Oh Can't WE just Vote Qiaozhi OUT as Adimistrator

[Ernie]

I for one am sick of Qiaozhi's Administration with his biasing of this subject and call for a NEW ADMINISTRATOR. Were going nowhere on the LRL trail! And it's taking too long!

[hung]

Hi Ernie,

I vote YES.

But since I don't waste time anymore with him and also since he's Carl ´phony reports' Moreland's advocate, I don't think there will be any change.
But you can start a poll and try to elect a new administrator.

Free elections now!

[Ernie]

I call for all members to vote. Stuff the prize money. We are all here to progress at our hobby and to make great friendship in doing so, and all i get for QIAOZHI is sarcasme and ridicule which i believe does not take any of us forward and so i propose to vote for a new Administrator. Sorry QIAOZHI but i think your administration teachiques are antiquated.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Ernie

I for one am sick of Qiaozhi's Administration with his biasing of this subject and call for a NEW ADMINISTRATOR. Were going nowhere on the LRL trail! And it's taking too long!

You can only thanks to god, that I am not administrator.

You need first to fix your ground-balance and then post on forums.

[Ernie]

Originally Posted by WM6

You can only thanks to god, that I am not administrator.

You need first to fix your ground-balance and then post on forums.

How long have we all been stuffing around pressing keypads (making the phone companies rich) with Qiaozhi as adminnistrator? and getting nowhere with this LrL forum? All Qiaozhi is doing is sending us around and around in circles with his biasing.
I VOTE TIME FOR A CHANGE - QIAOZHI OUT! NEW ADIM IN!

[kt315]

Ernie, what your problem is in? has your girl left you off??

[Mike(Mont)]

I certainly don't agree with one word he has to say (actually I mean "parrot") about LRL's but at least he is somewhat polite. For that I would grade him a "B".

I do have to laugh when I read about how the skep's claim the LRL's have a range of inches. I think they are confused with metal detectors and they cannot even begin comprehend the abilities of the human sensing system. All energy radiates to infinity. Of course their motto is "If you can't measure it, it does not exist." For that I would grade him and every other skeptic an "F-". Only because there is no lower grade.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Ernie

I for one am sick of Qiaozhi's Administration with his biasing of this subject and call for a NEW ADMINISTRATOR. Were going nowhere on the LRL trail! And it's taking too long!

As WM6 said, you should count yourself lucky that he (or a number of others) are not an administrator here. You would have been ejected months, or even years ago. Our tolerance for the nonsense you've posted here needs the patience of Job. Especially the pornographic jokes you posted recently, and which were very quickly removed. You even had the audacity to repost the same thing again after I had removed it. At the moment you're hanging on by a thread. Be warned.

[goldfinder]

Even though I don't always agree w/ Q that is his opinion. As for Ernie who doesn't produce or contribute anything, if he is dumping porno crap, I say remove him. Porn is destroying lots of people and marriages and is a very destructive element in our world.

I think Q is fine. If I had to agree with someone to have them as an associate I'd have zero friends and associates and no wife. We are all at various stages of understanding the universe. Harmony is the basic structure of the universe and it should be our modus operandi too in though word and deed !

I have tangled w/ lots of orthodox types wedded to the current physics and electronic paradigm and they have a valid point. At least most of their stuff works fairly well. I have degrees my self in science areas and I understand their mentality. That doesn't make them right 100%.

There is a huge amount of data and really good experimental evidence for alternative views. The reason most of the hardcore orthodox types won't accept it is their beliefs have become a religion with them.

If you want to put out a new science paradigm then it has to work. And the environment for it to work must be well defined.

So I vote to keep Q. If you don't agree w/ Q then ignore him.

Lets get on with developing a new science paradigm. I view some kind of LRL as a part of that.

Goldfinder

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by goldfinder

Lets get on with developing a new science paradigm. I view some kind of LRL as a part of that.

Thanks goldfinder.
It's not LRL experimentation that I'm against per se. As you've seen, I have supported others in their quest for an electronic LRL, even though I am hugely skeptical of any success.

The so-called LRLs that I have a problem with are the types with a swinging handle. These are clearly dowsing rods with some attached do-nothing electronics designed to fool the technically challenged. However, there are also some attempts at creating a non-swinging handle LRL which are also clearly bogus. One of these is the Bionic device, recently posted here by Hung. I think it is important to present the scientifically-based argument against these devices, especially as a number of people have lost huge sums of money in pursuit of a dream based on false claims. Everyone is, of course, entitled to their own opinion, and I would be the first to say that you need to make up your own mind, and not take the "facts" at face value. If this involves some expenditure in order to obtain your "LRL education", then so be it.

But (and this applies to Ernie in particular) do not post utter garbage about dowsing and other related activities (as if they are a proven fact) without expecting someone to make a comment. In particular, please try to post things that actually make sense, and do not read like the ravings of a madman. Remember ... if you make outrageous claims, then expect to be challenged.

And one last message to Ernie. You know the rules. If you are uncertain and need a refresher, then please read them again here -> http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10529
If you don't like the rules, or you simply cannot stand anyone disagreeing with you, then why not start your own dowsing-friendly forum elsewhere? Then you can happily ban all the skeptics, and wallow in your own self ignorance.

[Geo]

Albeit with Qiaozhi i have different perceptions for lrl, he is quite cooperative when i asked for help in order to upload any video from my LRLs.
I want Qiaozhi as administrator.

[Mike(Mont)]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Thanks goldfinder.
It's not LRL experimentation that I'm against per se. As you've seen, I have supported others in their quest for an electronic LRL, even though I am hugely skeptical of any success.

The so-called LRLs that I have a problem with are the types with a swinging handle. These are clearly dowsing rods with some attached do-nothing electronics designed to fool the technically challenged. However, there are also some attempts at creating a non-swinging handle LRL which are also clearly bogus. One of these is the Bionic device, recently posted here by Hung. I think it is important to present the scientifically-based argument against these devices, especially as a number of people have lost huge sums of money in pursuit of a dream based on false claims. Everyone is, of course, entitled to their own opinion, and I would be the first to say that you need to make up your own mind, and not take the "facts" at face value. If this involves some expenditure in order to obtain your "LRL education", then so be it.

You just need to admit you can't understand anything about L-rods then you'll be making an accurate statement. I used to think you skep's were just playing dumb, but now I think you have been brainwashed by some failure/cop-out. Just a classic case of the blind leading the blind. debunkingskeptics.com

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

You just need to admit you can't understand anything about L-rods then you'll be making an accurate statement. I used to think you skep's were just playing dumb, but now I think you have been brainwashed by some failure/cop-out. Just a classic case of the blind leading the blind. debunkingskeptics.com

Instead of making abusive comments against individuals or skeptics in general, it would make a welcome change for you guys to contribute some technical material or observations, rather than posting supposed facts based on blind faith or years of indoctrination.

[homefire]

I vote you all quit with the sniveling , produce a working LRL and PROVE it works! LOL

[ivconic]

Usually i do not participate here in LRL threads, but now i simply must react and say something!
I just saw this topic, otherwise i would react much more earlier (obvious proof that i don't pay much attention on LRL topics lately).
Qiaozhi is best possible choice for Administrator - so i vote NO!
No way!
Among many nice people here i think he is the most suitable to be Administrator.
Pretty calm, conversant, literate, polite, fair and democratic (sometimes bit more democratic than i can understand).
So i don't see what's a problem?

[Monolith]

This is a most excellent forum and it is so because of the good administration.
My vote: The administrator stays.

About dowsing and other non scientific talk, I like to keep an open mind. We have seen in the past how paradigms are overturned and new discoveries show that science had still a lot to learn.
We all still have a lot to learn and I would love to see a dowsing science developing.
Science is proof.
Science is repeatable.

So please post some repeatable experiments. I and many others would love to repeat them.

Monolith

[Fred]

Actually i have often been amazed by the tolerance of this forum administration, and the existence of this very thread, just because one guy disagree with the admin, proves it.
Qiaozhi has been doing a great job here, and his posts and personal opinion has nothing to do with the forum moderation.
You´re making us lose our time, Ernie.

[Mike(Mont)]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Instead of making abusive comments against individuals or skeptics in general, it would make a welcome change for you guys to contribute some technical material or observations, rather than posting supposed facts based on blind faith or years of indoctrination.

I've taken more than my share of abuse in the last fifteen years on the forums from skeptics and LRL proponents. I try to be honest, and like the saying goes "The truth hurts." No one has ever accused me of being politically correct (quite the oxymoron, anyway). You skeptics have pulled every sick, deceptive, dirty trick in the book and many more. If I didn't love LRL's as much as I do I sure as Hell wouldn't be on ANY forum.

I've spent years trying to help skeptics but they don't want help. sam even admitted he enjoys ridiculing LRL proponents. First they abuse then they expect us to kiss their butt. That's how pimps operate. And you wonder why I am so disgusted. Let me just tell you something--I don't enjoy hurting ANYONE'S feelings. I know it happens--no matter what I say someone is going to find some reason to take offense. That's the "chip on your shoulder" thing. You can't believe how stupid I think you guys are. Why don't you get a frequency generator and go out and practice. You can't imagine how wonderful it is, but it takes a few weeks of daily practice and it is essential that you get over your negativity. That's not that difficult. I know some people can never get the chip off their shoulder.

See ya!

[Jim]

Originally Posted by homefire

I vote you all quit with the sniveling , produce a working LRL and PROVE it works! LOL

aye

[aft_72005]

Hi
My vote , NO .
Qiaozhi is good man , he act base on forum provision .
There isn’t any strong reason .
I am agree with Qiaozhi also he is administrator.

[ANDREAS]

My vote is NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Qiaozhi is a best choice for administator and work!!!!! for all.

[DOOLEY]

thought i'd put in my 2 peneth's worth ,

the word "truth" was mentioned earlier , is that in regard to the video of LRL at the start of the other thread ??

i watched the low budget video ,

was quite entertained with all the razzle dazzle ,even chuckled a few times , and thought it was a mere joke from a comady sketch show or a **** take video like what you find on utube ,

IF a miricle discovery happened , then it would be all over the media big time ,

i'm not against LRL's , prove to me they work , and i'll accept them
bent metal dowsing rods work for finding drains , pipes etc...etc...
they have been proven to me, i can use them , they work , and i accept them ,

but something that looks like a mere app on an android bolted to whats poss a box with a battery in it with a switch (poss simply to keep phone powered up for 16 hours)

post re-made video , that shows man (or woman) with a shovel , digging up said finds.

[FrancoItaly]

Also my vote is NO, Qiaozhi always helps by his knowledge of electronic, for example with the first Alonzo Pistol, although he does not believe in LRL phenomenon...

Best Regards

[kt315]

this is first case in history of the forum anyone wishes to delete Qiaozhi from moderators. we must think why LRL frauds are very active just here in DIY field. no place in global net you can see them so active. only here they goes by biggest solid group. I vote - GO OUT, LRLERS, YOUR PLACE IN TOILET. Qiaozhi is best moderator your dirty hands off from him!

[michael]

Admittedly Qiaozhi is LRL skeptic, but he is mostly reasonable, knowing, rational administrator with appropriate reflection & reaction to members request, So my vote: stay and keep administration.