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As , I understand , from whats wrote, Geo said Morgan used hidden transmitter
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Maybe I am on wrong way, Greek people please translate
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As , I understand , from whats wrote, Geo said Morgan used hidden transmitter
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Maybe I am on wrong way, Greek people please translate
Of course you have wrong....
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Last words says "I don't believe it"
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:37 AM
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I saw this subject and translated it from Greek forum .
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And... if you want my opinion the PDK by Morgan maybe it is the only REAL LRL in the market this time. It is not a simple magnetometer but a LRL


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hello!
I have tried in various ways to manage to create a same phenomenon as an old metal in the soil, I have not succeeded, the only solution is the accidental discovery of metal in the park as we have mentioned!
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As , I understand , from whats wrote, Geo said Morgan used hidden transmitter
( in chain detection movie) . !!!!!
Maybe I am on wrong way, Greek people please translate
You know, Geo have traveled here to see the Alonso PD and tested in the field, if someone want to see a PDK working,is free to come here and do a field test,and see if there is some hide transmitter.
Like Geo said,the PDK is a true LRL.
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You know, Geo have traveled here to see the Alonso PD and tested in the field, if someone want to see a PDK working,is free to come here and do a field test,and see if there is some hide transmitter.
Like Geo said,the PDK is a true LRL.
I don’t know you use hidden transmitter , movie never show hidden transmitter .
Other thing , I didn’t decide saying you use transmitter .
Came to long range forum whats wrote in Greek forum.
Many people here seeing movie , but this is not enough proof .
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:14 AM
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I don’t know you use hidden transmitter , movie never show hidden transmitter .
Other thing , I didn’t decide saying you use transmitter .
Came to long range forum whats wrote in Greek forum.
Many people here seeing movie , but this is not enough proof .
It is not fair to say the movie is not proof enough.
Morgan invited everyone in the forum to come and watch with their own eyes at the time when he made the movie.
He invited the whole world so see the Alonso PD locate treasure. But the only person who came to watch is Geo.

After the video for the Alonso PD was posted, then we heard people say this is not a good video.
But these are the same people who did not go to watch with their own eyes to see if the PD is working or not.
The only person who saw the Alonso PD working is Geo.
Geo checked to be sure there was no hidden transmitter before he tested the Alonso PD.
After Geo tested the Alonso PD, he did not say the PD was fake.
Geo reported that the PD was working exactly as we saw in the video.

After I watched the video and I heard the reports from Geo, I think the video is a good video.
This is one of the few good videos I have ever seen in this forum which shows LRLs locating at a known treasure location.

Now we see Morgan has invited again for anyone to come and see with their own eyes the PDK working.
What other LRL experimenter will invite the whole world to come and watch with their own eyes?
Will Alonso permit you to come to the Mineoro factory for a demonstration and check for hidden transmitters?
No...... Alonso will never permit you to search for his hidden transmitters.

Only Morgan is making this invitation to come and test for yourself, and check to be sure there is no hidden transmitters!
There is no excuse to complain that there is no proof available.


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You know, Geo have traveled here to see the Alonso PD and tested in the field, if someone want to see a PDK working,is free to come here and do a field test,and see if there is some hide transmitter.
Like Geo said,the PDK is a true LRL.

Ok, About Alonso PD , For me this subject is clearly , you and Geo show to people what you like to show. There was, many other things didn't show .
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It is not fair to say the movie is not proof enough.

From where you sure there isn’t hidden transmitter , ?

Now we see Morgan has invited again for anyone to come and see with their own eyes the PDK working.

Travel cost so more than PD cost , I don’t need travel
As I said ,personally It is not important for me there was or there wasn’t hideen
Transmitter , I wrote whats was in Greek forum
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About Alonso PD , at the first was teach project , but seeing now , it is top secret
, it is top complex , as I know Morgan build again as PDK !!!. Geo build as PDK!!!
Morgan is seller , Geo saying not seller
Yes ,PD so complex nobody of engineers here cannot build it!!!!
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Ok, About Alonso PD , For me this subject is clearly , you and Geo show to people what you like to show. There was, many other things didn't show .
What was the things that we didn't show????

All you, must understand that i went to Portugal to see if PD works as LRL, and to see if Morgan says the truth. I did not go to collect info and to give them to everybody who stay and relax at his armchair!!!!
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About Alonso PD , at the first was teach project , but seeing now , it is top secret
, it is top complex , as I know Morgan build again as PDK !!!. Geo build as PDK!!!
Morgan is seller , Geo saying not seller
Yes ,PD so complex nobody of engineers here cannot build it!!!!
I am not constructor and i am not SELLER
I am a treasure hunter, no a coins collector
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It is not fair to say the movie is not proof enough.

From where you sure there isn’t hidden transmitter , ?

Now we see Morgan has invited again for anyone to come and see with their own eyes the PDK working.

Travel cost so more than PD cost , I don’t need travel
As I said ,personally It is not important for me there was or there wasn’t hideen
Transmitter , I wrote whats was in Greek forum
Hi Aft,
I am not sure there was no hidden transmitter.
There are two reasons why I think there is no hidden transformer at Morgan's test garden:
1. I do not believe Morgan will make any trick to hide a transmitter.
2. I believe Geo made a check to see if there was a hidden transmitter before he tested the Alonso PD.

It is possible that I am wrong. I was not there to test for myself and use my own instruments to check for hidden transmitters.
So the only way I can know if there is a hidden transmitter or not, is to rely on what I have observed from Morgan and Geo.
From what I know, I believe Morgan does not make tricks to fool people about the performance of treasure hunting tools.
And from what I know about Geo, I believe he will take measures to find if someone is trying to trick him.
So I believe Geo made some check be sure there is no transmitter before he tested the PD.

But as I said, I could be wrong.
You may be correct to think that Geo and Morgan were conspiring to show fraud Alonso PD detection in the forum.
But I don't believe this.


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I don’t know you use hidden transmitter , movie never show hidden transmitter .
Other thing , I didn’t decide saying you use transmitter .
Came to long range forum whats wrote in Greek forum.
Many people here seeing movie , but this is not enough proof .
You understand me wrongly, I´m offering to you or other skeptics,or LRL entusiasts ,to come here and inspect if there is some hide transmitter in my field test,this is the best i can do.
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About Alonso PD , at the first was teach project , but seeing now , it is top secret
, it is top complex , as I know Morgan build again as PDK !!!. Geo build as PDK!!!
Morgan is seller , Geo saying not seller
Yes ,PD so complex nobody of engineers here cannot build it!!!!
I already stop RDK construction for people,you right that me and Geo are friends but what he saw here in my field test was the pure evidence of one real PHENOMENON,that maybe is very strong here. Me and Geo not have any agreement to say lies to Geotech Forum.
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What was the things that we didn't show????

It is secret

I did not go to collect info and to give them to everybody who stay and relax at his armchair!!!!

I know all about PD , but not by you or Morgan . I don’t need your data.
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About Alonso PD , at the first was teach project , but seeing now , it is top secret

Hi aft_72005, it is still "teach project".

I cannot suggest best approach than use "Inside the Metal Detector" book.
There you have all data, tip and tricks, you need to build, experiment and test Alonso like PD.
No matter if you are believer or sceptic you can start there and build/test your own LRL pistol detector:

Chapter 14: Pistol Detector
Ferrite Receiver
TX Circuit
The Sky and Compass Effects
Detecting the Anomaly
The Front Panel Controls
TR Mode of Operation
Nulling the Ferrite Coil
But Does it Actually Work?
Meaning of TOTeM
Construction Details
Conclusion

Her on forum we can still discuss all possible problems you are faced with during construction.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:32 PM
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I am not constructor and i am not SELLER
I am a treasure hunter, no a coins collector


I am automation engineer , I am not seller LRL .
Metal detector and LRL is my hobby
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Hi aft_72005, it is still "teach project".

I cannot suggest best approach than use "Inside the Metal Detector" book.
There you have all data, tip and tricks, you need to build, experiment and test Alonso like PD.
No matter if you are believer or sceptic you can start there and build/test your own LRL pistol detector:

Chapter 14: Pistol Detector
Ferrite Receiver
TX Circuit
The Sky and Compass Effects
Detecting the Anomaly
The Front Panel Controls
TR Mode of Operation
Nulling the Ferrite Coil
But Does it Actually Work?
Meaning of TOTeM
Construction Details
Conclusion

Her on forum we can still discuss all possible problems you are faced with during construction.
Hi WM6
For me PD isnot tech project now.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:56 PM
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You understand me wrongly, I´m offering to you or other skeptics,or LRL entusiasts ,to come here and inspect if there is some hide transmitter in my field test,this is the best i can do.

Morgan you understand wrongly my idea , I never say your PDK don’t work
I never say you using hidden transmitter .
See and study picture upload at first from Greek forum ,
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:58 PM
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Hi aft_72005, it is still "teach project".

I cannot suggest best approach than use "Inside the Metal Detector" book.
There you have all data, tip and tricks, you need to build, experiment and test Alonso like PD.
No matter if you are believer or sceptic you can start there and build/test your own LRL pistol detector:

Chapter 14: Pistol Detector
Ferrite Receiver
TX Circuit
The Sky and Compass Effects
Detecting the Anomaly
The Front Panel Controls
TR Mode of Operation
Nulling the Ferrite Coil
But Does it Actually Work?
Meaning of TOTeM
Construction Details
Conclusion

Her on forum we can still discuss all possible problems you are faced with during construction.

Yes I know , in the book , Qiaozhi trying tech about PD
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I agree
On the book i think you have all tips and information to build a good pd. It´s just a matter of build it, and doing lots of experimentation. But before you build it, get sometime to buried some silver or gold coins, so when time pass you will have a test bed to get your pd tune. You don´t need to be an engenier, just build it and the rest will be experiments to find correct rx frequency, tx frequency and the most important nulling the signal after you find the correct resonant frequency. So get rx resonance frequency first (passive reciever) and after that try to find the correct nulling point.
Doing sparks it can help, but not having a good range of sparks detections, is not a meanning of a wrong correct frequency rx.

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Hi aft_72005, it is still "teach project".

I cannot suggest best approach than use "Inside the Metal Detector" book.
There you have all data, tip and tricks, you need to build, experiment and test Alonso like PD.
No matter if you are believer or sceptic you can start there and build/test your own LRL pistol detector:

Chapter 14: Pistol Detector
Ferrite Receiver
TX Circuit
The Sky and Compass Effects
Detecting the Anomaly
The Front Panel Controls
TR Mode of Operation
Nulling the Ferrite Coil
But Does it Actually Work?
Meaning of TOTeM
Construction Details
Conclusion

Her on forum we can still discuss all possible problems you are faced with during construction.
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