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Old 11-28-2012, 12:07 PM
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Blind believers do not need answers. They even do not read answers, cause they are blind.
Don't distort statements, right is this : Blind Skeptics can't answer, they even don't open their eyes, cause they are blind.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:51 PM
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Don't distort statements, right is this : Blind Skeptics can't answer, they even don't open their eyes, cause they are blind.
You forgot that "blind skeptics" do not even exist.

If "blind skeptics" existed, they would have been blind believers, but they are not, cause they are simple skeptics with very open eyes and mind.

But skeptics strictly advocated double blind test, which is nightmare to blind believers.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:35 PM
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It is not advisable to be blind.
Not at all!
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Old 11-28-2012, 02:11 PM
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Sneshko Wow, I'd given up his treasures, one of the two in the picture.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:10 PM
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It is not advisable to be blind.
Not at all!
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Nice PDK propaganda

but i thought PDK cant work in the ocean and salt water...
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:19 PM
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You forgot that "blind skeptics" do not even exist.

If "blind skeptics" existed, they would have been blind believers, but they are not, cause they are simple skeptics with very open eyes and mind.

But skeptics strictly advocated double blind test, which is nightmare to blind believers.

Every sceptic can go to Morgan place and make double or triplle test. No problem for blind test if you construct a place with phenomenon.
Morgan called all of you but not response. You like to seat at your armchair and to write as the "big sceptics" but you don't know nothing.
Every time that you will say again for Randi test the answer will be simple, "go to Morgan for test".
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:21 PM
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Nice PDK propaganda

but i thought PDK cant work in the ocean and salt water...
Don't say this.....
Maybe it is time to hear the sceptics about the existing the phenomenon inside the water or not.
I think that i know the answer
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:05 PM
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You forgot that "blind skeptics" do not even exist.

If "blind skeptics" existed, they would have been blind believers, but they are not, cause they are simple skeptics with very open eyes and mind.

But skeptics strictly advocated double blind test, which is nightmare to blind believers.
My answer was the same what Geo mentioned, but he sooner put it: "Go To Morgan For Test" , so your answer to this and his invitation?
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:21 AM
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My answer was the same what Geo mentioned, but he sooner put it: "Go To Morgan For Test" , so your answer to this and his invitation?
Yes,invitation is open for PDK test,no hide transmitters.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:53 AM
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Yes,invitation is open for PDK test,no hide transmitters.
There is a problem. If they come to Portugal and see that there is not any trik and the PDK works ok as LRL then what they will write???? Science have not prove it....

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Old 11-29-2012, 10:26 AM
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Yes,invitation is open for PDK test,no hide transmitters.
So ... in Portugal has everything and anything.



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Old 11-29-2012, 12:23 PM
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So ... in Portugal has everything and anything.

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Someone's been playing around with either PhotoShop or Gimp.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:25 PM
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Someone's been playing around with either PhotoShop or Gimp.
...Maybe, dear Qiaozhi, maybe ...
...Illusions are a strange thing ...
Illusions are the most beautiful when they are harmless!





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Old 11-29-2012, 04:04 PM
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Someone's been playing around with either PhotoShop or Gimp.
Thats realy nice,i keep some of this photos to my archive .
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:09 PM
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So ... in Portugal has everything and anything.



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The propaganda is excelent,most of them found the treasure !!!
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:29 PM
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There is a problem. If they come to Portugal and see that there is not any trik and the PDK works ok as LRL then what they will write???? Science have not prove it....

Regards
Geo, right question is what will be excuse, if PDK will not work in real test.

I can imagine some of those excuse:

"PDK is working on targets buried at least 300 years and more only."

"Humidity was too high and grass too green"

"PDK is not working in front of sceptic."

etc.

I am willing to prepare real test and go to Portugal for real test, but strictly under my conditions, no tricky behaviour allowed. If we agree in test propositions and procedure then, no problem to undergone it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:24 PM
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Wow, the first victim of PDK.
Im sorry Goranspeed you have this bad expirence with PDK.
I thank God for stop me to buy PDK and this was because when Morgan said it started to fail in his country after they migrate analog tv to digital tv, doubs came to my mind and also i asked how a PDK salesman can be to shure that his device will work in other countries when he is not shure how realy his PDK is working on his own land?
Also if this is not well proved by scince, how can be shure it will work in other countries.
May be is working on the lab or on the builder city, but not in other places.
In conclusion, to risky to be thru.
This is to Morgan:
Morgan, understand that if you are not shure of how PDK will work away of your country, it will be almost imposible to do buissness with PDK. Is better to star sharing information, so this way members of the forum can work together on PDK or similar devices. And about buissness, forget about it or at least remeber that always are people not like you, me and other members that will requiest from you to build a PDK, because they are not skilled in electronics. So kepping in secret all this make non sense at all.
I m a hamradio operator, and i have years and years building and designnig antennas, and bealive me or not i have many hams that request me to build diferent kind of antennas that if they like, can build because antennas sketches are all around internet, but some people don´t have time to build antenas, or don´t like to build it or simple don´t know how to build an antenna. Well with PDK is the same, if you post all information, take for shure your buissness will not stop, it will grow, because with the work and conclusions of all members, you will get a better PDK to sale.

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Morgan, put a little ball on the ground. So it say to us, if you are nervous. I never blamed you for anything, but I'm just saying that your machine simply does not work for me. That's it. And of course, I will not pay you back, because I sold it. After all, I 450EUR means nothing, because I threw a lot of money for various things. I sincerely hope that someone will help the PDK.

PS Do not worry, no one's going to steal a license
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:33 PM
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Wow, the first victim of PDK.
Im sorry Goranspeed you have this bad expirence with PDK.
I thank God for stop me to buy PDK and this was because when Morgan said it started to fail in his country after they migrate analog tv to digital tv, doubs came to my mind and also i asked how a PDK salesman can be to shure that his device will work in other countries when he is not shure how realy his PDK is working on his own land?
Also if this is not well proved by scince, how can be shure it will work in other countries.
May be is working on the lab or on the builder city, but not in other places.
In conclusion, to risky to be thru.
This is to Morgan:
Morgan, understand that if you are not shure of how PDK will work away of your country, it will be almost imposible to do buissness with PDK. Is better to star sharing information, so this way members of the forum can work together on PDK or similar devices. And about buissness, forget about it or at least remeber that always are people not like you, me and other members that will requiest from you to build a PDK, because they are not skilled in electronics. So kepping in secret all this make non sense at all.
I m a hamradio operator, and i have years and years building and designnig antennas, and bealive me or not i have many hams that request me to build diferent kind of antennas that if they like, can build because antennas sketches are all around internet, but some people don´t have time to build antenas, or don´t like to build it or simple don´t know how to build an antenna. Well with PDK is the same, if you post all information, take for shure your buissness will not stop, it will grow, because with the work and conclusions of all members, you will get a better PDK to sale.

Nelson
Hi Nelson

I dont know how many times i told in this forum that i not build PDK´s anymore,i think told this to J_P some time ago.
Not understand why you think i still building PDK´s...

BTW : what happen to Goran is one thing,and lets see if the other person who buy this PDK have similar results,to confirm what Goran said.

One rare silver coin was found recently in greece with PDK-2.1, distance was 7 m and deep 40 cm,but this coin is large 3,50 cm,not the tiny little coins Goran was looking for.

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Old 11-30-2012, 11:37 PM
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Hi Nelson

I dont know how many times i told in this forum that i not build PDK´s anymore,i think told this to J_P some time ago.
Not understand why you think i still building PDK´s...

BTW : what happen to Goran is one thing,and lets see if the other person who buy this PDK have similar results,to confirm what Goran said.

One rare silver coin was found recently in greece with PDK-2.1, distance was 7 m and deep 40 cm,but this coin is large 3,50 cm,not the tiny little coins Goran was looking for.

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Here is the list of person who buy PDK-2.1 and told me not found gold yet :

Geost12
Sood
Goran

but there are much more that have more lucky...
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:40 PM
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Here is the list of person who buy PDK-2.1 and told me not found gold yet :

Geost12
Sood
Goran

but there are much more that have more lucky...

Should i need to build some magical LRL device that materialize buried gold in the owners garden ?...
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:53 PM
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Wow, the first victim of PDK.
Im sorry Goranspeed you have this bad expirence with PDK.
I thank God for stop me to buy PDK and this was because when Morgan said it started to fail in his country after they migrate analog tv to digital tv, doubs came to my mind and also i asked how a PDK salesman can be to shure that his device will work in other countries when he is not shure how realy his PDK is working on his own land?
Also if this is not well proved by scince, how can be shure it will work in other countries.
May be is working on the lab or on the builder city, but not in other places.
In conclusion, to risky to be thru.
This is to Morgan:
Morgan, understand that if you are not shure of how PDK will work away of your country, it will be almost imposible to do buissness with PDK. Is better to star sharing information, so this way members of the forum can work together on PDK or similar devices. And about buissness, forget about it or at least remeber that always are people not like you, me and other members that will requiest from you to build a PDK, because they are not skilled in electronics. So kepping in secret all this make non sense at all.
I m a hamradio operator, and i have years and years building and designnig antennas, and bealive me or not i have many hams that request me to build diferent kind of antennas that if they like, can build because antennas sketches are all around internet, but some people don´t have time to build antenas, or don´t like to build it or simple don´t know how to build an antenna. Well with PDK is the same, if you post all information, take for shure your buissness will not stop, it will grow, because with the work and conclusions of all members, you will get a better PDK to sale.

Nelson
But i go to build one more PDK, i have order from the midle world,guess who is asking me to build one PDK ?


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Old 12-01-2012, 08:35 AM
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Geo, right question is what will be excuse, if PDK will not work in real test.

I can imagine some of those excuse:

"PDK is working on targets buried at least 300 years and more only."

"Humidity was too high and grass too green"

"PDK is not working in front of sceptic."

etc.

I am willing to prepare real test and go to Portugal for real test, but strictly under my conditions, no tricky behaviour allowed. If we agree in test propositions and procedure then, no problem to undergone it.
Hi WM6.
I agree with you that you must make the test with good conditions. I believe that Morgan has not problem to help you about it. Speak with him......
PDK has it own condition so you must do the test under these conditions. I will be glad if you will go to Portugal for test. It is time for all of us to understand what is the phenomenon.

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Old 12-01-2012, 12:46 PM
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I'm still waiting for someone to replicate the TOTeM pistol detector.
Who is going to be first to report back with some test results?
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:57 PM
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I'm still waiting for someone to replicate the TOTeM pistol detector.
Who is going to be first to report back with some test results?
It appears TOTeM was not advertised properly. Scroll up and see...

Where are the photos of the bikini girl holding the TOTeM?
Where is the pirate finding treasure with the TOTeM?
Where is the fake explanation saying it will locate a magnetic anomaly phenomenon?

In fact, I have never seen a TOTeM in the same image were there is gold shown...
Go to any LRL web page to see some tips for proper advertising.


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Old 12-01-2012, 05:35 PM
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It appears TOTeM was not advertised properly. Scroll up and see...

Where are the photos of the bikini girl holding the TOTeM?
Where is the pirate finding treasure with the TOTeM?
Where is the fake explanation saying it will locate a magnetic anomaly phenomenon?

In fact, I have never seen a TOTeM in the same image were there is gold shown...
Go to any LRL web page to see some tips for proper advertising.


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Perhaps you are correct ... BUT, I am not making any claims for TOTeM, except that it is an experimental platform to allow people to investigate the technology behind the PDK-type designs. It's up to each individual to decide whether these devices can be used to recover gold or not.

Quoting the Conclusion section for Chapter 14:

Unlike the original PD, the TOTeM project is easily replicated with a little care
and attention. It easily passes all the laboratory-based tests used by LRL experiment-
ers, and certainly appears to react in the same way as the device shown in the internet
videos. Whether it will lead you to treasure or not is maybe another story, but at least
you will have the opportunity to explore the pseudo-scientific world of long range
locators for yourself, and make up your own mind on the matter.
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