposed your ruse in no way validates your products, it only makes you look silly (or more silly).

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Good for you Theseus. Just so folks understand. You have done no extensive field testing. You don't offer any credentials. You have No credibility. You use aliases to hide behind so you don't have to accept responsibility for your actions on the internet. You provide no evidence to support your allegations. You are paranoid about Dowsing & Dowsers. So far, you have posted nothing but your personal opinion based on uninformed assumption, and irrational logic, yet you post as if you were an expert to get attention.

Years of Chronic lieing, and your pretense of being Scientific is a psychotic problem. But, you do seem more emotionally stable now, than in the past, so the medications must be working to some extent. You have made a quite an improvement over your previous behaviors. Keep up the good work. Dell

Why are you still selling C.R.A.P that don't work??????????
So why don't you just keep your mouth shut.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

Why are you still selling C.R.A.P that don't work??????????

Because every once in awhile (the times are getting fewer and further between, that's why he is so mad) some poor sap will shell out a wad of cash and Dell goes laughing all the way to the bank.

It's a supplemental income to his Social Security.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by rezamery

Please let me know your opinion about the treasure detectors sold by FUTURE TREASURE GROUP in Duabi. http://knouzm.net

Appears your thread has been hijacked and is now a candidate for the "Winders Whines" category.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I'm particularly interested in your Scientific field test reports of the products I build, and sell. I have asked before but you keep coming up blank. Let's see what you have?

Since YOU are the one selling products, i am particularly interested in your reports.

Originally Posted by J_Player

See here for a sure-fire solution that will solve the "deteriorated signal line" problem:
http://h1.ripway.com/super59/lrl/Signal_Line_Spray.htm

Best wishes,
J_P

good!

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Jim

Appears your thread has been hijacked and is now a candidate for the "Winders Whines" category.

Yup....
It seems Dell can't stand to see Theseus post his opinions without jumping in and calling everyone a liar and "scientific pretender".
Hey... isn't is against the rules to call people names? Awww...
I guess it doesn't matter. Nobody pays attention to what Dell says.

I wonder if Dell will ever demonstrate his LRL stuff live doing what it is depicted to do on his web page again?
Nope... I didn't think so, on account of "deteriorated conditions" that could clog up the "signal lines".

Well here's the solution that will make it possible for Dell to demonstrate his X-Scan finding hidden dollar bills in a house:
http://h1.ripway.com/super59/lrl/Signal_Line_Spray.htm

Best wishes,
J_P

[Dell Winders]

Jplayer, That is great. I loved it. Dell

[Dell Winders]

HIJACKED?

This is the post I replied to. Dell

They are offering a mixture of locators. A few of which "appear" to be real electronic metal detectors, the bulk (if not all) of their contraptions are PURE DOWSING rods and MFD/LRL units disguised and dressed up to look like treasure finders that have some electronics associated with them. Don't waste your money on them, unless you just like throwing your money away.

If you want to try dowsing for treasure you can do it with a piece of scrap wire or rod, and I guarantee you will get the same results as any of their pseudo-enhanced dowsing rods. Stuffing a box full of do-nothing electronics and then mounting it on a swivel rod has been going on for years (ie. Omnitron, Electroscope, VectraTrek, RT Examiner and other junk). They all require a dowsing response before they will indicate, and the electronics add NOTHING.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Jplayer, That is great. I loved it. Dell

So are you waiting at the phone to ask Clarence to send you a case of the amazing signal line spray to un-clog the treasure signal lines in Lake City? http://h1.ripway.com/super59/lrl/Signal_Line_Spray.htm

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

Originally Posted by J_Player

So are you waiting at the phone to ask Clarence to send you a case of the amazing signal line spray to un-clog the treasure signal lines in Lake City? http://h1.ripway.com/super59/lrl/Signal_Line_Spray.htm

Best wishes,
J_P

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