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Geo 12-24-2011 09:13 PM

Dowsing Rod for 2012
 
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Hi.
I will show a new dowsing rod.
This uses a simple signal generator with variable frequency from 3.5 to 70 Hz.
With this you can locate caves, gold, copper etc.
The schematic is very simple (only 2 IC's and one transistor) and you can construct it on the pcb that i will attach here or at a general purpose pcb.
continued...
:):)

Geo 12-24-2011 09:28 PM

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The rod abuts at the handle through one bearing.
Onto the antenna a coil (L1) is wound with 280 turns. Wire diameter is 0.15mm.
:)

jack 12-24-2011 09:44 PM

Thanks Geo for this device
Please give the full details of the schematic and device performance.
Frequency for gold and copper, etc.
Merry Christmas Geo;)

Geo 12-24-2011 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack (Post 140935)
Thanks Geo for this device
Please give the full details of the schematic and device performance.
Frequency for gold and copper, etc.
Merry Christmas Geo;)

I will give all the details.
For the moment i try to finish the drawing of pcb...:)

jack 12-24-2011 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 140936)
I will give all the details.
For the moment i try to finish the drawing of pcb...:)

tank you geo
waiting for you :):)

J_Player 12-25-2011 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 140934)
The rod abuts at the handle through one bearing.
Onto the antenna a coil (L1) is wound with 280 turns. Wire diameter is 0.15mm.
:)

Hi Geo,
This is a very good project that you are posting.
You have shown some excellent photos.
I will watch to see more of your project.

Can you tell where you found the plastic box that you used for this locator?

Thank you for showing a good project for the new year. :)


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Geo 12-25-2011 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Player (Post 140939)
Hi Geo,
This is a very good project that you are posting.
You have shown some excellent photos.
I will watch to see more of your project.

Can you tell where you found the plastic box that you used for this locator?

Thank you for showing a good project for the new year. :)


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Box was the base of a wireless phone :lol::lol:.
The phone broke so i kept the plastic box....

Geo 12-25-2011 06:18 AM

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Here the schematic.
Next days i will try to open the box and to write the pats list

Regards

jack 12-25-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 140945)
Here the schematic.
Next days i will try to open the box and to write the pats list

Regards

I desire to see the details late last night and the complete schematic of this device, I was awake but did not succeed to see full details:lol::lol::lol:
Geo Please give the details about the schematic and parts list, and pcb and frequency performance metallic.

Geo 12-25-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack (Post 140946)
I desire to see the details late last night and the complete schematic of this device, I was awake but did not succeed to see full details:lol::lol::lol:
Geo Please give the details about the schematic and parts list, and pcb and frequency performance metallic.

It is a dowsing LRL.
So you must experiment with it and with the better frequences for you.
My friends who tried it, found it very good.

jack 12-25-2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 140947)
It is a dowsing LRL.
So you must experiment with it and with the better frequences for you.
My friends who tried it, found it very good.

tanks geo
ok.I'm testing different frequencies
If you put a new metal in the soil can be detected or only for old metal?
What metal reacts when a diagnosis?
Please give a list of components and circuit layout and advised how to use this device?

mesy64 12-25-2011 07:52 AM

Excellent Geo
Please give complete information about this device

Fred 12-25-2011 12:56 PM

Strange device Geo! I suppose ic1 is 555 and ic2 is 4017 ?

But, most important, what is it for, and how does it perfoms ? Because lately i found you splited personalities, and forget about your electronic engineer one . I suppose dowsing effects are pretty dangerous...
You know, making a pulse at some frequency, them dividing it doens´t make much sense to me...

:D

J_Player 12-25-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred (Post 140950)
Strange device Geo! I suppose ic1 is 555 and ic2 is 4017 ?

But, most important, what is it for, and how does it perfoms ? Because lately i found you splited personalities, and forget about your electronic engineer one . I suppose dowsing effects are pretty dangerous...
You know, making a pulse at some frequency, them dividing it doens´t make much sense to me...

:D

Hi Fred,
It appears the 4017 is serving only to insure the output remains at 10% duty cycle as you adjust for different frequencies with R6.
I suppose you could re-wire the 4017 with a CO jumper to change to any other duty cycle in 10% increments.
But from what I see in the circuit, it was probably found that 10% duty cycle was good.
I am guessing it was set at a constant 10% to prevent the duty cycle from changing from maybe 1% to 99% if you adjust R6 through a large range of frequencies.

Depending on the impedance of L1-C5, it appears this is probably a low power oscillator.
I am thinking the radiated power will change as the frequency is changed.
I wonder where the other parts in the box connect?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Geo 12-25-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred (Post 140950)
Strange device Geo! I suppose ic1 is 555 and ic2 is 4017 ?

But, most important, what is it for, and how does it perfoms ? Because lately i found you splited personalities, and forget about your electronic engineer one . I suppose dowsing effects are pretty dangerous...
You know, making a pulse at some frequency, them dividing it doens´t make much sense to me...

:D

Hi Fred.
It is a simple device, a dowsing rod with help of a generator.
I wanted a 10... 20 % duty cycle, so the 4017 was ok. Problem begun when i tried to make the generator to work at frequences from 3 to 70Hz. I had some problems with 555 at this range so i designed it to work from 28 to 680Hz and to divide by 10. Very simple and not strange. As J-P wrote IC's are 555 and 4017. Output from 4017 is going to a transistor for amplification and after it to antenna (Rod) via L1. If anyone know to work rods then this is a very good project. With this i can locate easy caves, gold, copper and Al.
I did not tried silver yet.

Regards:)

Geo 12-25-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Player (Post 140952)
Hi Fred,
It appears the 4017 is serving only to insure the output remains at 10% duty cycle as you adjust for different frequencies with R6.
I suppose you could re-wire the 4017 with a CO jumper to change to any other duty cycle in 10% increments.
But from what I see in the circuit, it was probably found that 10% duty cycle was good.
I am guessing it was set at a constant 10% to prevent the duty cycle from changing from maybe 1% to 99% if you adjust R6 through a large range of frequencies.

Depending on the impedance of L1-C5, it appears this is probably a low power oscillator.
I am thinking the radiated power will change as the frequency is changed.
I wonder where the other parts in the box connect?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Hi J_P.
Yes, it is a low power device
I did not measure the radiated power but i believe that it is not stable with the frequency.

Regards:)

Geo 12-25-2011 05:54 PM

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Here is the pcb....

jack 12-25-2011 06:13 PM

Thank you, Geo
Please give a list and description of parts and machine work. And how to build windings?
It can make clear to the radius and depth?
The metals in the soil under the Sense?
What is the reaction of the metal Sense?
The coil is wrapped around the telescoping antenna?
What is the size of the telescopic antenna?

teknoloji 12-25-2011 08:05 PM

Why do you waste of time to no avail.
LRL to do the project, why not a serious breakthrough.
Why not migrate to the review of the basic rules.
With this circuit can not detect anything.
in the cave with the empty bar and magnetic detection or water line breaks do not need to start .
a transmitter circuit. Where the recipient.?,
How do you understand how to turn back to 70Hz sent ok ...?
rod returned the left returned the right.? rod, the same reaction just do.
I think the discussion on real project

Regards

jack 12-25-2011 08:23 PM

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Thank you, Geo
Please give a list and description of parts and machine work. And how to build windings?
It can make clear to the radius and depth?
The metals in the soil under the Sense?
What is the reaction of the metal Sense?
The coil is wrapped around the telescoping antenna?
What is the size of the telescopic antenna?
I put in attachmentpcb in sprin layout ;);)

J_Player 12-25-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teknoloji (Post 140958)
Why do you waste of time to no avail.
LRL to do the project, why not a serious breakthrough.
Why not migrate to the review of the basic rules.
With this circuit can not detect anything.
in the cave with the empty bar and magnetic detection or water line breaks do not need to start .
a transmitter circuit. Where the recipient.?,
How do you understand how to turn back to 70Hz sent ok ...?
rod returned the left returned the right.? rod, the same reaction just do.
I think the discussion on real project

Regards

Hi teknoloji,
This circuit is not designed to be a detector.
It is designed only to produce an adjustable frequency from 3 to 70 Hz only.
It does not detect anything.

This was made for people who want to use dowsing to locate buried metals.
The designer of this circuit says he can locate gold, copper and aluminum if he dowses for the metals when this transmitter is turned on.

For me, I have never seen any success for dowsing when a transmitter is turned on or when a transmitter is not used.
So I do not use my time to build this transmitter.

Best wishes, :)
J_P

J_Player 12-25-2011 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 140955)
Hi J_P.
Yes, it is a low power device
I did not measure the radiated power but i believe that it is not stable with the frequency.

Regards:)

Hi Geo,

I am wondering what the brass and steel part on the outside of the box are for (see image below).
What is their purpose in this transmitter? Also, how are they connected in the circuit?

Other questions:
1. How is this transmitter used?
2. Does the transmitter connect to dowsing rods or to a ground probe?
3. Is the transmitter held in the hand, or is it placed at a distance from the dowser?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Geo 12-25-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teknoloji (Post 140958)
Why do you waste of time to no avail.
LRL to do the project, why not a serious breakthrough.
Why not migrate to the review of the basic rules.
With this circuit can not detect anything.
in the cave with the empty bar and magnetic detection or water line breaks do not need to start .
a transmitter circuit. Where the recipient.?,
How do you understand how to turn back to 70Hz sent ok ...?
rod returned the left returned the right.? rod, the same reaction just do.
I think the discussion on real project

Regards

This is a free project.
If you don't know to use a Lrod then let it.
Also if this is waste of your time then read something other project. This is not for you.

Regards

Geo 12-25-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack (Post 140957)
Thank you, Geo
Please give a list and description of parts and machine work. And how to build windings?
It can make clear to the radius and depth?
The metals in the soil under the Sense?
What is the reaction of the metal Sense?
The coil is wrapped around the telescoping antenna?
What is the size of the telescopic antenna?

About winding i wrote at begining.... you must wind 280turns onto the antenna as at photos. I put a paper onto antenna and after it i wound 280 turns on one layer with wire 0.15 mm diameter. That is all:).
Antenna is 80 cm long.

Regards

Geo 12-25-2011 09:39 PM

Part list from my schematic

R1=1K
R2=4k7
R3=10k
R4=10K
R5=1k2 ... 1k5
R6=100K potentiometer
C2=220nF
C3=12nF
C5=100uF/16V
D1=Led
Q1=BC547B
IC1= CD4017
IC2=LM555
G1=9v battery

:):)


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