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[ma330]

hi to all'
I have some questions about lrl.s
1 - you must have contact with hands or bars must be insulated?
2-connect the oscillator to find the metal rod can be effective?
3- Do not use as a probe, two probes have power?
4 - How to find the generator helps metals?
5 - What is the best waveform generator to build?
6-Is the frequency of different metals?
7-What is the best power for the generator?
8-Crossing frequency of the transformer in the output waveform does not change?
9-And is located in the following four white capsules. What does it do them?

[ma330]

please help me

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by ma330

hi to all'
I have some questions about lrl.s

1 - you must have contact with hands or bars must be insulated?
Doesn't matter. You'll get the same result whatever you do.

2-connect the oscillator to find the metal rod can be effective?
You could save a lot of money, wasted on batteries, by not switching it on.
It will work the same whether connected or not.

3- Do not use as a probe, two probes have power?
Try all the combinations. I bet the results are exactly the same.

4 - How to find the generator helps metals?
I don't understand the question.

5 - What is the best waveform generator to build?
It really makes no difference what frequency or waveform you use. In fact, you could save a lot of design effort by simply soldering some components from your scrap box together in a random fashion. That's what certain LRL manufacturers do on a daily basis.

6-Is the frequency of different metals?
If your asking which frequencies will resonant with different metals when used with the MFD device - the answer is "none of them".

7-What is the best power for the generator?
Probably zero. In other words, when it is switched off. That way you are only wasting time and not money.

8-Crossing frequency of the transformer in the output waveform does not change?
I've no idea what you're asking here.

9-And is located in the following four white capsules. What does it do them?
The capsules are similar to "witness chambers", and are supposed to contain a sample of the type of target you're searching for. Using some twisted logic, and no scientific basis whatsoever, the idea is that these samples will somehow resonate with the target. Go figure.

Answers in red above.

[Dell Winders]

ma30, you can ignore everything this guy says about MFD. (no name mentioned)

The inaccuracy of his replies proves he has no field experience and knows nothing about the subject of MFD, or LRL he pretends to have expertise in.

Of course, he does have the power to control this forum and delete anything, by anyone, he doesn't want posted on this forum.

Good luck in your quest for truthful answers. Dell

[ma330]

I could not get my questions answered
wm6 ..j-p and other freinds please answer me correctly
i need to ths informations

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

ma30, you can ignore everything this guy says about MFD. (no name mentioned)

Since a well known manufacturer of MFDs (no name mentioned) was either unable or unwilling to answer his questions, I felt duty bound to reply with some real facts. At least it will spare him the agony of reading a collection of pseudo-scientific claptrap.

Sorry if the truth hurts.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by ma330

I could not get my questions answered
wm6 ..j-p and other freinds please answer me correctly
i need to ths informations

Dear ma330

Qiaozhi is right.

You can waste your whole life on those false MFD theory only, without any results.

I cannot help you much this way.

Or with other word: I cannot calculate inductance of your body-dowsing-antenna and have no idea how to tune it on gold.

[Geo]

Hahahahaha......
You must say that you don't know.......
All MFD have some problems but they work.....
I found a lot of objects with them.

Regards

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Geo

All MFD have some problems but they work.....
I found a lot of objects with them.

Yes Geo, and despite that it works, you discard your MFD and now are still looking for something that would really work? How we can explain this phenomenon?

[Dell Winders]

ma330, I'm very sorry, but very few people with any field experience can post on this forum without being drowned in the nonsensical rhetoric spewed by the powers that be. If you want straight answers without the hassles, you might want to try an unbiased forum. Dell

http://www.treasureworks.com

[Dave J.]

Ma330, Dell is right, you should go check out the Treasureworks LRL forum. Dell and I disagree on some stuff but this we agree on.

You will discover there the same thing that you discovered here: that the purveyors of LRL's cannot give you any straight answers regarding the technology. It is the people they usually call "skeptics" that provide a straight answer, even though it may not be the answer you want.

There are frauds in the world. LRL's are an example of such. If you want to commit the fraud yourself, you can get a good education right here from both the purveyors of same and the "skeptics" on how to commit that fraud. If you want to avoid becoming the victim of same, right here you can "read the advertisement" and see that the "skeptics" and the purveyors of LRL's are telling you the same thing about the fraudulent nature of the apparatus, just from different perspectives.

One way to better understand what this forum is, is to go check out the other ones. If in the end you decide to stick with the Treasureworks forum, it'll likely be because you got what you wanted there, not what you needed.

--Dave J.

[humhum]

Originally Posted by ma330

hi to all'
I have some questions about lrl.s
1 - you must have contact with hands or bars must be insulated?
2-connect the oscillator to find the metal rod can be effective?
3- Do not use as a probe, two probes have power?
4 - How to find the generator helps metals?
5 - What is the best waveform generator to build?
6-Is the frequency of different metals?
7-What is the best power for the generator?
8-Crossing frequency of the transformer in the output waveform does not change?
9-And is located in the following four white capsules. What does it do them?

Dear ma330, Geo and Dell Winders is Right in this thema also and Dave J. , because I try test with my two probe Moleculer Freq. Discrimination and it works perfect , found gold bangle from 180 meter with special Gen freq. for gold.

Result is MFD works only with correct freq. and power gen.

Regards.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by ma330

I could not get my questions answered
wm6 ..j-p and other freinds please answer me correctly
i need to ths informations

Hi ma330,
You have already built the MFD correctly and you have used it in the correct manner.
Your experiments have already answered your questions.
The answers can be found here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...670#post142670

You can see that your MFD is really working to locate the treasure, but it is difficult to recover the treasure that you found.

Best wishes,
J_P

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by humhum

Dear ma330, Geo and Dell Winders is Right in this thema also and Dave J. , because I try test with my two probe Moleculer Freq. Discrimination and it works perfect , found gold bangle from 180 meter with special Gen freq. for gold.

Result is MFD works only with correct freq. and power gen.

Regards.

Hi humhum
Please more explain , how you can find correct frequency ??

[Geo]

Originally Posted by WM6

Yes Geo, and despite that it works, you discard your MFD and now are still looking for something that would really work? How we can explain this phenomenon?

I wrote it many times.
My problem with MFD is that at the same frequency with gold i locate and old rust iron

[Dell Winders]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi ma330,
You have already built the MFD correctly and you have used it in the correct manner.
Your experiments have already answered your questions.
The answers can be found here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...670#post142670

You can see that your MFD is really working to locate the treasure, but it is difficult to recover the treasure that you found.

Best wishes,
J_P

I followed your link and all I saw was another example of arrogant WIS ignorance. Dell

[ma330]

hi to all
tank you for reply
I've made ​​use of a generator of a probe.Works well and has high strength and range of about 110 volts.
The main reason for using the probe has a positive frequency is very high stability.

[Dave J.]

Originally Posted by ma330

hi to all
tank you for reply
I've made ​​use of a generator of a probe.Works well and has high strength and range of about 110 volts.
The main reason for using the probe has a positive frequency is very high stability.

Let me guess. 60 Hz (the Western Hemisphere copper and aluminum frequency), long range (spans the continent), and very high stability because controlled by atomic standard. Positive frequency: if negative, synchronous motor electric clocks would run backwards. Been working well for more than 100 years.

Invented by Nikola Tesla, which (according to Tesla cult dogma) makes it more powerful supernatural majick than any of Mineoro's silly stuff.

--Dave J.

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by aft_72005

Hi humhum
Please more explain , how you can find correct frequency ??

Without reply!!

[Dave J.]

aft, there is no "correct frequency" for LRL-MFD stuff. It's all fairy tales.

If it's gold you're interested in, I say that the gold frequencies are 13 kHz and 19.2 kHz, but Carl would probably say 14 kHz and 50 kHz. And oddly enough, I'd have to agree with him. Of course this pertains to electronic gold locating apparatus that actually works, not LRL's.

--Dave J.

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Dave J.

aft, there is no "correct frequency" for LRL-MFD stuff. It's all fairy tales.

If it's gold you're interested in, I say that the gold frequencies are 13 kHz and 19.2 kHz, but Carl would probably say 14 kHz and 50 kHz. And oddly enough, I'd have to agree with him. Of course this pertains to electronic gold locating apparatus that actually works, not LRL's.

--Dave J.

DaveJ. Thanks for your attention , I read carl MFD article , and know for gold was 5KHZ . but I hearing from you new frequency range!!!! .
Are you having successfully for gold with 13 kHz and 19.2 kHz?
If I remember correct , where of this forum LRLman said , frequency
Depended to geographical position .

[Geo]

For me the basic frequences for gold are two, 4813Hz and 7060Hz. Also i use the harmonics of 4813Hz with good results but lower distance.

[Dave J.]

Originally Posted by aft_72005

DaveJ. Thanks for your attention , I read carl MFD article , and know for gold was 5KHZ . but I hearing from you new frequency range!!!! .
Are you having successfully for gold with 13 kHz and 19.2 kHz?
If I remember correct , where of this forum LRLman said , frequency
Depended to geographical position .

Not LRL's, but metal detectors that actually work.
Teknetics T2 and Fisher F75: 13 kHz
Old (1980's) Fisher Gold Bug and also the new Gold Bugs and Tek G2: 19.2 kHz
White's Goldmasters and GMT: 50 kHz
White's MXT: 14 kHz

I designed all of the above except for the analog Goldmasters.

Since metal detectors aren't equipped with dowsing rods to confuse the operator, the customer can tell whether or not the thing will detect metal. If metal detectors didn't work, nobody would buy them.

LRL's with L-rods are designed so that the customer can't tell whether or not the thing works. And having paid so much, the customer really wants to believe it works even when it obviously doesn't! Jim Anderson's post on the H3Tec bulletin board offers an extraordinarily clear firsthand description of how people get took, all the evidence indicates they got took, but the next step of admitting that they got suckered and they aren't going to get their money back is too difficult for them to take.

Power line frequencies (copper and aluminum conductors) depend on geographical region. The Americas, 60 Hz. Most of the rest of the world, 50 Hz.

--Dave J.

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Geo

My problem with MFD is that at the same frequency with gold i locate and old rust iron

Geo, there is a valuable lesson here, when you are ready for that lesson.

[Dave J.]

Carl, you are so polite!

--Dave J.

On another note, I should point out that although I didn't design the analog Goldmasters, they were also very good machines. At one time I knew who designed them but I've forgotten, except that I'm pretty sure that John Earle did the GM4. Please correct me if I'm wrong.