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11-09-2006, 02:39 AM
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I now own a Mineoro FG80
OK, this might prove Qiaozhi right, that only "dazed and confused" people [spend] their hard earned money on a Mineoro. But I have now bought a Mineoro FG80, because I want to know once and for all if this thing is legit, or more bogus nonsense like every other LRL I've ever seen. My experience with the PDC205 does not fill me with optimism.
No, I am not going to tear into this, at least not for a while. I will run tests and allow Mineoro and their proponents to offer feedback on the techniques and results. When I am done, we will KNOW whether it works. It has been raining here for 2 days, so humidity is essentially 100%. Testing will begin when the air dries out. - Carl 
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11-09-2006, 02:49 AM
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FG-80 test
Thanks Carl for your big efford to help us to see if this machine really works has the factory saids.
I m not very active writing on the forums, but i always have a time to follow all posts. Good luck and we will see whats going on with the FG-80 Best regards from Santiago, CHILE Nelson email:ce3llp@mi.cl
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11-09-2006, 03:16 AM
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Congratulations on your new purchase. Care to share with us on how you came about purchasing the FG80. New…used…factory purchase or whatnot.
Good luck on finding the Lost Confederate Treasure up in your neck-of-the-woods Jim
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11-09-2006, 11:36 AM
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calibration
carl
I own mineoro for 5 months, I noticed that after first calibration it will beeb after about 5 minutes, so you you will need (if it is the same case of my detector) to adjust it again. we are waiting for your report. good luck.
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11-09-2006, 01:33 PM
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One of the targets I detected in the ocean was done in a cloudy/rainy day. It will be taken care of upon my return from expedition. Mosha is right. Turn the detector on, calibrate as usual and wait for about 3 minutes for circuitry warm up and threshold sensing. Then you're set. ******************* Excelent news for Mineoro owners. The first upgrade for the FG80 will be available soon. This upgrade will also automate the calibration sensing feature. That is, it will be no longer needed to calibrate the knob for different threshold detections. The user will only have to turn the switch on and turn the knob fully clockwise to 999. That's it. It will always be set for max sens in all situations. Pinpointing a big target will remain as usual, decreasing the knob until the center is found. Also, Damasio told me he plans to open a workshop/lab in his trip to USA where besides demonstrations of the detectors, he will upgrade 'in loco' devices from users who wish to do so. Well, gotta fly. Lots of things to do. 
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11-09-2006, 02:01 PM
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11-09-2006, 04:18 PM
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I will be impatient to see the results from Carl. He is the most independent and reliable source out there, since there is a lot of conflict and secrets in this technologie... although i already know what will be said from him and from mineoro...
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11-09-2006, 05:27 PM
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Generally a target should be around 10 years buried to build a strong ionic field to be detectable at distance and the deeper the stronger that field also. But if you know where this coin is buried, you have to wait for at least 4 sunny days after raining and set the detector to max sens. Eventually I believe you might get some beeps at about 5 to 7 feet away. Quote:
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11-09-2006, 08:25 PM
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Yes, wait few minutes and adjust in the most sensitive point you can.
"Attack" the area from different places and distances, move the detector slowly right-left, left-right, and study. Sometimes is more easy detect the object from several meters than very near. Best detections occurs with your arm in 90º, horizontal. Also, when you pass over the object. You can search in your patio for to detect other items maybe there are. But best results in inlands, in relics areas as battlefields, far for electric lines. From user's guide: Metals Natural gold or treasures with continued beeps. Also detects small objects with alternated beeps. Eventually silver and copper or alloys.
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11-09-2006, 11:30 PM
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I just hope you've bought the very latest model. There already appears to be an upgrade (according the Mineoro [Hung] Marketing Dept.) and you've barely got it out of the box!  Some possible stumbling blocks you should watch out for are: 1. It doesn't have the correct number of knobs. 2. The detector was accidently fitted with substandard components that somehow managed to evade the Mineoro Q.A. Dept. 3. You're not pointing it in a North/South direction. 4. The humidity is too high. 5. You're wearing nylon undergarments. 6. There's an "R" in the month. (OK - I made that one up.)  7. The gold target is not buried deep enough, or not buried for at least 10 years. 8. You're either standing too close or too far away from the target. Perhaps the FG80 is based on some Quantum Mechanical priniciple. Let's hope not. Otherwise the skeptic mentality could actually stop it working just by looking at it. With all the uncertainity, Heisenberg would be spinning in his grave if he could see this stuff. I'm "watching" with interest. Hopefully this won't affect the results.
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11-10-2006, 01:42 AM
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Good going Carl!
Carl,
I too await your test results. At last the truth will come out once and for all. You would think if these units are so good, the people who bought these would be rich beyond belief not to mention all the demonstrations to the curious. From the Geophsics books I own, it appears that Spectral Induced Polarization is going to be the best way to find treasure as it goes by the grain size of the material. Dr. Erika Gasperikova's got a paper on S.I.P. using Natural Fields. I guess you could make a hand held unit which might qualify as an LRL and compete with Mineoro-do you think it would work? Randy
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11-10-2006, 12:04 PM
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By saying that you implicitly state that Esteban and I are LIARS?! We use these detectors for a long time and we have always stated the TRUTH. The truth is known for a long time already and the proof is in the pictures we have posted. But in your case, maybe the truth will be never disclosed indeed, even if it's rubbed in your face.
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11-10-2006, 05:56 PM
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What folks want is a fair & balanced look at a Mineoro. Does it work? Under what conditions & limitations? Or does it just beep randomly? Now, folks might also question my objectivity as well. After all, I'm clearly a skeptic of LRLs, and very vocal about it. But that's because I've never ever seen one work, even in the hands of so-called experts. If I find one that works, I'll certainly say so. - Carl
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11-10-2006, 06:34 PM
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This implies they were ready for the upgrade.If they had such a plan for upgrade, would be suitable to inform us or at least would wait and send the latest. What's their policy?!! what a ....
for me it's impossible to turn it back for upgrade. 
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11-10-2006, 07:08 PM
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Michael: He said he was offered an upgrade. It does not mean at present time however. As far as I know the upgrade is still in beta testing.
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11-11-2006, 10:39 PM
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Time for TRUTH!!!
"Care to share with us on how you came about purchasing the FG80. New…used…factory purchase or whatnot..." "No, I'd rather not... doesn't really matter..." I hope you didnt waste any money on that!? You can not be such rich man to waste money like that? If i had millions of $..i still wont buy that trash! I'll rather spend money on "chicks" arround....like Hefner..... Quiaozhi made points there! So right and true! I agree 100% !!! .......... "By saying that you implicitly state that Esteban and I are LIARS?!" Or something else.....Lunatics,dreamers.....Who knows? Or maybe "choosen one" in which hands everything works!? The world is full with miracles...these days! ................. Carl:"Mineoro has contacted me and offered the upgrade for free. " Better that than $25 000 ! Somehow they trying to "buy" you Carl! Ha,ha,ha.... Carl:"Now, folks might also question my objectivity as well...." So far NOT! But as an "stainless steel-sceptic" I am always awaken and ready to recheck everybody....mostoften myself too! I am a bit suspicious about your sudden rise of interest on FG80?!? What's cooking doc? They offer you a lot of money...??? (this supposed to be a joke...) ...................... Michael: "This implies they were ready for the upgrade.If they had such a plan for upgrade, would be suitable to inform us or at least would wait and send the latest. What's their policy?!! what a ...." Michael if you look in their list of products so far....well....you'll see a hundreds of models they produced so far....Nobody can compete them! Just compare their production results with some other....like Fisher,Whites,Minelab....Ha,ha,ha.. They producing models like TV soaps....Ha,ha,ha.... But if you look more closer, you'll find out that all devices are almost the same inside.... With more or less components inside (nonsenced wired up..).... All that shows very cleary their intentions to earn much money.....People have short memory... One already "spitted" model which everybody knows as bogus, they easy change in another with quite different name so new naives becomes cutomers easy.... ............................. "The fact I admire Mineoro's work does not necessarly mean I am allowed to lie or cheat about / for them." THE FACT I ADMIRE MY WIFE DOES NOT NECESSARLY MEAN I AM NOT ALLOWED TO LIE AND CHEAT HER.... BUT I JUST CAN NOT HELP IT....OFTENLY I AM LOOKING AND CHASING GIRLS ARROUND....HUH! ............................ Now serious; Carl it is very good that you have FG80....It will be so interesting to read your observations about it. Do not wait sunny days. Start with experiments now,when raining. Later when sunny, you may repeat tests and see the differences.... So far it showed that you are not liar, man can trust your judgements. Let's stay that way. Also you do not suffer from prejudices which is very important here. I am looking forward to read your posts on this subject! Best regards
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11-12-2006, 07:44 PM
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I think what most denizens feel is that you in particular, and Esteban to a much lesser degree, come across as spokesmen for Mineoro.
I'm waiting for a FG 80 for to try intensive by myself. If I achieve the upgrade, better.
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11-12-2006, 09:50 PM
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Carl Moreland - body snatcher!
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11-13-2006, 01:17 PM
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11-13-2006, 06:10 PM
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Bad Testing Methods;
Carl, Go ahead and take it to a graveyard. In my testing the thing beeped EVERYWHERE or not at all ?
I assumed you already had a large test patch to test all the devices you have already passed judgement on ? Now, you are telling us that you have only a couple of coins buried for any length of time ? I must say that your testing is looking weaker and weaker as time goes on. Besides tearing into things how did you perform all your other extensive testing ? How can you even offer this big challenge and you only have a couple of coins buried ? Seems you should have put in an extensive test plot BEFORE you started all of your opinions. Just something I observed. It appears that even Mr. Dell might be correct in his evaluation of your methods. That is VERY funny ! VCRB
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