Carl, got info on the Mineoro Detectors?

Carl and group,
I stumbled across this site and was wondering if anyones taken one apart? Claims to detect gold ions at a distance so I contacted the US Rep.and invited him to come up to the next Taft Club get together at the club claim (6 contiguous placer claims in the El Paso Mountains,CA.) and he excepted.

Randy Seden


Mineoro Ionic Detectors

This is another example of big box with nothing inside, made for US$10 and sold for US$3500.
I complain those naive guys who will buy these devices. Even if this will detect a coin at 300 meters, I wonder who will dig for it, or is this box delivered with a team of diggers?
Hear that, electrostatic electricity discovered in 1958 !! These guys never heard about Zamboni who made an electrostatic battery in 1815 !
Even if they sell only one of these boxes, they pay for the web site creation and hosting, plus a nice profit. Maybe there will be a lotto winner scammed into this !

No argument there revealer,but the question is has anyone taken one apart?

Interesting....but I belive it's another scam device.

I visited the web page and had a look at all finds claimed by their devices.
Amazing... all the guys who claim to found treasure have either a Hotmail or Yahoo email address....smile...just for the case someone (a potential buyer) needs a confirmation on the finds....

Tonga

Seek the messages about Mineoro here:

http://www.lonestartreasure.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_files/webbbs_config.pl

Esteban,

Interesting. I emailed the poster and am waiting for a reply. The US Rep.lives here in the Los Angeles Area and I have contacted him regtarding a demonstration of the unit at my Placer Gold Claim in the N.W. Mojave Desert.
Hey, if I'm able to pull out 2 nuggets in a row from my claim with his product, I wouldn't care what was inside the box!

Speaking of Ion Detectors and Telluric Currents, there is a circuit called the "Scaler Electrostatic Gradiometer" by Bob Shannon that would be fun to build to observe Telluric and electostatic fields at the Alluvial Gold bearing soil where I mine. Thanks again and I appreciate the fact that you use your real name instead of hiding behind a phoney one.

Randy Seden

I got into an email conversation with Mineoro quite some time ago, and came away with the impression that they have no real technical understanding of what they are claiming to do. As I recall, they were also investigating the transmission of VLF to "resonate" distant targets, á la LRL nonsense, though I don't know whether any of their current crop of miracle devices use this "technology".

Love to hear how the demo goes, let us know!

- Carl

Marc, I have said many times before. Will some one tell me, why someone
would sell a locator, at any price, that really finds gold? This doesn't
logically make any sense to me? If this were true wouldn't all of the
charities be investing in this equipment?

If I had invented such an device, I would be digging in the Philippines
right now for billions in unclaimed Japanese world war two 50 ton and 100
ton loads just sitting there waiting to be recovered. Why would I waste my
time dealing with the ignorance of the buying public selling these units
that would find the valuable commodity that I wouldn't take the time to dig
up? Could it be that they don't want to break existing antiquity laws and
end up in jail? What is the truth here?

Does this make any sense to you Marc or any one else? Could this equipment
possibly be boggus and this is all a con?

Marc, I think you answered this already without strong ajectives.
Richard
Patricia´s answer
GUYS, ALL THAT RETORICA IS VERY GOOD, BUT MINEORO DETECTORS DO WORK. I HAVE
SEEN THEM. YOU CAN BELIEVE IT OR NOT BUT THEY WORK. THEIR INVENTORS ARE
REALLY TREASURE HUNTERS BUT THEY HAPPEN TO BE SCIENTISTS TOO WHO LOVE TO
SPEND HOURS ON END AT THE LAB INVESTIGATING PHENOMENA, IMPROVING THEIR
INVENTION. BESIDES, TREASURE HUNTING IS FUN, BUT ONCE YOU FIND SOMETHING IT
IS NOT ALWAYS EASY AND CHEAP TO DIG IT OUT.
THIS IS THE CASE OF THESE TWO SCIENTISTS. THEY HAVE FOUND STH AND THEY WILL
UNDIG IT WHEN THEY COULD GATHERED THE MONEY TO DO IT. MEANWHILE THEY HAVE
FOUND LOTS OF OBJECTS AND JEWELS ALONG THE YEARS , SPORTY! DON´T YOU
THINK.
YOU WILL NEED MONEY TO GO TO PHILIPINES, TO TAKE A PROFESSIONAL TEAM WITH
YOU AND ALL THE PARAPHERNALIA NEEDED TO TAKE OUT YOUR TREASURE.COME TO THINK
OF IT?

WHILE THERE IS ACTION SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU GUYS CAN GO ON DOUBTING AND
TALKING, AND COMPLAINING...THAT IS WHAT MOST LOSERS DO!
WHY SELL SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE INVENTED AND WORKS.? ..BECAUSE YOU ARE
PROUD OF IT, BECAUSE IT IS GOOD, AND IF YOU HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT, YOU WILL
SURE HAVE A GOOD BUSINESS...THAT IS WHY MINEORO DETECTORS ARE BEST SELLERS.
THE TRUTH IS PEOPLE WHO FOUND BIG CACHES WONT USUALLY SHARE THEIR GOOD
NEWS...WHY DO YOU THINK?? USE YOUR RETORIC TO SOLVE THAT....
SORRY, I GOT CARRIED AWAY...HAVE A NICE DAY.

[Noble Metal]

I will say one thing for sure; and in probably 99.9% of the people: And thats is, If I found something bigger and valuable, I would not be talking about it either.

[goldfinder]

In research I have done, the Minero electrostatic detector is based on the fact that there is ionic activity over metals that have been in the ground for a long period. Now whether their device will detect that ionic activity is another story. A simple extremely sensitive electrostactic detector can be built for less than $20 including battery, IC (jfet), and a few other parts and case.

I am in the process of testing a unit as we speak.

[Noble Metal]

Goldfinder and others, the problem with the Philippines, and other places of the sort, are endless; but one of the problems is that of course some places such as the above are only islands where there was a serious war, and so you have very large, and at times mony tons of just rusting iron metal, bombs, and rusting jeeps in the ground: Now, Iron is say 450 ohms, and gold is very very near that at 250 ohms; and so just be aware and let us all know what you think as to something detecting ions; is it possible that whatever unit would also totally be attracted to masive; or small, but rusting iron metal in the ground? And to please let us know what you find and think, and Thank you, Noble Metal.
(PS, my name is not Phoney:o)

good day sir,how is your testing with the mineoro M.D?

Testing has been interesting. The ion detector did appear to locate some placer in a stream bed. Further tests are underway.
Goldfinder

I hope you could share with us your testing results,from what i know
mineoro has come up with 3 new models of there M.D(by ion of course)
the GDD-318,GDM-428 and GDP-538?

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I hope you could share with us your testing results,from what i know
mineoro has come up with 3 new models of there M.D(by ion of course)
the GDD-318,GDM-428 and GDP-538?

Where have you seen these models? On their web site, they show 3 new models, the IGD2005, VI99, and DIAS2005, see http://www.mineoro.com/dig2005.htm. They are very obviously dowsing rod crap. The "Center & Deep" is also a dowsing rod.

Last year I borrowed a PDC205, did some tests with it, and took it apart to trace out the circuitry. It cannot detect gold. It has all the appearances of being a fraud.

- Carl

HI Carl

I got this from one of there U.S Dealer thru email with the
price for the new models GDD-318 @6,250usd ,GDM-428@
7,580usd and GDP-538@9,995uusd.from what i know on there
old model it can only find gold if its buried for more than
50yrs?but from this new model it could find gold for sure???
but i will choose goldfinder made unit that would cost me
only 20$ and battery already included........

HI Carl

I got this from one of there U.S Dealer thru email with the
price for the new models GDD-318 _6,250usd ,GDM-428_
7,580usd and GDP-538_9,995uusd.from what i know on there
old model it can only find gold if its buried for more than
50yrs?but from this new model it could find gold for sure???
but i will choose goldfinder made unit that would cost me
only 20$ and battery already included........

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

from what i know on there old model it can only find gold if its buried for more than 50yrs?

That's called an "alibi" for a gold detector that cannot detect gold. Gold buried for 50 years, is no different than gold buried for 50 minutes.

- Carl

Hi!! Im rico looking a delear of gold detector and locator because I have an old map from my great great grand parents with contents gold and diamond buried in our place but we can't find it.

hepl please

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Rico

Hi!! Im rico looking a delear of gold detector and locator because I have an old map from my great great grand parents with contents gold and diamond buried in our place but we can't find it.

Get a good metal detector, be thorough.

[Largesarge]

Folks:

If I had invented a device that could detect gold and such at great distances with sure fire accuracy, do think I would be living in 3 bdrm house in a small coastal town in Oregon. Not likely, I'd be at head of a mega mining conglomerate sucking up all the undiscovered precious metals in the world.

All these people are doing is mining the miners and fools of the world.

Dennis

[Carl-NC]

Have you been to Bob's house?

[Largesarge]

Nope, don't know him.

[Siliquae_Sid]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Testing has been interesting. The ion detector did appear to locate some placer in a stream bed. Further tests are underway.
Goldfinder

Unregistered EH? Sounds like Mineoro trying to prove that these things work....ROFLMAO

[goldfinder]

I was just reporting what I found with the ion detector that I built regarding the placers finds. Since the ion detector was relatively easy to put together I figured why not check it out. I had never heard of Minero until a prospector/THer alerted me to the web site.

However, further tests have proven negative for locating anything in the mineral realm. I found that if there is any schrubbery, trees, etc. then the ion detector is so influenced by the ion field around them that if there is any effect from minerals the ion field around the plant growth it is non-detectable.

Conclusion - the Minero probably doesn't work as advertised unless their system operates differently than their theoretical explaination.

By the way - don't be so quick to judge others. There are a lot of legitimate researchers who have discovered many things outside the currently accepted orthodox view of the universe.

Todays metaphysics (beyond Physics) is tomorrow's physics.

Goldfinder