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Just thought I'd give an update on the FG78.
Talked to the people there and the new units will be ready to be shipped next week. Apparently there are new features which were not advertised initially such as the ionic field reducer for pinpoint a big object which could produce a 300 feet diameter field. Prior to that I had to use a 2 kv generator to depolarize it. Can't wait to try this thing... |
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Hi Hung,
visiting mineoro site see they have changed the sensor from telescopic to old type in FG 78. the question is; what was problem with telescopic antenna? If they have done carefully survey and research, why again did turn back to the old plan? |
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Hi Michael,
You're right. They switched the telescopic antenna project initially planed to an ionic chamber type aerial. But this is not the 'old' ionic chamber per se. It's a new concept which includes infra red inside it. It was developed for the fresh gold detection. This proved to be even more effective than the telescopic antenna concept. I think two models will be available. A one metal (gold) and the 2 metal (silver-gold) version. But I can be wrong. Anyway, I should get one till the end of next week. I'll post my impressions. . Regards. |
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hi to all;
please send for me schematic minero& pcb& part list and coils ![]() i want information about bandido Umax ii .(about depth deting)??? ![]() tank you .good nice . good byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ![]() |
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Anyway I think most of interested guys specially this forum members are very willing to know of your gotten experiences about it. Another thing; If you can make communication with them please ask ;why don't put any new report of new founds by latest models like as GDM 428, GDP 538,Dc 2006 and a Wmv file of how FG78 works? Regards. |
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Michael,
Actually they did not 'made an advanced version' for the FG 78. The old picture which displayed the 'telescopic antenna' was of the prototype. Damasio who is an extremely perfectionist person , besides being a genius in my opinion, is always striving to acomplish the latest state of the art technology on Mineoro detectors. That's why it took a little while for the FG to show up. The new ionic chamber turned to be much more effective than the one with a telescopic aerial. So the first alternative finally went into production. I heard he considered a laser sight but it did not work along with the ionic chamber. Maybe later... You also can see in Mineoro's site that the new models work with only 25 % of ionic field intensity. This is a landmark as previous models only worked with fields well above 50%. Regarding the new findings, it's already there on the site. The FG however is new and the only target found previous to production was the one which served as test target, that is, the almost 2 tons of gold which belonged to a governor. |
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Thanks a lot Hung.
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Anyway please put all of the new results and experiences about latest models specially FG78 and don't deprive us from them. |
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http://www.mineoro.com/tesouros/achados01.htm The DC 2006 was released in the end of january, so it's kind of recent. But I know two guys here in Brazil who found a lot of items in the beach 2 or 3 days in a row in February. Maybe Mineoro did not have the time or bothered to post such items in the site yet... |
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Hello to mineoro owner,
Have you try coating the gold with paint or put in a container with oil on it,or painting it with resin type paint in black color,can the ions still be detected by the mineoro detector specially there new model FG78 and DC2006 series?is there a way to block the ions release by gold to escape detection on mineoro detector?can you try this test for me HUNG and ESTEBAN? Thank you in advance jojo |
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Hi Dears Hung and Esteban .
There is 3 important questions about using mineoro: 1-Wherever the surface of soil has been ploughed for agriculture or be subsoiled, won’t frustrate or demolish the ion field of buried target, then mineoro be not able to detect it? 2- Have you or anybody else who you know, searched and detected in a wooded area without any problem? In other words, don’t the trees induce false signals or forbid and blind the detection? 3- As you had mentioned nearly this;" the mineoro user have to practice and acquire experience to be able to detect appropriately by it..." then, can we deduce; mineoro using is not as simple as the advertised movies in it's site? If you don’t have the answers and can communicate with mineoro inventors, please ask them and consider to these notes especially in your FG78 tests. Your answers will be appreciated. Regards,Michael |
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Hi
1. The removal of soil and target, the electric field dissapears. If the target is more depth respect the ploughed soil, you can detect it. 2. Yes, I have localized a site, forest area, big trees, and the signal is good, but is private property... 3. With the models 205 and 210, the target show a big angle detection, maybe 60º or more. This is the reason why is difficult to find the exact point. Don't know the accuracy of new models, 2006 and FG, I have not yet for to test. Between the days 13 to 16 April I'll go in trip with 2006 or FG model. |
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Thanks a lot dear Esteban.
At least I am impatiently waiting for your new reports of new models. please consider to these notes in your tests. I think other members are as well as waiting for and follow these. |
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If you adjust properly in the limit the 2 knobs, you will find objects, you must be delicate in the adjustment. Remember: small objects only produces microvolts umbalance...
There are only two reason why you never find nothing (always refers the 2 knobs model, no automatic): bad adjustment or failures in the detector. Jim: The signal is good because is very insistent in the point, and the zone is totally free of interference. I want to return in the site with the landlord. Also I ear the property (22 ha = 220.000 m2) is for to sale. |
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Depending on the knid of disturbance on the ionic field and how serious it is, it will take time to recover and build up again. This could vary from a couple of hours to even days, as in the case one uses a regular EM detector on the site which will 'eat up' the ionic fields.
As Esteban said, the PDCs and thenew models for sure don't give false signals. The only other reason it will emit beeps is when an electrical discharge is cloe nearby, such as power lines or thunderbolts. The FG78 is facing a delay but in a few days I will get mine and was invited by Damasio to go with him to test it in an expedition. |
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Hi hung.
When do you exactly will get Fg78 and test it? How long more should we wait??!! |
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Good news for now is that upon talking to Mineoro's Patricia on the phone I was told that this morning she received a notice from someone in Iran who discovered 3 big jars of gold coins weighting aprox. 500Kg using the good old PDC 210. It detected from 2400 feet away. Don't know how deep tough. I think this guy was so happy that he forgot about it... |
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Alright.
I finally got to talk to Damasio after days of seclusion in his lab. I was told that in about ten to twelve days he will either mail me the thing or will come personally to deliver the FG and we will go to some sites I know to test it. He sounded happy on the phone and told me he locked himself in the lab to create a new IC since the stock of ICs previously ordered were not reliable. Some worked and some did not. He could not let the detectors leave the factory this way. He and his team of engineers then created new ICs to use on the FG. This man is restless. Always wanting to improve what already has been improved! As I said, the FG is able to detect gold with humidity rates of over 70%. He told me that this morning, Alonso in Paraguay tested the FG with the new IC and he could pick the governor's treasure (see site) from 400m away with 70% humidity. This is a buried treasure. Remember, for the fresh gold to be picked up by the new FG, that is, gold which is not buried, humidity has to be low, around 40 to 60%. This kind of humidity rate is difficult to be reached close to the seashore here in Rio, but I will give it a try. That's why in their site there's a mention of a new model to be launched which will detect fresh gold with higher humidity tipically found in the litoral. Talking to him, I had a hint that this new model will have two receivers(chambers) with independent circuitry in which the smaller higher humidity receiver will have a more precise detection for fresh gold under these conditions, although distance will decrease a little. The amazing part is that it will employ #54 wire which is one fourth the diameter of a hair ! A 1 Kg of this wire measures 350 Km! Anyway this is pretty much still in the speculation realm and not oficially proclaimed yet... So those are the news. |
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I was also talking about a future new model which will be able to deal with high humidity typically found in areas close to the litoral (seashore). Regarding the wire I talked about, Damasio did not tell me its purpose. He only told me the relative difficulty which he'll encounter to manufacture it. Hence the example comparison of a hair string. My own belief is that this wire is for the internal circuitry and to avoid interferences, since its mass is reduced. That's all I can speak for now. |
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Ah.. There you go..
http://www.mineoro.com/tesouros/achados10.htm 4 meters deep. Those 500 Kg coin jars are worth at least 2 milion dollars. He really hit the jackpot. |
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units and some intact( at least in PDC series). That's why some people got positive results and found 500 KG gold and some other found nothing even 1 gram gold. Dear Hung! Could you please emphasize to Damasio and patricia be careful and pay special attention for every unit will be emitted from firm?(even for Brazilians or other countries),then bitter experiences won't be repeated for some users.as you know these disciplines are very important for their credit. In near future (after getting your results) I will order one FG78 for my country. Do you geuss there may be still some Fg78 for delivey but haven't been used new ICs inside? our main searching areas are in middle east, but we want to be sure of ordered device (safety and working in order) via internet. middle east is one of the most richest of treasures if one has accurate detector,certainly will get positive results more than 3 big jar(500 Kg gold). there are some stories I can't write here. |
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