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Old 09-10-2006, 01:49 AM
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Default Pistol like Mineoro

Very sensitive but very immune to electric lines and fluorescent tubes emmission, also very sensitive to static electricity. Want to try in inland. Two pics.
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Very sensitive but very immune to electric lines and fluorescent tubes emmission, also very sensitive to static electricity. Want to try in inland. Two pics.
What is there inside the box :confused: ?
Very sensitive at what?
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:17 PM
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Very sensitive to electric fields. I contrast with a Mineoro find, and my detector also work. This is very filtrate to AC current 50-60 Hz noise. Here with parts:
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Old 10-16-2006, 11:59 AM
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Hi Esteban. Thanks for the photo.
The printed coil and the ferite core are for magnetic detector? I see two detectors one for magnetic and one for electric field. How it detects metals ??
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Esteban,

Did you find necessary to shield the perimeter antena's PCB so it won't suffer interference in the back of the detector (handle side)?
That is, it does not pick signals from the back of detector (handle side).
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Old 10-16-2006, 04:25 PM
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Hi, the most important is that the electric field detector don't suffer interferences. The magnetic detector contain momentary press switch for to off the magnetic detector, so only works the electric field detector. The both detector actuates in conjunction electric + magnetic, the last as absorber.
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Very sensitive to electric fields. I contrast with a Mineoro find, and my detector also work. This is very filtrate to AC current 50-60 Hz noise. Here with parts:
Hi. If you are looking for metals at places that there are not electric fields (50 or 60 hz) then at which distance can you locate a metal object (a coin or a 1litre can)? What electric field does it detect from buried objects? Does it work with the principle of the ground battery ?
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Old 10-17-2006, 03:57 PM
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With an only magnetic method absorber you can find an old coin at 5 m, in combination with electric field detector 15-20 meters. Also depend the size of target. The only sure I'm is that a good conductive metal buried for long time has around him an electric field. Is as a pole of a battery formed in the soil for chemistry process.


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Default Pero bueno

Esteban, pues publica la información que tengas acerca de ese dispositivo.

El esquema y las conexiones, asÃ* como el principio de funcionamiento.

Nos estás dejando expectantes acerca de este novedoso invento, pero hablas poco, jajaja


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Old 10-18-2006, 05:29 AM
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With an only magnetic method absorber you can find an old coin at 5 m, in combination with electric field detector 15-20 meters. Also depend the size of target. The only sure I'm is that a good conductive metal buried for long time has around him an electric field. Is as a pole of a battery formed in the soil for chemistry process.

Very good . Thanks. It is fantastic to have the ability to find a coin from 5 to 15 m distance. Maybe at new year to try one. Now i must finish the anker ss60 and a new version of a 2box.
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:49 AM
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what is zahori.I mean the modified one by ivconic.is it electric field detector.

and if electric field detector detects from futher ,why do do add magnetic detector inside.what is the advantage of it,or your aim to add it?
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what is zahori.I mean the modified one by ivconic.is it electric field detector.

and if electric field detector detects from further ,why did you add magnetic detector inside.what is the advantage of it,or your aim to add it?
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:20 PM
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Esteban
I have another question
I cannot understand how this telescopic antennas work.
I mean,in radios we use this antenna in different manner.we hold it upwards and recieve with it's lateral sides.not from stars .just from base stations with laterals.
but in long range units .in zahori and mineoro we use it as pinpointer.we look like use it's tip not laterals.
Can you explain this.
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:29 PM
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For any reason? in this form works better for electric fields.
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Lightbulb Alot of work Esteban

Are you going to share the schematic with us or do you have plans to make and sell them? Would be good to give Mineoro some competition so they lower their prices. What needs to happen is for you to give demonstrations to metal detectorists. Guy's in Australia would give their left Gonad for something that would give them more depth than the GP4000 PI detectors.

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Old 10-21-2006, 02:32 AM
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Personal experiments and investigations. Not in mind competition.
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With an only magnetic method absorber you can find an old coin at 5 m, in combination with electric field detector 15-20 meters. Also depend the size of target. The only sure I'm is that a good conductive metal buried for long time has around him an electric field. Is as a pole of a battery formed in the soil for chemistry process.
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if you only use elecric field detector,what will be the result.
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Hi Esteban. Every time that i look at the pistol photo i have a new question. Now i see the tune coil. At who frequency is tuned ?
The meter works only from electric field detector but the buzzer from both detectors (if the wires from key have a output signal). What is the trafo and audio in?
Electric field and magnetic field detectors are work at the same frequency ?
I know that this detector is result from your Personal experiments and investigations so there is not problem if you do not want to answer me.
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:48 PM
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Hi

In the Khz range. The meter only is for to adjust the electric field detector in a point semi-quiet, a kind of monitor, and the buzzer shows detection of the both.

The trafo is part of the output of the magnetic detector, adjustable (I added a new external control for it).

Electric field detector don't work via frequency.
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Esteban,

How much are you going to charge to see your schematic? Also on your picture change the word "sensibility" and use the work sensitivity instead.

I'm working on a detector myself but I have to do lab and in-sutu experiments to see if I'm going with SIP,CW White noise or plasma. I just bought off ebay a USB module that gives you a Scope and Spectrum Analyzer and you can do a Freq.VS Phase display which I'll need for SIP all for $200 (made in China of course). It's going to be awhile as I've got alot of work ahead of me but when I finish I will be straight forward in presenting the schematics and the test results so I encourage you to do the same for us.

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Refer sensibility. I'm thinking in your idea, remember? Very interesting!!!
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Have u PCB and Part list for this Pistol pls?
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Very sensitive but very immune to electric lines and fluorescent tubes emission,

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Yes, unfortunately very immune to all types of precious metals too.
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For any reason? in this form works better for electric fields.
Hello Esteban

Do you have some information about this new Pistoldetector ?

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Do you have some information about this new Pistoldetector ?

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Does they sell yet this old detector?????

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