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Old 12-24-2011, 10:13 PM
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I will show a new dowsing rod.
This uses a simple signal generator with variable frequency from 3.5 to 70 Hz.
With this you can locate caves, gold, copper etc.
The schematic is very simple (only 2 IC's and one transistor) and you can construct it on the pcb that i will attach here or at a general purpose pcb.
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:28 PM
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The rod abuts at the handle through one bearing.
Onto the antenna a coil (L1) is wound with 280 turns. Wire diameter is 0.15mm.
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:44 PM
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Thanks Geo for this device
Please give the full details of the schematic and device performance.
Frequency for gold and copper, etc.
Merry Christmas Geo
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Thanks Geo for this device
Please give the full details of the schematic and device performance.
Frequency for gold and copper, etc.
Merry Christmas Geo
I will give all the details.
For the moment i try to finish the drawing of pcb...
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I will give all the details.
For the moment i try to finish the drawing of pcb...
tank you geo
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The rod abuts at the handle through one bearing.
Onto the antenna a coil (L1) is wound with 280 turns. Wire diameter is 0.15mm.
Hi Geo,
This is a very good project that you are posting.
You have shown some excellent photos.
I will watch to see more of your project.

Can you tell where you found the plastic box that you used for this locator?

Thank you for showing a good project for the new year.


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Hi Geo,
This is a very good project that you are posting.
You have shown some excellent photos.
I will watch to see more of your project.

Can you tell where you found the plastic box that you used for this locator?

Thank you for showing a good project for the new year.


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Box was the base of a wireless phone .
The phone broke so i kept the plastic box....
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Here the schematic.
Next days i will try to open the box and to write the pats list

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Here the schematic.
Next days i will try to open the box and to write the pats list

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I desire to see the details late last night and the complete schematic of this device, I was awake but did not succeed to see full details
Geo Please give the details about the schematic and parts list, and pcb and frequency performance metallic.
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Hi.
I will show a new dowsing rod.
This uses a simple signal generator with variable frequency from 3.5 to 70 Hz.
With this you can locate caves, gold, copper etc.
The schematic is very simple (only 2 IC's and one transistor) and you can construct it on the pcb that i will attach here or at a general purpose pcb.
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Geo happy new year to you,
very nice rod, it would not have a Frequency Counter on the rod?
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Geo happy new year to you,
very nice rod, it would not have a Frequency Counter on the rod?
Hi Takis
Happy New Year, kalh xronia poy leme
If you see carefully the box, you will see 2 small bronze pins (from upper side). These pins are for frequency measuring


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Hi.
I will show a new dowsing rod.
This uses a simple signal generator with variable frequency from 3.5 to 70 Hz.
With this you can locate caves, gold, copper etc.
The schematic is very simple (only 2 IC's and one transistor) and you can construct it on the pcb that i will attach here or at a general purpose pcb.
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Happy New Year, kalh xronia poy leme
If you see carefully the box, you will see 2 small bronze pins (from upper side). These pins are for frequency measuring


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I think I put a Frequency Counter, from ebay : http://www.ebay.com/itm/9999Hz-LED-D...item35af3f9a6d
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I think I put a Frequency Counter, from ebay : http://www.ebay.com/itm/9999Hz-LED-D...item35af3f9a6d
If you construct it then you can put a counter at 555 output.
I don't need it because i marked the potentiometer knob
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If you construct it then you can put a counter at 555 output.
I don't need it because i marked the potentiometer knob
If you are relying on the 555 to stay on frequency then you are operating without exact frequencies.

The 555 use capacitors and a resitor to control the frequency. The capacitors change values slightly in different temperatures which results in frequency drift. You need to periodically check the frequency as the tuning will drift all over for the original setting. This is especially true in warmer weather. So if your electronic dowsing is dependent on an accurate stable frequency 555s are NOT the answer.

I have done hundreds of tests in the field and quit using 555s for and kind of stable frequency generator. I use a PIC microcontroller to generate frequencies and they are extremely stable.
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hi dear geo
Can the 4017 output of an amplifier more powerful than the metals used to Sense?
Can you design a circuit that will alarm when the metal was Sense?
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Hi Jack.
I can't understand your first question
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I can't understand your first question

Is it possible that the output IC for Better Sense of metals was further strengthened?(Using a more powerful signal booster?)
Can you design a circuit that will alarm when the metal was Sense?
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About your first question.... No reason for more power. When you will "learn" it you will understand me.
About second question.... i work on it with good results for begining, but i will not give it out.

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This looks very good GEO. Are you able to discriminate between copper and gold with it?

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This looks very good GEO. Are you able to discriminate between copper and gold with it?

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Yes (at a degree) if you play with the frequency potentiometer
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Master, Mr. Geo.
-The LED is doing what task.?
_Silver And copper What is the frequency?
Yours sincerely.
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Before i start: to the previous reply: the LED is just to say the unit is switched ON

I dont know if you read on this forum my comment under passive devices;

It's under passive stuff although it is electronic so i will change the thread to here (if you dont mind GEO)

My tread under passive read;

Thought this was an interesting science find.
I have an underground stream in the backyard, and just like a lot of other people, I can divine it with L RODS. I find this very simple to explain in that my body has a charge and the underground stream has a charge, like two plates of a charged capacitor. And the L rods point in the direction of the path of least resistance towards the charge of the stream in an attempt to break through the dielectric air and discharge. When I walk over the stream the rods swing and cross over each other because the path of least resistance is directly below me. Sounds like a very simple scientific explanation to me, it’s not rocket science just static charge!
But, as I was playing around with my divining rods I decided to try out a new type of divining wand. While thinking about what I was doing, I thought the two L rod method uses the charge of my body through to the rods to give direction, so why can’t I just use one rod. It works for Harry Potter! and he found millions.
So I thought of combining a spring into the design and went to the shed and after ½ hr I had a spring loaded wand/piece of wire thing. It was made of 3-4mm plain fencing wire, had a length/handle to fit into my hand then 15 turns on 20mm dia then straight out another 60 cm.
So I sat around 60 meters from the underground creek and just like L rods the spring wand gave nudges towards the path of least resistance to the creek. I then started counting “1 meter” “2 meters” “5 meters”, etc, and at 60 meters the end of the spring started bopping up and down.
As bizarre as this sounds the spring wand was accurate to the meter, the next question was why?
So I used a process of elimination. The creeks charge wasn’t changing. The air and soil that acted as a dielectric wasn’t changing. So the change in charge must be coming from me. The only thing that I could think of was the charge that causes the muscles in my heart to move. And guess what, the bopping of the wand at 60 meters was at the same rate as my heart beat. It’s my guess that the differences in charge between myself and the creek combined with a slightly more change caused by my heartbeat were producing a reflected static wave from the creek at the same rate as my heartbeat and causing the spring wand to bop up and down. If you think it’s crazy and bizarre TRY IT!
Regards to all.
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So i'm thinking of building: Two capacitive plates

If you take (from GEO's circuit) the 555 timer via a transistor (to charge it up) to a plate, and then from that plate take a coil type diving wand. It should if pulsed correctly, point or give nudges towards the path of least resistance in the local gravitational field/ path of least resistance.

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Before i start: to the previous reply: the LED is just to say the unit is switched ON

I dont know if you read on this forum my comment under passive devices;

It's under passive stuff although it is electronic so i will change the thread to here (if you dont mind GEO)

My tread under passive read;

Thought this was an interesting science find.
I have an underground stream in the backyard, and just like a lot of other people, I can divine it with L RODS. I find this very simple to explain in that my body has a charge and the underground stream has a charge, like two plates of a charged capacitor. And the L rods point in the direction of the path of least resistance towards the charge of the stream in an attempt to break through the dielectric air and discharge. When I walk over the stream the rods swing and cross over each other because the path of least resistance is directly below me. Sounds like a very simple scientific explanation to me, it’s not rocket science just static charge!
But, as I was playing around with my divining rods I decided to try out a new type of divining wand. While thinking about what I was doing, I thought the two L rod method uses the charge of my body through to the rods to give direction, so why can’t I just use one rod. It works for Harry Potter! and he found millions.
So I thought of combining a spring into the design and went to the shed and after ½ hr I had a spring loaded wand/piece of wire thing. It was made of 3-4mm plain fencing wire, had a length/handle to fit into my hand then 15 turns on 20mm dia then straight out another 60 cm.
So I sat around 60 meters from the underground creek and just like L rods the spring wand gave nudges towards the path of least resistance to the creek. I then started counting “1 meter” “2 meters” “5 meters”, etc, and at 60 meters the end of the spring started bopping up and down.
As bizarre as this sounds the spring wand was accurate to the meter, the next question was why?
So I used a process of elimination. The creeks charge wasn’t changing. The air and soil that acted as a dielectric wasn’t changing. So the change in charge must be coming from me. The only thing that I could think of was the charge that causes the muscles in my heart to move. And guess what, the bopping of the wand at 60 meters was at the same rate as my heart beat. It’s my guess that the differences in charge between myself and the creek combined with a slightly more change caused by my heartbeat were producing a reflected static wave from the creek at the same rate as my heartbeat and causing the spring wand to bop up and down. If you think it’s crazy and bizarre TRY IT!
Regards to all.
END

So i'm thinking of building: Two capacitive plates

If you take (from GEO's circuit) the 555 timer via a transistor (to charge it up) to a plate, and then from that plate take a coil type diving wand. It should if pulsed correctly, point or give nudges towards the path of least resistance in the local gravitational field/ path of least resistance.

regards to all
I saw that spring thing demoed by a dowser from long ago. Back in the 1950s or 1960s. Nice way to do dowsing. You might even find it on the net. This stuff never goes away.
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Master, Mr. Geo.
-The LED is doing what task.?
_Silver And copper What is the frequency?
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Led is only for turn-On state
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