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11-01-2017, 02:17 PM
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MINEORO DCH85M
      Alonso launched to the market, in the year 1985, the first long range gold and silver locator in the world. DCH85M, is capable of locating a gold medal of around 14×20 mm, or just at a distance of 35 m after long years being earthed. This device has a metal-classifying switch dor discrimination and 3 different samples in coil, gold, silver and cooper. Changing its position you can locate gold or silver or copper, buried in any area, much at longer distance under water. DCH85M detects only the ionic field of treasure objects buried for more than 30 years. Recently buried objects do not have a strong enough field to be detected by it. For big roamn treasures or spanish gold it is excellent model but you need to learn how to adjust him. Dub 
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11-01-2017, 03:44 PM
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 EXPLANATIONS ABOUT LONG RANGE DIRECTIONAL DETECTION It is necessary to clarify, in the first place, that understanding a "new invention" starting with the knowledge we have about ions, electromagnetism, magnetic fields, electric fields, EMI, dynamic electricity, static electricity, radio waves, LW, MW, SW, VHF, UHF and others, without advancing many grades forward these phenomena, already known by Science, is very difficult , not to say impossible. We should also note that these "new phenomena" cannot be measured as there aren´t, yet, measuring instruments sensitive enough. DEFINITIONS: 1 - Dynamic Electricity: 2 - Static Electricity (Electrostatic) 3 - Creation of Ionic Fields: 4 - Magnetic Fields 5 - Measurements: 6 - What are Ions: 7 - Why are Ions free everywhere? 8 - An observation of what exists and a "discovery" . New invention. 9 - An attentive observation and "one more discovery": 10 -Ionic Chamber 11 -Center & Deep 1 - Dynamic Electricity or according to me Positive or Evil Electricity : It is the energy generated by electric generators and transmitted by metal conductors, wires. This energy is produced as alternate tension , (ac) or continuous (cc) . This is also extracted from continuous current batteries. There is also exist Negative or Good Electricity or COLD CURRENT made by Nikola Tesla in Colorado Springs and NY. 2 - Static Electricity (Electrostatic) It is the electricity produced by insulators or bad conductors. Simply it is imbalance between 2 sorts of charges. Ammount of one sort biger than other. Static Electricity is generated by friction of substances between them. Solid, Liquid, Gaseous or Plasmatic. This definition was first enunciated by the german scientist Loeb (references quoted), in 1958. 3 - Creation of Ionic Fields: 3.1 - Generated by continuous high tension positive or negative by sharp point. Normally around 800 to 900 volts. Other tensions are feasible. 3.2- Ionic field by chemical flow in galvanization processes. 3.3 - Other ionic fields generators for different purposes, so-called ionizators. 4 - Magnetic Fields They are fields created by permanent alnico magnets, strange earth magnets, etc, the magnetic field of the Earth, generated by the central core or the Planet that has a field of aproximately 0,5 gauss at the polar ice-caps and 0,3 gaus at the Equator line. Approximate data. Other magnetic fields can be created in radio coils generated by electromagnetic Hertz waves. They create microfields, that eventhough their low intensity are measurable in oscilloscopes, microvoltimeters and other electronic instruments , and amplified by electronic circuits for various uses. 5 - Measurements: In this item I would like to approach briefly the measurement of phenomena. The data referred here are not submitted in exact percentage. They are just data for reflection and understanding of the "new phenomena" detected by the inventors. 5.1- In measurements of dynamic electricity I will just refer to tensions under 1 volt. 5.2- In measurement of static electricity of 0 (zero) to 20.000 volts or more. 5.3- In measurement of ionic fields in Å - anstrons, nano, pico femto and atto volts. 6 - What are Ions: The scientific concept of Ions is already of public domain and well-informed in scientific books and news worldwide. Ions are atoms. Modified atoms. One ion is called "positive ion" when it loses one or more electron(s). It is called a "negative ion" when an electron or more is increased to it. In that area of activity we are visiting a region of "nano" or below nano movements. That is to say: Ångstrem= 10-8; nano= 10-9; femto=10-15 and atto= 10-18. 7 - Why are Ions free everywhere? It is because the matter - all and any substance - loses atomic weight, it loses atoms liberated from matter in form of negative "ions" and positive "ions". These ions are everywhere in the Universe. In our solar system, in the atmospheric space and cosmic space, in Earth as a whole. In the ground, underground and in the center of the Planet. Therefore, everywhere we have ionic fields spreading in all directions. Our physical body is losing atomic weight during 24 hours. Our clothes, our hair, our shoes, our houses, furniture, food, and fresh water, salty water, all and any liquid, or gas, everything in any state of matter loses atomic weight in form of ions. The loss is proportional to the size of the object, the bigger the object, more "ionic" volume lost. All the elements of Earth also are in form of atoms. All the mines, all the minerals. The plants, the bushes, the big trees, the flowers, all I can name, being a substance, is giving away ions through loss of atomic weight. Summary of Item 7 ( First item of LRDD system) The "matter" - substance - necessary for Long Distance detection exists in our ASTRA SOLAR in cenetr of earth 6300 km above our heads and also beyond our planet in other spheres. We will see, then, how can we manipulate these information and use the ions of each substance. (*) [CENTER]8 - An observation of what exists and a "discovery" . New invention. How does a short-circuit occur? When we connect a positive wire to another negative without any charge, a short circuit occurs. Independently of the existent tension. Could be microvolts, nanovolts or below, or higher tensions. This short- circuit produces a characteristic noise like a "CRASH" (breakdown), noise that can be heard from a few centimeters to a hundred of meters, depending on the voltage provoking the short-circuit. Followed by a glaring radiance proportionate to the short -circuit. The discovery: During laboratory and field studies , we discovered that between a negative ion and a positive ion the same phenomenom occurs. A short-circuit occurs and a proportional CRASH. In the microvolts, nanovolts region or below. The short-circuit and the CRASH are not measurable or audible. So if we could hear that CRASH or detect that short-circuit in an electronic system of super high sensitivity we will have a response of the phenomenom. The idea behind the Substance Classifier As the package of ions spread in all directions, of all substances was too big and compact, it was difficult to separate just an "ion" or various "ions" of the same substance. So we come out with the idea of inventing a "Substance Classifier" , that is to say, a device which has the ability to "filter" just the "ion" or "ions" we needed to produce the phenomenom of "micro crash", "nano crash"or below. After years of researching and field experiences , it was born. It was invented not just as a classifier - "filter", but as a generator of positive "ions", receiver of negative "ions" in order to the short-circuit occur , and generator of electrostatic. Through electrostatic , the "ions" walk long distances , as if along an "invisible wire". (*) An ion is any atom or group of atoms that bears one or more positive or negative electrical charges. Positively charged ions are called cations, negatively charged ions, anions. Ions are formed by the addition of electrons to, or the removal of electrons from neutral atoms or molecules or other ions; by combination of ions with other particles; or by rupture of a covalent bond between two atoms in such a way that both of the electrons of the bond are left in association with one of the formerly bonded atoms. Examples of these processes include the reaction of a sodium atom with a chlorine atom to form a sodium cation and a chloride anion; the addition of a hydrogen cation to an ammonia molecule to form an ammonium cation; and the dissociation of a water molecule to form a hydrogen cation and a hydroxide anion. Many crystalline substances are composed of ions held in regular geometric patterns by the attraction of the oppositely charged particles for each other. Ions migrate under the influence of an electrical field and are the conductors of electric current in electrolytic cells. Electrostatic, when moving , is like a radio frequency wave which has the property of "carrying" various signals, such as: audio, digital information, video signals, color signals and many others. Electrostatics is like a transportation firm. As FEDEX; UPS and DHL. It carries from South to North all the "ionization" which is free. Watch in the site under IONIC FIELD mineoro.com. Also, a discovery of the inventors Damásio and Alonso. The insulators above mentioned are all the non-conductive substances. In the detection system - LRDD - the most important insulator, from the point of view of the phenomenom, is the Atmospheric Air. The most electrostatically positive it is, the farther it will carry the negative "ions". After the rain, when the atmosphere is negatively charged, the distance of detection is less. Before the rain, some days before, the atmosphere is positively charged and the detection occurs much farther. This is scientifically proved. It is when there is atmospheric discharge - lighting . There are different types of electrostatics: a - Electrostatics coming from Orion Constellation, discovered by USA scientists in 2003. b - Electrostatics produced by the Earth rotation in the atmospheric space. c - Electrostatics produced by the central core of the Earth, which travels 12 miles more than the external part of the Planet along the period of an year. d - Electrostatics produced by parked engines(switched on) or in movement, by ships, planes, cars and a lot more. f - I, here, typing this message in the computer, in a dry day and moving my chair on a vynil carpet, generate more than 35.000 volts of electrostatics. g - Any movement we make or which is made produces electrostatics. Our breathing; the movement of our hands; walking, every step, depending on the day and the relative humidity of the air can produce up to 20.000 volts electrostatic or more. And it is very good for our health. We are surrounded by electrostatics during all our lifespan even when we are not aware. Standing up; sitting down; lying in bed; in the bathroom; practising any sport; even in the most sedentary positions we are producing electrostatics. Therefore, all things that surround us, nearby or farther away, produce in some way, electrostatics. It is just this phenomenom ,one of the strongest interagents in Long Range Detection with Substance Classifier. 9 - An attentive observation and "one more discovery": Carefully analizing all the previous information about electrostatics, we infer that, all movement, according to Loeb, creates electrostatics. 'Static electrification covers all processes for producing segregation of positive and negative electrical charges by mechanical actions which operate by contact or impact between solid surfaces, between solid and liquid surfaces, or in the ruptpre or separation of solid or liquid surfaces by gases or otherwise, including also ionized gases. These involve such processes as frictional, contact, or triboelectrification, spray electrification and electrification in dust, snow or in thunderstorms" Leonard B. Loeb, Static Electrification, Springer-Verlag, Berlin-Gottingen-Heidlberg, 1958. So "ions" in movement, just them, would generate electrostatics. It was discovered one more issue that would explain the LRDD. Although in an infinitely small phenomenom, micro, nano , pico, femto or atto phenomenom, the electrostatic phenomenom occurs as well. It is a electrostatics with the characteristic of the substance created by it. It is the same with a person´s DNA. The negative "ion", in our case, gold "ion" brings its DNA, that is the energy which will tranport it. The "ion" itself generates that transporting energy. This explains the substance classifier. When the negative "ion" finds its twin of opposite polarity, they love each other so intensively, that when they get together they provoke a short-circuit autodestroying themselves. As in the Romeo and Juliet movie, both of them die, but the proof of their death is a flask of poison near them; in the same way, our "passionate ions" also leave a proof of their death in "emiting a crash", which generates an electrical signal so fast as nano, pico, femto or atto seconds , detectable in sensitive electronic circuits and projected for this aim. The classifier just filters the negative 'ions", twin pairs of positivie "ions" produced by the classifier. To this phenomenom, Alonso (60) and Damásio (70) gave the name of "Substance Classifier" or just "Classifier". This denomination was necessary to differentiate from the expression "discrimination",commonly used in other systems of detection by electromagnetic waves. About the "classifier" it is good to inform that it is possible to manufacture classifiers for other metal and non-metal substances. It is possible to classify blood in its kinds; plants and its kinds; drugs and its kinds, etc. at long distance. That is why we announced in the media that we are talking about " A MODERN INVENTION". 10 - Ionic Chamber The ionic/electrostatic chamber consists of the external "antenna" in the form of a black tube, plus an elliptical sensor inserted in the plate of the boardcircuit. This sensor in elliptical shape represents an ionic/electrostatic field reflector, similar to the reflectors used in the antique tv aerials, which had deflectors and reflectors to better concentrate the signal received from VHF. The idea of that ionic/electrostatic reflector was originated in those reflectors. This sensor reflects and concentrates like a lens part of the energy that escapes and it is not detected by the "antenna" inside the black tube. This ionic/electrostatic energy is reutilized by the "antenna" increasing the detection capacity of the detector and turning the detection more directional As the detection through electrostatics has the property of polarizing the substrate, an electrical time constant was placed for this depolarization, keeping the sensor neutral to reflect the "ionic/electrostatic" fields. It is good to clarify that electrostatics reflects, concentrates, disperses, and is carried by metals, conductive wires, etc. The same as dynamic electricity. When the Directional Detector is moved into a horizontal or vertical position an static electricity is produced, electrostatics, according to Loeb, necessary in the ionic chamber for the use of positive "ions" which would meet the negative "ions" producing the phenomenom of Long Range Directional Detection with Substance Classifier, as it was explained before. The existent electronic circuits are just amplifiers of the "nano" signal supplied at the moment of the detection. The bigger sensor that surrounds the perimeter of the boardcircuit, is a sensor which reinforces the creation of the electrostatic field when moving the detector to locate any target. 11 - Center & Deep As it was explained, ionization is the process of lossing atomic weight and generation of electrostatics by movement, friction, etc, according to the german scientist Loeb. When moving the Center & Deep, it generates an ionic/electrostatic field, first by the movement, then by the substance generator of ions inside the Center & Deep chamber. The movement generates a "crash" as explained before. This phenomenom just occurs when you have already found a target and there is an existent field around the buried object. For this phenomenom to occur it is not necessary to supply any tension to the Center and Deep. It uses part of the energy which is in the located field. The explanations detailed here are not exhaustive to the issue of LRDD, however I think they are enough for the time being to understand the basis of this new invention. ps. Simply said ions are according to Victor Alonso and J.P.F.DAMASIO charges. Two kind of charges, literaly positive and negative. They are simple substances with own properties like 2 sides od golden coin.  DUB
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11-04-2017, 12:23 AM
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Thank you LRL-man GEO for your reply. i have readed many important info from your posts. thank you again. And i have seen your and Esteban videos with LRL finding gold nuggets with DCH85. PLEASE TELL ME WHICH MOD I NEED IMPLEMENT TO ACHIVE DISCRIMINATION GOLD. SILVER, COOPER AND LONG DISTANCE WITH MINEORO MODEL DCH85 OR DCH85M. Thanks in advance. If you coudn't tell in public my personal email is BOEM987@GMAIL.COM PS: LETS MAKE THIS LRL DETECTING A GOLD. I HAVA TEST POLYGON WITH GOLD, SILVER AND GOOD SIGNALS WITH FRANCOLRL QUARTZ-PLL. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. DUBULUMACH SERBIA - BANANA REPUBLIC. BOEM987@GMAIL.COM
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11-04-2017, 12:36 AM
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SORRY I WAS FORGOT TO ASK WHICH LRL PROJECT FROM THIS LRL FORUM WORK AND WHICH WORTH TO MAKE. TO INVEST MY TIME AND SKILL TO MAKE FOR ME PROJECT LRL ?
I AM POOR EENGINEER AND NEED MUCH ROMAN GOLD FOR NORMAL LIFE IN BANANA REPUBLIC OF SERBIA. THAT IS TRUTH. YOU CAN VISIT ME IF YOU WISH. AND MAKE JOINT GOLD SEARCH. AND BIGEST QUESTION HOW TO TUNE AND ADJUST THAT LRL PROJECT. IF ICONOS IS CLONE OF MINEORODCH85 WHICH ONE PROJECT EXCEPT FRANCOITALY LRL - MUST BE MINEORO YOU THINK IS EXCELLENT TO MAKE AND BE HAPPY IN GOLD, SILVER PROSPECTING ROMAN TREASURES IN SERBIA AND BULGARIA ? THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HELPING GOOD GEO. BEST WISHES AND REGARDS DUBULUMACH BOEM987@GAMIL.COM PS. I HAVE NO 10 000 EUROS MONEY FOR ANDREAS LRL AND NEED WORKING AND VALID PROJECT  Technical dataMain case dimensions 160mm X 110mm X 60mm Diametre coil housing 100mm Weight with batteries 550gr Battery supply - Two Batteries 9 volts provide up to 10 hours use. You can use Ni-Cd or Lithium batteries at the same size Depth detection - 11 meters maximum depth Range detection - Maximum range overcome the 50 meters distance if the user don’t carry mobile phones or gold jewellery Material box special OSB wood 3mm with ULTEM 1010 special plastic. Don’t use metal connections surfaces Frequency working double 145KHZ , 67KHZ with double modulation signal Detection only Gold or only Silver in ordering Method detection: ARS Analysis reflector signal http://crypton.com.gr/?page_id=7530
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11-04-2017, 08:24 PM
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From what i saw it is not possible to discriminate between gold, silver and coper with a DCH85. The only way to do it is with radioactive radiaton samples but is is another dificult chapter. With my Mineoro i found every noble metal.
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11-04-2017, 08:28 PM
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Maybe the best is a workable PDK by Morgan. If you search the forum will find info how to construct it Regards
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11-04-2017, 11:18 PM
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Modified LRL or original from your friends Viktor Alosno J.P. Damasio. ?
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11-04-2017, 11:28 PM
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I AM READING A FORUM VERY WELL. His PDK is not the same PDK shown on forum (very probably with intentional errors). He told that many times, that his PDK was modified with someone who knows how. Maybe you GEO?. I havent seen any lrl-man with complete electronic laboratory like you have. It is not usual thing for poor LRL-man. Also Morgan had told Andreas Christy not to publish schematic of his modified PDK which Andreas had repeared in Athens several years ago. Problem is simple, MORGAN keep his mouth shut and doesn't answers on any questions and asks ? Maybe to you yes, but not for me and many other people. In meantime he dig a lot of gold in any country which he has visited. Answer is as always #EASY MONEY#. because. MONEY KISS WHAT NOBODY WANT. Best Regards Dubulumach Banana republic Serbia Boem987@gmail.com
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11-06-2017, 03:20 PM
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Dubulumach, there is an easy way to learn all those that you want.
You must drive 500km and to visit me. I can give you some secrets and tell you more about lrls and companies. The choise is yours Regards
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11-06-2017, 05:25 PM
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11-06-2017, 07:26 PM
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But don't worry, he is not dead. He only spend your (and other LRL enthusiast) money at Palma de Mallorca. Even his LRL is temporary dead only, look how well is he with LRT (long range tobogganing): 
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11-12-2017, 03:46 PM
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I know we will cooperate good. If you are visiting Serbia feel free to visit me in my town. We need to make a GOOD FRIENDLY TALK in my town or in yours. Place is not important but the FRIENDLY TALK is important. I HAVE A VERY VERY GOOD OFFER FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND I THINK THE WINTER IS THE RIGHT TIME TO MAKE GREAT JOBS TOGETHER. so if you are driving south Serbia soon or in next couple month feel free to contact me to make great LRL gathering privately. I HAVE VERY VERY INTERESTING OFFER YOU NEED TO HERE BEFORE ACCEPT OR REFUSE. THE CHOICE IS YOURS. Best wishes to you and your team and good luck. ps; Send me your private e-mail. REG. DUBULUMACH BOEM987@gmail.com
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11-14-2017, 10:44 PM
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Soon I will answer you to visit you in Greece. Best wishes Dubulumach
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02-15-2018, 01:12 PM
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Hello everyone!
Which integrated ones are used in the Dch85m and dch85? Thanks for the info.
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, and if he stay here to pay the hotel.
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