Ramka by Morgan

aft_72005 · #1 03-17-2009, 08:45 AM

Hi Morgan
Opening new thread here for Ramka.
You said , it is from russa latter . are you having oscloscope or
Frequncy meter .can you measure singnal at antenna ?
may be seem as other transmitted 5khz frequency .
Also please more explain .
Best regards.

Morgan · #2 03-18-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aft_72005

Hi Morgan
Opening new thread here for Ramka.
You said , it is from russa latter . are you having oscloscope or
Frequncy meter .can you measure singnal at antenna ?
may be seem as other transmitted 5khz frequency .
Also please more explain .
Best regards.

Hi Aft

This device works with frequences,its some kind of frequences generator connected to the antenna. There is also one potentiometer the GAIN.
Its very good Dowsing Rod,even for the skeptics...
In Russia,dowsing is very popular,and exist special centers to teach.

sweatofglory · #3 03-18-2009, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Morgan

Hi Aft

This device works with frequences,its some kind of frequences generator connected to the antenna. There is also one potentiometer the GAIN.
Its very good Dowsing Rod,even for the skeptics...
In Russia,dowsing is very popular,and exist special centers to teach.

Hi Morgan,

No! "SkipSticks" does not know how to use rods and sticks! They even hate chinese restaurants and barbeque house as well.

Seden · #4 03-18-2009, 06:38 AM

Except for the non sequitar above this post, that's an interesting way to use a dowsing rod. It does make it more difficult for the ideomotor response though from what I can tell. Who owns one of these?

Randy

Mike(Mont) · #5 03-18-2009, 01:44 PM

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,225210.0.html

sweatofglory · #6 03-18-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,225210.0.html

Goodbye Mike(Mont)

Nice try..........

Mike(Mont) · #7 03-18-2009, 03:04 PM

You don't need to feel threatened. I scrapped the gyros and jeweled bearings in favor of the inverse dihedral, and ended up with this elegant piece of artwork. It's just awesome.

sweatofglory · #8 03-18-2009, 03:21 PM

Hi Mike,

How's your Aero rods? is it already out in the market? just email me for the price. tnx.....

Theseus · #9 03-18-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

You don't need to feel threatened. I scrapped the gyros and jeweled bearings in favor of the inverse dihedral, and ended up with this elegant piece of artwork. It's just awesome.

Awesome?

Don't you mean it is a basic dowsing gadget, requiring an ideomotor response in order to move, and thus is no different from a bent piece of wire, which is basically not unlike chance guessing.

If that's not true, please provide the data and facts to prove otherwise.

Mike(Mont) · #10 03-18-2009, 03:56 PM

I make no claims or guarantees. What I have experienced will most likely differ from others. It is up to you to learn what works for you.

Qiaozhi · #11 03-18-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I make no claims or guarantees. What I have experienced will most likely differ from others. It is up to you to learn what works for you.

Caveat emptor.

Mike(Mont) · #12 03-18-2009, 04:54 PM

I offer a ten day return at full refund minus postage as long as the unit is undamaged and untampered with. Be sure to get a signature confirmation.

Theseus · #13 03-18-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I offer a ten day return at full refund minus postage as long as the unit is undamaged and untampered with. Be sure to get a signature confirmation.

That is a WEAK boilerplate Refund Policy with the intention of NEVER refunding any of the customer's money, since it is nearly impossible to test and find the unit is worthless (and return it) in less than 10 days.

I would recommend you increase the time limit to at least 30 days; 60 days would be much better. (10 days is basically a no refund policy at all)

Theseus · #14 03-18-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I make no claims or guarantees. What I have experienced will most likely differ from others. It is up to you to learn what works for you.

What exactly have you experienced?????

Have you found buried treasure (that you didn't throw over your shoulder) with your new gadget, that you can prove you would not have found with a bent piece of wire, or a needle and thread pendulum????

Mike(Mont) · #15 03-18-2009, 10:09 PM

When I need a new business manager, I'll look you up ---NOT!!!

I found three rings in the first hour and a half unfortunately the two gold ones were plated and the emeralds and diamonds are fake. Bummer! But the silver ring was sterling with a very nice opal. Had some other hot spots but ran out of time.

Theseus · #16 03-19-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

When I need a new business manager, I'll look you up ---NOT!!!

I found three rings in the first hour and a half unfortunately the two gold ones were plated and the emeralds and diamonds are fake. Bummer! But the silver ring was sterling with a very nice opal. Had some other hot spots but ran out of time.

First you need to be conducting a legitimate business before you'll need a business manager.

But back to what you found........ how do you know you wouldn't have found those same worthless targets without the use of your dowsing wand? Or, found them with a bent piece of wire?

After all, using a dowsing wand prior to metal detecting an area is the same as "guessing" where a possible spot to hunt would be.

Afraid you'll need to do A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN THAT, Mike.

Your methods of testing are about what I would expect.

Useless and totally unconvincing.

Mike(Mont) · #17 03-19-2009, 01:09 PM

Sorry, didn't mean to step on this thread.

Mike(Mont) · #18 03-19-2009, 01:22 PM

I don't give a rodent's anus what you think. Envy is just another negative emotion that seems to control you, just like your obsession to control other people. Anybody here needs to learn something it's you.

I don't credit the rod completely, I was using a frequency generator and just followed the signal line. Of course I give some credit to the rod. The conditions were weaker than usual and I doubt other rods of any price could have picked up the signals. Of course you just wouldn't know.

Theseus · #19 03-19-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I don't give a rodent's anus what you think. Envy is just another negative emotion that seems to control you, just like your obsession to control other people. Anybody here needs to learn something it's you.

I don't credit the rod completely, I was using a frequency generator and just followed the signal line. Of course I give some credit to the rod. The conditions were weaker than usual and I doubt other rods of any price could have picked up the signals. Of course you just wouldn't know.

Better take a Chill Pill, Mike. Your anger issues are flaring up again.

You can give all the credit you want to your dowsing wand, just as soon as you can provide some evidence that it did something different from you guessing which area to metal detect next.

Try to understand, if you can't prove any actual merit to using your dowsing wand, then how do you expect to show everyone it is better than just guessing?

Morgan · #20 03-19-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Seden

Except for the non sequitar above this post, that's an interesting way to use a dowsing rod. It does make it more difficult for the ideomotor response though from what I can tell. Who owns one of these?

Randy

Yes,the ideomotor not works with this Rod,but it reacts very good with buried noble metals,until now all the times the antenna moves i get one non ferrous target.
I get this device last time i was in Moscow.

Fred · #21 03-19-2009, 10:23 PM

I cannot see any reason why the ideomotor has no effect on this device, if you tilt the handle in any way, gravity will make the moving part rotate in that direction, right?

Theseus · #22 03-19-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred

I cannot see any reason why the ideomotor has no effect on this device, if you tilt the handle in any way, gravity will make the moving part rotate in that direction, right?

Perhaps, the user believes that since they aren't actually holding the portion that flops around in response to gravity; that an ideomotor response is not involved.

Clearly, that is faulty thinking.

Mike(Mont) · #23 03-19-2009, 11:31 PM

Morgan, the unit looks very heavy, but I like the way the rod is extended out away from the user.

Morgan · #24 03-19-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Morgan, the unit looks very heavy, but I like the way the rod is extended out away from the user.

Its not heavy,its made with aluminium tube and plastic,and only uses one 9 volt battery.The weigth in this Rod is well balanced.

Morgan · #25 03-19-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred

I cannot see any reason why the ideomotor has no effect on this device, if you tilt the handle in any way, gravity will make the moving part rotate in that direction, right?

This device is to use in horizontal position,imagine you go walking with a glass full of wather in your rigth hand.
I try this Ramka with the circuit and gain OFF,and not works,even ideomotor not make the antenna move...
So the russian Rod its interesting device to clone,problem is the electronic circuit completly inside resine epoxy