finding a basis

[Funfinder]

this complete thread primary goes to Geo, Morgan, Qiaozhi, detectoman, Andreas, wm6, j_player and all others who are interested in "LRL-technology":


And especially to the pro LRL persons: Stop your substanceless "talking around the hot soup"-nonsense !!!


We have already hung as a very negative example and seems he is vanished now !!

The intention of Carl is and ever was to discover the real technical facts of LRL (this is also my interest) and therefore everyone who dwells in shady light or provides "mysterious" info is not welcome!


It is very interesting, that OKM and Mineoro - the main "LRL"-producers, are also providing real working detectors. Similar many LRL interested people here know very well about electronic detection possibilities of special weak EM-fields.

So why they do such "bad" things?

It is the arrogance of the "knowing" who are tempted to fool naive persons and look for methods to rip them off or is it their stupid wish thinking that their "special-detectors" would be good enough for others (because of selfdelusional own tests or the wish to create some wonder-machines and became "famous" with them) ???

There may be many different intentions, but this doesn't help those who either wanna get real working products or otherwise better nothing at all.

"Mining the miners" is a very evil intention and has to be fighted with all methods. Treasure-Hunters are not the stupid ones where cunning liars can grab the cheap money from!


The electronical facts are clear:

With real existing physical devices and parts you only can detect real existing natural energy flows, EM-fields, radiation sources etc.!

The human mind can detect ghosts and the arms holding some wooden staff may find some water but this is nothing provable!
Some people even think to be able talking with gods or aliens - fantastic for them - but those hallucinations are nothing worth for the public, besides entertainment.


So after it is clear that only real existing stuff is detectable, it should be no problem to define what detects it or not.



Don't disguise your cheap long-wave or earth-magnetical field anomalies radio-detectors as LRL !!!
This is the same stupid method as calling a flux-magneto a ground penetration radar!

You are no fancy chicks or gays who have to paint their faces to be something else and much more "beautiful" to other people as in real!


The real goal is to improve possible detection methods up to a real useful level, please keep this in mind instead of betraying others with shiny words and fantastic claims!

If you have the guts and pride to work together on such a constructive level, do it here, otherwise go to hell like all those persons who wanna tell here their betraying fairy tales, without having any real scientifical or electro-technical substanceful background.

No one needs erratic beep detectors who are much too unsensitive for reliable detection!
LRL is on the field of high stability and filtering weakest contrast factors. If you are not good enough to deal with it, stop it, no one needs a radio that only outputs white noise, either! And stop seeding and spreading false hopes if this LRL detection-technology is not far enough to provide real useful readable outputs!


Per instance a long-wave anomalies-detector only will work if the needed energy field (many times some artifical created signal on a certain frequency, like time pulses or orientation signals for planes) is strong enough. Same applies to static and earth magnetical fields. If your modified radio receivers are not sensitive and the output signals are not contrastful enough, improve it or throw it away, instead of spreading rumours about "real working LRL detectors". Or sell it to kids who are living in their dream fantasy world of fairy tales and treasure-chests for 10 bucks, they will like it!


Here we need results, and this forum failed since 7 years in that task big time! This is a technical forum and not a platform for lunatics who wanna sell their fraud-products.


And if we have people here, who claim to be able to construct "somehow working" LRL-devices like Morgan, Geo or Andreas, we must take this good opportunity and try that those are working together until some finally somehow real usable detector will be the result.

Otherwise go to OKM and Mineoro and as "their technical experts" they will love you for shure, but we will not love your and their not reliable working LRL childsplay products!

A little warning:
Treasure-Hunters not always are dear and kind vegetarians and philantrops! They may have bad intentions, perhaps raid tombs, many of them wanna became rich without much hesitates and their job can make them very tough or even brutal. Just watch the movie "Blood Diamond" and you know what I mean. So better don't play stupid electronic-cheat-games with them or you could bitterly regret it, if you deal with the false people. Play fair if you think you have discovered interesting detection methods but don't dare to cheat people with extremly overpriced crap or they may come after you and take a look at your personal "treasures" you have collected with your scam or unreflected selfdelusional activities.

This forum should remove all persons who only spread here nice stories about their "working selfbuilt detectors" but have not the slightest proofs about it, if those are not fair enough to share their thoughts with the public so we can prove if those are realistic and useful enough or if this is just a bunch of crap.


And please name the stuff exactly!!!

Of course long-wave detectors will find EM-field anomalies from a larger distance as an usual metal detector, but if such EMFAD etc. receiver will detect a single coin from 3 meters still is pretty unprobable (perhaps if the transmitter and the ground are perfect for this task, but not under usual conditions).

Even a cheap compass for 1 buck will find iron objects from a pretty large distance. But this is for shure no LRL-detector.

And if you should have no clue what your homebrew wannabe LRL thing detects, please read some electronic manuals or ask the guys from where your clone ideas came from, if you should got your "inspirations" by foreign sources.

Its not of use to have a blinking light that reacts on anything but not on the stuff on what it really should react.


All this is just for the sake of us all, because no one needs to waste 1000s of bucks and hundreds of hours reading for worthless crap!


And this forum finally has to come to a clear and valuable result sometimes - soon! and not in 100 years !!!


I really hope the electronic-technical active persons here start working together on a constructive basis to create something for everyone in LRL interested really useful instead of producing mysterious and unreliable rumors, claims or almost completly useless and highly overpriced pseudo-detectors!

[Dave J.]

Originally Posted by Funfinder

Here we need results, and this forum failed since 7 years in that task big time! This is a technical forum and not a platform for lunatics who wanna sell their fraud-products.

Funfinder, you're quite mistaken about all that.

If you want a technical forum that weeds out the gullibillies and fraudsters pretty quick, that'd be Geotech.

--Dave J.

[Dave J.]

And that summarizes the Devil's stance. Which is that real geophysical exploration apparatus disproves what everyone who knows what an ordinary magnetic compass will and won't do.

With logic like that, the Devil should be running for political office. But wait a minute, aren't the political offices already filled with that kind?


--Dave J.

[Qiaozhi]

Dedevil - That's 2 strikes for name calling. Once more and your out!
Please read the forum rules.

[detectoman]

calm calm funfinder, we no goes to gave free at industrial builders chinesses and other comercial oportunist, all the results of our hard work whit lrl experimentations, but yes little guideances and tips, this is public, what you need? all was put, morgan esteban andreas, gave all neccesary, esteban was a prodigue helper and what obtain? he was reach, take you of here only the lrl basics no need most you look a be succes lrl builder, here exist all neccesary, totem, zahory, pd bfo, videos convincents, you claim? put you videos of your experiments, this all, a embrace

calmese calmese funfinder, nosotros no vamos a dar gratis a los construcctores industriales chinos o otros oportunistas comerciales todos los resultados de nuestro duro trabajo con la investigacion lrl, pero si pequeñas guias y consejos, esto es pubñico, que necesita usted? todo fue dado, morgan esteban y andreas dieron todo, esteban fue un prodigo ayudante en esto, a fondoooo, y que recibio? el fue rechazado, usted quiere ser exitoso constructor de lrls? aqui hay todo lo necesario para su exito que mas quiere? usted exige? ponga usted resultados de sus experimentos, eso es todo.. un abrazo

[detectoman]

funfinder, in this forum exist all neccessary diagram and lrl circuts for beginner and for all lrl success, also true videos, put you at work! show you own personal material

[detectoman]

funfinder;¿you have any little electronic circuit build? any pest alarm, led whit batery powered show these here! jiji i no like gave you my sforced secrets may be you are a chinesse man

[oroboy]

Inside of bionic 01 are all flc magnetometer sensors mounted vertically and two horizontal opposite each other. The machine logs the vertical elevation while the two horizantal logs the compass direction of the machine. Place and calibrate a target infront of the machine like jewelries, the machine would detect the target. Now remove the target and aim again to the same direction and elevation, the machine would still indicate a positive target.

[Geo]

Thanks Oroby, good photo.
Do you have any photo from a "antenna"??
Since the FGM sensors are inside the box, then what does receives with the antennas???


Regards

[oroboy]

HI Geo,

Bionic 01 have 3 antenna 2 short on each side and one long in the middle. Long antenna in the middle also have flc 100 magnetometer, both short antenna have jumper wires only to connect to the middle antenna to complete the circuit.

[Geo]

Thank you Oroboy.
This with the small antennas is very interesting

Regards

[oroboy]

Geo,

Your welcome, Yeh what a device for finding gold????????