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Old 08-16-2008, 07:29 PM
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Respected Mr. Carl Morland
We are expressing our gratitude for the making of your web site Geotech.thunting.com. We thing positively about the forum at your site, at witch all of the visitors and members can share their opinion and experience.
Besides all of the comments and critics about the analysis of the LRL devices, and your ‘’check, open, take a photo, show and spit’’ attitude, we are proud to present to all of the sceptics and treasure seekers, a new line of device, that in comparison with the other devices, really works efficiently instead of measuring only gravity.
Our status is a manufacturer of LRL equipment, that’s why we are addressing to you with a few questions:
  • Is the challenge still open or it has limited time?
  • Since 2006 there are no registered attempts for the challenge. Where there any competitors or they had been deleted from the site?
  • Is the challenge open only for the manufactures of the list presented on your site (Mineoro, Kellyco, Dell Winders etc.) or we can also apply for the challenge although we are from the Republic of Macedonia (Europe)?
  • Is it possible for the target to be made of aluminium (by our choice), with the purpose of presenting the measuring capabilities compared to the quantities of the searched material?
We are claiming that:
  • We are doing this so we can convince you that the LRL really works and the prize is not a priority.
  • The device is a generator with Lrod antennas for receiving signal line.
  • We’ll be honoured to have you as a guest in our country.
Greetings to all of the forum members.
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Old 08-16-2008, 08:16 PM
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Hi New Master,
To the best of my knowledge, the contest and prize money is still open to anyone in the world who wants to attempt it. An established manufacturer of LRLs has added advantages, in that the test may be performed in your location rather than traveling to a location where Carl specifies. But Carl Moreland is the official source of information on the $25,000 LRL challenge. You can read the details here: http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/...ile=reward.dat

You will see that you must make arrangements with Carl Moreland for the time and place, as well as signing a contract which specifies the terms and binds Carl to pay the prize money if you pass the test. There are several variables that can be written into the contract by mutual agreement, which may or may not permit you to locate aluminum instead of gold or silver. But the answers to these details can be worked out at the time when the contract is written.

I am sure Carl, as well as all the skeptics and LRL proponents are anxious to see a working LRL that can pass his test. Good luck on your quest.

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Old 08-17-2008, 01:43 AM
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Respected Mr. Carl Morland


We are expressing our gratitude for the making of your web site Geotech.thunting.com. We thing positively about the forum at your site, at witch all of the visitors and members can share their opinion and experience.
Besides all of the comments and critics about the analysis of the LRL devices, and your ‘’check, open, take a photo, show and spit’’ attitude, we are proud to present to all of the sceptics and treasure seekers, a new line of device, that in comparison with the other devices, really works efficiently instead of measuring only gravity.
Our status is a manufacturer of LRL equipment, that’s why we are addressing to you with a few questions:
  • Is the challenge still open or it has limited time?
  • Since 2006 there are no registered attempts for the challenge. Where there any competitors or they had been deleted from the site?
  • Is the challenge open only for the manufactures of the list presented on your site (Mineoro, Kellyco, Dell Winders etc.) or we can also apply for the challenge although we are from the Republic of Macedonia (Europe)?
  • Is it possible for the target to be made of aluminium (by our choice), with the purpose of presenting the measuring capabilities compared to the quantities of the searched material?
We are claiming that:
  • We are doing this so we can convince you that the LRL really works and the prize is not a priority.
  • The device is a generator with Lrod antennas for receiving signal line.
  • We’ll be honoured to have you as a guest in our country.
Greetings to all of the forum members.
Hi

The Lrod generators technology are instruments alredy used many times,its not new technology,and it needs experienced person to achieve good results,its not device for eveybody.
I´m good in finding water with Lrods,but i´m very bad in finding treasures with Lrods,anyway i saw people with experience using sucessfully the rods in treasure hunting.
My advice is ,do not enter in any challenge with Lrods,even if they are electronic rods...Auto sugestion will deceive you in any kind of challenge...

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Old 08-17-2008, 03:12 AM
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Hi New Master,

good luck with the challenge.

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Old 08-18-2008, 07:18 AM
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The challenge is still open, but it is unlikely I will be able to visit Macedonia anytime in the near future. Thus far there have only been two interests in the challenge and they both decided to withdraw.

An aluminium target is a curious choice; is this designed as an aluminium detector? Do you have any published information on your locator?

- Carl
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:42 PM
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Why aluminium target? Maybe because they can achieve gold or silver in a X size. If they can't achieve great quantity of gold for the proof, so can make an extended piece of gold (foil) with only few grams.

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Old 08-24-2008, 08:55 PM
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To J Player and FC 247

Thank you for your support. We are very greatfull...
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:05 PM
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To geotech guru MORGAN


The equipment that we are going to present on this test in the letter we gave, is presented like generator + L antenas.
We are emphasizeing this just to be pleased the request that Mr. Carl Morland gave.

This is a LRL device , not some other type of detector.

That means is not a word about generator antenas , it is about standard L antenas without ac or dc power in it and in combination of a perfect type of generator.
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:14 PM
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To Mr. Esteban


We just asked if is allow alluminium target. It was only a question...

We can calibrate our equipment to searching any material .

( eg. glassy bottle of French champagne from l world war ? )
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:09 AM
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We just asked if is allow alluminium target. It was only a question...

We can calibrate our equipment to searching any material .

( eg. glassy bottle of French champagne from l world war ? )
Hi New Master

Can you tell me the distance you can find one single gold coin with your LRL,and if it works the same with fresh buried metals?

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Old 08-31-2008, 09:14 PM
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Hi Morgan,

Any target , coin, ring, or any deposite who has his our MNR ( molecular nuclear resonance) frequency between 4 Khz and 10 Khz the device can locate it on distance of 250 meters.

The searech is circular, equal in every directions , that means 360 *.That is nearly 800m sqr.

Any target who has MNR in the given range the device can locate it no meter if is buried long ago or now. The biger problem is to locate old target made from bronza like roman figures or coins. After a longer period (2000 years) allthaugh the have in there selfs Cu , they lose there conductivity, and that makes the search dificult.

This performances are all put on the device whit wich we wont to participate on this challenge.

The better model than this has a range 2.5 Km distance to the target .

So , the distance is not a problem , becouse our devices DONT HAVE HARMONICS
( Mr. Dell Winters knows what i'm talking about.) :
- there is only one clear signal line...
- NO MORE hot roks...

More infomations will be given soon on our website.

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Old 08-31-2008, 09:22 PM
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Respected Mr.Carl Morland

About your request , we inform you that in this moment , our website is under construction whith one more language support.

Realy soon you will be inform about the site.

regards
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:45 PM
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Hi Morgan,

Any target , coin, ring, or any deposite who has his our MNR ( molecular nuclear resonance) frequency between 4 Khz and 10 Khz the device can locate it on distance of 250 meters.

The searech is circular, equal in every directions , that means 360 *.That is nearly 800m sqr.

Any target who has MNR in the given range the device can locate it no meter if is buried long ago or now. The biger problem is to locate old target made from bronza like roman figures or coins. After a longer period (2000 years) allthaugh the have in there selfs Cu , they lose there conductivity, and that makes the search dificult.

This performances are all put on the device whit wich we wont to participate on this challenge.

The better model than this has a range 2.5 Km distance to the target .

So , the distance is not a problem , becouse our devices DONT HAVE HARMONICS
( Mr. Dell Winters knows what i'm talking about.) :
- there is only one clear signal line...
- NO MORE hot roks...

More infomations will be given soon on our website.

Regards
Hi new Master

This new sistem is very interessant as LRL,if it works as you explain i congratulate you and your TH team.

Regards
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:53 PM
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Hi Morgan,

Any target , coin, ring, or any deposite who has his our MNR ( molecular nuclear resonance) frequency between 4 Khz and 10 Khz the device can locate it on distance of 250 meters.

The searech is circular, equal in every directions , that means 360 *.That is nearly 800m sqr.

Any target who has MNR in the given range the device can locate it no meter if is buried long ago or now. The biger problem is to locate old target made from bronza like roman figures or coins. After a longer period (2000 years) allthaugh the have in there selfs Cu , they lose there conductivity, and that makes the search dificult.

This performances are all put on the device whit wich we wont to participate on this challenge.

The better model than this has a range 2.5 Km distance to the target .

So , the distance is not a problem , becouse our devices DONT HAVE HARMONICS
( Mr. Dell Winters knows what i'm talking about.) :
- there is only one clear signal line...
- NO MORE hot roks...

More infomations will be given soon on our website.

Regards
someone knows the website thanks

best reguards
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Old 11-27-2008, 03:06 PM
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We just asked if is allow alluminium target. It was only a question...

We can calibrate our equipment to searching any material .

( eg. glassy bottle of French champagne from l world war ? )
I wish if you make additional changes so that a bottle of Russian Vodka can also be detected or maybe scotch for those hard drinkers.

I just noticed that your site not set yet.
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I just noticed that your site not set yet.
ever wonder why?

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Old 12-01-2008, 12:18 AM
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Hi New master
congratulations for accepting carl's challenge. if your LRL really works, then a lot of treasure hunters are eager to own that fantastic machine!
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:02 AM
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congratulations for accepting carl's challenge. if your LRL really works, then a lot of treasure hunters are eager to own that fantastic machine!
Don't hold your breath!
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:03 PM
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The Facts About NMR

A common claim with MFD proponents is that "all elements have a natural frequency" and will either resonate with other like elements, or can be made to resonate with a properly tuned signal generator. MFD proponents often point to the fact that all elements have a property called "nuclear magnetic resonance" and, therefore, the concept of resonance is entirely scientific.
Yes, it is true that all elements have an NMR frequency. You can go to WebElements and click on an element, then click the NMR link to the left side. For gold, you will find that the NMR frequency is 1.754000MHz, and that this entry includes the statement "relative to 1H = 100 (MHz)". What does this mean?
It turns out the NMR frequency for any given element is dependent on the static magnetic field the element is exposed to. For gold, the magnetic field that produces an NMR frequency of 1.754MHz is the same field that produces an NMR frequency of 100MHz for hydrogen.
What is this field? With a little effort, you will find the field strength to be roughly 2.35 Teslas. So for hydrogen, 2.35T yields an NMR frequency of 100MHz. 4.7T will result in an NMR frequency of 200MHz. In other words, the NMR frequency is proportional to the magnetic field.
What about the Earth's natural magnetic field? This varies from place-to-place, but 50 microTeslas (uT) is a fair average strength. So the magnetic field strength of 2.35T is a whopping 47,000 times stronger than the Earth's field. Working the other way, we can find that the NMR frequency of hydrogen exposed to the Earth's field is a mere 2.13kHz. And guess what? That's exactly the frequency we get from a proton precession magnetometer! Most PPM's use hydrogen-rich water as the precession medium, and it is the hydrogen that is doing the precessing. Variations in the Earth's field due to iron targets change the precession frequency, exactly because the NMR frequency varies with field strength.
So gold has an NMR frequency of 1.754MHz at 2.35T, which means at 50uT it will have an NMR frequency of only 37 Hz or so. So if any MFD were being true to the NMR property, it would use 37Hz for gold. Not 5kHz. Now, some MFD manufacturers talk about resonating elements at a harmonic (or, sometimes, a "sub-harmonic") frequency. Although 5kHz is roughly the 135th harmonic of 37Hz, it is far, far less efficient to try to resonate something at a harmonic rather than the fundamental. Anyone who has used 3rd overtone crystals is aware of this, and claiming resonance at the 135th harmonic is just plain absurd.
So now that we know what the real frequency of resonance should be, we can proceed with a gold detector, right? Not so fast. Let's go back to the proton mag. How does a PPM detect the precession frequency of water? Well, typically a small bottle of water is placed INSIDE a fairly hefty coil. The coil serves two purposes. First, water just sitting around has its molecules all randomly oriented, so that even if they were "resonating", there would be no net signal due to an overall cancelation of all the little signals. So the coil is hit with a large transient current, which generates a large magnetic field, which serves to align at least some of the water molecules. Then, with the transient field removed, the coil becomes a receiver to detect the very, very weak precession signal from the water.
So in order to utilize NMR, we need to "ping" the target to get it to precess, much like hitting a bell with a clapper. Then, we need a way to detect the precession signal, which is incredibly weak. With PPM, both of these are only accomplished when the water is INSIDE the coil. The same is true with hospital MRI machines... the patient is slid INSIDE a humongous coil.
In the end, the concept of trying to remotely resonate buried targets is just bogus. It is like trying to boil water with a microwave oven, by placing the water 100 meters from the oven, and then running the oven on a 9-volt battery. Ain't gonna happen.
- Carl

But for 0,5T = 100Amper current or For 1,5T Need (=) 300 Amper electrical current.
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I think Carls money will be safe for a long, long time.
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I´m good in finding water with Lrods,but i´m very bad in finding treasures with Lrods,anyway i saw people with experience using sucessfully the rods in treasure hunting.
There are simple explanation why water yes and tresures not.

By underground water there are diferent indicator on vegetation over such place. You do not need rod or such LRLs to find underground water but precise, observant and inventive observers of vegetation. Most people are largely superficial and overlook this tiny but significant details. Some people can observing thous details subconsciously, no matter: with or without LRL. Other can be trained to find water without LRL on vegetation indicators based.

LRL is in these cases, only a device to help concentrate on the envirovement markers detecting, nothing else.

By underground treasures there are in 99% cases no such significant indicator on surface vegetation so you are "very bad in finding treasures".

Stories like this that you "saw people with experience using sucessfully the rods in treasure hunting" are only fairy tale needed to LRL beliver survival.
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Old 07-19-2009, 04:41 PM
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I think Carls money will be safe for a long, long time.
yes safe as stealth bomber
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The challenge is still open, but it is unlikely I will be able to visit Macedonia anytime in the near future. Thus far there have only been two interests in the challenge and they both decided to withdraw.

An aluminium target is a curious choice; is this designed as an aluminium detector? Do you have any published information on your locator?

- Carl

Why not? On your trip to Macedonia you can visit me also, here in Serbia (i would be glad to meet you). It is close....200km.
So...i can demonstrate than to you TGSL detection of single coin at ...... 20cm in soil!!! Wow! Real stuff....not some cosmic stuff like those "nmr" rods or whatever!

We can put some challenge also on TGSL performances! I offer box of beer and $5! Let me hear your offer now! Do you dare!?

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Why not? On your trip to Macedonia you can visit me also, here in Serbia (i would be glad to meet you). It is close....200km.
So...i can demonstrate than to you TGSL detection of single coin at ...... 20cm in soil!!! Wow! Real stuff....not some cosmic stuff like those "nmr" rods or whatever!

We can put some challenge also on TGSL performances! I offer box of beer and $5! Let me hear your offer now! Do you dare!?
Other 200 Km and Carl is at Greece
I will teach him how to locate copper and silver objects with Lrods ( no generator) .
But you Ivica can't learn anything about Lrods because you don't believe at this
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