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Old 12-19-2011, 08:21 PM
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Hello friends,
I am interesting to build the gold gun al707,
If any of you, can help me with the schematic, or any other informations
about it i will appreciate,
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:53 PM
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Hello friends,
I am interesting to build the gold gun al707,
If any of you, can help me with the schematic, or any other informations
about it i will appreciate,
Thank you.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:04 AM
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Thank you for your answer,
I have see again this schematic
It is similar with the al718, but there are some
Different value capacitors .
What model is this?
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:35 AM
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Thank you for your answer,
I have see again this schematic
It is similar with the al718, but there are some
Different value capacitors .
What model is this?
Model is AL718.

Capacitor in thank circuit depends on VLF signal transmitter frequency in your region.
In schematic given capacitor can be of little use if there are not radio signal inside tank circuit resonate frequency.

But even there are not VLF radio signal, you can build weak, simple and cheap transmitter tuned at AL718 frequency and put it in field of your search ten meters away.

You need to tune your AL718 ferrite antenna at the best directivity by changing ferrite rods mutual distance and coils position. You need transmitter for such tuning placed of about 50 meters away (good one is battery powered signal generator with two wires - one inserted in earth and other as antenna up in air).

For some additional idea about transmitter you can look here:

http://franitzasab.webs.com/transmit...kitreviews.htm
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:19 PM
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I visit the page you recommend,
There are very interesting transmitter kits,
Which one you thing is the best solution
To work us a pair with a gold gun ?
I think also that I have to change the coil capacitors
With big value trimming capacitors for the tunning
Of the ferrite antenna.
Also if somebody have a good schematic for
a transmitter we can try to build one,
Thank s a lot.
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:08 PM
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Model is AL718.

Capacitor in thank circuit depends on VLF signal transmitter frequency in your region.
In schematic given capacitor can be of little use if there are not radio signal inside tank circuit resonate frequency.

But even there are not VLF radio signal, you can build weak, simple and cheap transmitter tuned at AL718 frequency and put it in field of your search ten meters away.

You need to tune your AL718 ferrite antenna at the best directivity by changing ferrite rods mutual distance and coils position. You need transmitter for such tuning placed of about 50 meters away (good one is battery powered signal generator with two wires - one inserted in earth and other as antenna up in air).

For some additional idea about transmitter you can look here:

http://franitzasab.webs.com/transmit...kitreviews.htm
hi wm6
Please put a transmitter that is above.I have not found such a transmitter on the Internet.Please put the transmitter.??
Put in attachments pcb gg817 in sprin layout enjoy
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:05 PM
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hi mesy64 and other freinds
this is a transmitter vlf with coil anttena .How to change the antenna coil to the telescopic antenna.???
You can use the transmitter for the Said wm6 ???
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:24 PM
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tank you jack
please insert Complete schematic
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:01 PM
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How to change the antenna coil to the telescopic antenna.???
In two ways (not to mention that L1 alone works as antenna too: to bigger diameter - to better signal):

1. You can build L1 as ferrite rod antenna with same inductance (regarding to desired TX frequency) for better antenna directivity.

2. You can build vertical (or telescopic) antenna by help of LF ferrite toroid transform with his primary windings tuned to desired TX frequency.
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In two ways:

1. You can build L1 as ferrite rod antenna with same inductance (regarding to desired TX frequency).

2. You can build vertical (or telescopic) antenna by help of LF ferrite toroid transform with his primary windings tuned to desired TX frequency.
Hi WM6,
I can see you are giving very advanced secrets to locating gold from long distances.
The engineering is amazing... Such an elegant solution to locating the elusive treasure signal.
Who would have thought of using a toroid ferrite?
Maybe this is better than Dr. Best, because easy to build.
I will watch with interest to see how much treasure mesy64 and Jack recover with this advanced breakthrough design.


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Old 12-20-2011, 11:22 PM
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Hi WM6,
I can see you are giving very advanced secrets to locating gold from long distances.
The engineering is amazing... Such an elegant solution to locating the elusive treasure signal.
Who would have thought of using a toroid ferrite?
Maybe this is better than Dr. Best, because easy to build.
I will watch with interest to see how much treasure mesy64 and Jack recover with this advanced breakthrough design.


Best wishes,
J_P
Hi J_P ,
don't forget that dowsers are capable to make miracles (especially equipped with proper MD).
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Hi J_P ,
don't forget that dowsers are capable to make miracles (especially equipped with proper MD).
Yes...
A miracle can make any circuit work...


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Old 12-21-2011, 04:54 AM
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tank you wm6
If one end of a telescopic antenna is no longer with the same frequency is sent to Earth to be what?
How is this possible?And better performance for gold gun ?
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tank you wm6
If one end of a telescopic antenna is no longer with the same frequency is sent to Earth to be what?
How is this possible?And better performance for gold gun ?
Hi Jack,

despite your English is very atractive, I do not understand what you ask. Sorry.
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ionios, are you from zakynthos?
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:16 AM
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Yes, I am.
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:23 AM
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Hi Jack,

despite your English is very atractive, I do not understand what you ask. Sorry.
I'm sorry dear wm6

How can one end of the telescopic antenna to Earth????
Is it possible?
How to Plan???(A telescopic antenna and a signal transmitter to the ground together)
This will help the gold gun receiver to detect metals???


I wish I had found the English language to improve understanding
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:21 PM
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I'm sorry dear wm6

How can one end of the telescopic antenna to Earth????
Is it possible?
How to Plan???(A telescopic antenna and a signal transmitter to the ground together)
This will help the gold gun receiver to detect metals???

Maybe now I understand.

Yes it is possible that one end of antenna to be grounded to Earth. Look at last drawing and find point with comment "here grounded". You can instal wire from this point to ground. With this connection antenna is grounded to Earth.

GG can theorethically detect something (what and on which distance still need to be answered). You cannot expect to detect coins at distance, but maybe bigger deposits of metal. It depend on directivity of your GG receiving antenna.
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Maybe now I understand.

Yes it is possible that one end of antenna to be grounded to Earth. Look at last drawing and find point with comment "here grounded". You can instal wire from this point to ground. With this connection antenna is grounded to Earth.

GG can theorethically detect something (what and on which distance still need to be answered). You cannot expect to detect coins at distance, but maybe bigger deposits of metal. It depend on directivity of your GG receiving antenna.
What is the way to tuning the transmitter with a gold gun?
Please explain how the vlf transmitter with gold gun????
What do you recommend to set the frequency?
Please see the picture and identify specific areas?
Mr. wm6 please explain about how the vlf waves in the Earth and in space.The telescopic antenna transmits its own waves in the Earth without ground wire?
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:19 PM
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What is the way to tuning the transmitter with a gold gun?
Both have to work on the same frequency.

You get this by tuning LC tank circuit in Tx and RX antenna stages.

Try first with say 10 turns on RX ferrite rod, measure inductance, calculate whole inductance of say 500 to 1000 turns, calculate resonance frequency with C of 1 to 10nF, repeat the same with TX.

Read post #4 too again.
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What is the way to tuning the transmitter with a gold gun?
Please explain how the vlf transmitter with gold gun????
What do you recommend to set the frequency?
Please see the picture and identify specific areas?
Mr. wm6 please explain about how the vlf waves in the Earth and in space.The telescopic antenna transmits its own waves in the Earth without ground wire?
with tespect
Antenna can emmit better if grounded:
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:49 PM
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Hello WM6, is it possible for you to give us
The complete schematic for the transmitter
With the values of the capacitors .......etc.
Thank you.
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Hello WM6, is it possible for you to give us
The complete schematic for the transmitter
With the values of the capacitors .......etc.
Thank you.
This is jack's schematic not my. Ask him.

Here is my schematic (sorry I have not PCB, cause this MAX IC is not in my PCB design library):

http://www.dz863.com/drawsch_1925.html
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hi wm6
How low frequency transmitter in the ferrite?
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:47 AM
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hi mesy64 and other freinds
this is a transmitter vlf with coil anttena .How to change the antenna coil to the telescopic antenna.???
You can use the transmitter for the Said wm6 ???
Hi Jack,
What is the reason why you want to change from coil antenna to telescopic antenna?


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