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Old 05-22-2020, 11:19 PM
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Camera + IR LEDs + LENS +Filter +external radiowaves is NOT FAKE

The use of ir leds is just to hide there is external radiowaves

and any digital camera can do it
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:38 PM
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I confirm this camera is true.
You can only try now its free project now.
Before we sell it and we keep secret.



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Dear Mr. Nicolas kindly please tell me what is the contradict you mention about this topic?

once you said is true and you sent to us your webpage that you are selling this camera as the link above .. and your webpage is about selling instruments and all type of apparatus including this same camera with IR LEDs I don't understand...
if you are selling this camera then how come you are saying it is fack?

one more thing honestly I mentioned this topic to share my achievement with you guys at the same time to encourage any of you to do the same but it looks like from the talk we have maybe four Gentelmens with very good knowledge about this camera and it is obvious they are not sharing their secrets...
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:11 AM
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Camera + IR LEDs + LENS +Filter +external radiowaves is NOT FAKE

do you have any idea about the rf source ?
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:17 AM
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The use of ir leds is just to hide there is external radiowaves

and any digital camera can do it
YES COULD BE AS A METAR OF FACT is the filter that blocks the visible range we are using

I agree that IR LEDS are only for the excitation of the surface the other excitation thanks to you mentioning max 8GHZ
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:28 AM
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Believed It. Wherever the Arabs come, ruin occurs
Indeed, where the Arabs are, you see only negative thinking, hatred and cunning
IHAVE MANY FRIENDS Arabs Americans Iranians, Latinos, and Chinese, and and
and i have many friends from Jordan they are so Generous and friendly people I have been to Petra last year, amazing people give it a try and see yourself Amigo

it is a not correct to mention a whole nation in such a way because of a bad experience with some... anyway

Dear members is it a topic about politics?
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do you have any idea about the rf source ?
according to my study to this case im still trying to detect the orignal source of frequency transmitted to the location where i did my tests as i mentioned before

could be the cellphone tower
Satellites..Orbital ones or military
Telecommunications in general
The Sun
Radio frequencies from short wave to FM
etc..

i noted most GPRs talking about best penetration range is within the Microwave

you guys wait for my experiment on this...
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:36 AM
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''He sends RF from External source, which excite the image to fly , from underground up to the Camera.''

You say that Send 8Ghz RF with Coil Antenna , near Camera or with Coil around Camera , in also time this is Pulse and with Modulation for Resonant Frequency of search Metal .
No no this Sending is with Satelite and .....
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''He sends RF from External source, which excite the image to fly , from underground up to the Camera.''

You say that Send 8Ghz RF with Coil Antenna , near Camera or with Coil around Camera , in also time this is Pulse and with Modulation for Resonant Frequency of search Metal .
No no this Sending is with Satelite and .....
He sends RF from External source, which excite the image to fly , from underground up to the Camera


yes this is the hidden secret
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He sends RF from External source, which excite the image to fly , from underground up to the Camera


yes this is the hidden secret


I'm sure this is correct

because CCD image until now has a higher resolution than Thermal camera and GPR's all are ACTIVE systems means they must give something so you can obtain ..

we know that lower IR wavelength reaching microwave only a new Cameras Thermal" can see this freq and with a bad resolution but more accuracy for GPRs using radar so infrared camera can also see higher resolution but no accuracy " till now" simply do you guys know the Xray...sure yes the imaging device hooked to the new X-ray medical is CCD plus the Plates.
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I believe if I stand next to this Gamma or Xray Scanner and grab my camera I will obtain the same image at the fin of this giant device also is attached to CCD camera
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according to my study to this case im still trying to detect the orignal source of frequency transmitted to the location where i did my tests as i mentioned before

could be the cellphone tower
Satellites..Orbital ones or military
Telecommunications in general
The Sun
Radio frequencies from short wave to FM
etc..

i noted most GPRs talking about best penetration range is within the Microwave

you guys wait for my experiment on this...

there is relationship between the rf and the imaging underground after deep studding and calculations and researching of the physic of light and waves and lens i found that the rf is about 8ghz with some mw of power
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Old 05-23-2020, 01:24 AM
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I believe if I stand next to this Gamma or Xray Scanner and grab my camera I will obtain the same image at fin this giant device also is attached to CCD camera
there is no gamma or xray its rf just

xray and gamma harmful causes a lot health issues to human body even in their minimum ranges
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there is relationship between the rf and the imaging underground after deep studding and calculations and researching of the physic of light and waves and lens i found that the rf is about 8ghz with some mw of power
great I will but this in consideration on my next test and sure ill let you know the result

tks.
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Old 05-23-2020, 01:39 AM
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One more important thing guys...
conclusion

remember that many tests failed and I wasn't able to see anything,, this proves that the other frequency that excites the voids and metal or whatever you see underground simply is turned off...

this is my conclusion is how such a simple camera can do this!

so inorder you need to do this camera with confidence that can work always at any time you need to have your external transmitter with you...
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Old 05-23-2020, 01:56 AM
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When you send 8Ghz - RF (3,75 cm Wavelength) to Ground with Spiral Coil , it will penetrade and will Reflected from Object with same wavelenght (3.75cm) to Camera objective , but here we Camera not will Receive this wavelenght , because is in ''Cm'' Band,
but we Camera Receive ''nm'' band , this info is wrong . :не не:
You need send Freq. to ground , only from band of Receiver Sensor .
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:06 AM
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One more important thing guys...
conclusion

remember that many tests failed and I wasn't able to see anything,, this proves that the other frequency that excites the voids and metal or whatever you see underground simply is turned off...

this is my conclusion is how such a simple camera can do this!

so inorder you need to do this camera with confidence that can work always at any time you need to have your external transmitter with you...

thats true in your pocket you have to carry your sender thats why the secret of the man was not spread out
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:07 AM
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Dear the frequency you send above the ground has a speed of light in air that is a little less than the speed of light in Vacuum, so when this wave enters the soil,,, everything will change the refractive index is much higher than glass "speed of light in glass is almost droops 30%" so the wavelength and wavenumber also will be dramatically changed. then when the wave finds air and leaves the medium it will pick up the full velocity again carrying a shape of reflected surface..this is the main reason how LENSs work is the change of speed of light.

if the speed of light is a constant concave lens or convex all will give the same image ...
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When you send 8Ghz - RF (3,75 cm Wavelength) to Ground with Spiral Coil , it will penetrade and will Reflected from Object with same wavelenght (3.75cm) to Camera objective , but here we Camera not will Receive this wavelenght , because is in ''Cm'' Band,
but we Camera Receive ''nm'' band , this info is wrong . :не не:
You need send Freq. to ground , only from band of Receiver Sensor .

you are very great and you start to turn around the answer how could 4 cm meter wave been visible there is some way keep on man
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When you send 8Ghz - RF (3,75 cm Wavelength) to Ground with Spiral Coil , it will penetrate and will Reflected from Object with same wavelenght (3.75cm) to Camera objective , but here we Camera not will Receive this wavelenght , because is in ''Cm'' Band,
but we Camera Receive ''nm'' band , this info is wrong . :не не:
You need send Freq. to ground , only from band of Receiver Sensor .

this is not correct.. please check the Underground telecommunication books,,
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One more important thing guys...
conclusion

remember that many tests failed and I wasn't able to see anything,, this proves that the other frequency that excites the voids and metal or whatever you see underground simply is turned off...

this is my conclusion is how such a simple camera can do this!

so inorder you need to do this camera with confidence that can work always at any time you need to have your external transmitter with you...
Your last opinion or suggestion is for build of underground Camera with
Camera + IR LEDs + LENS +Filter + External 8Ghz Radiowave Transmitter .
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i never mentioned the 8GHz but I said i will try as MR Jafal said so.

I think the wavelength of this freq inside the soil could become negatively refracted underground
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you are very great and you start to turn around the answer how could 4 cm meter wave been visible there is some way keep on man
Yes , you now will says that get İmage when send Audio or only Hz band which wavelenght is meter . When send anyone wave , it not convert to other wave , only few delays , but every time stay in also wavelenght , if is in Photons mode Yes , but converting of wavelenght from ''cm'' to ''nm'' spontaneously not is correct .

Also work GPR Radar Metal Detector , Tx-Rx is also but only with small delay , if sending was Light Photons instead RF , so is Yes .
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i never mentioned the 8GHz but I said i will try as MR Jafal said so.

I think the wavelength of this freq inside the soil could become negatively refracted underground

Will Reflected from Ghz to Thz band wave ?? so Hard .

Reflectin from Thz to Ghz -Yes ,but from Hz or Ghz to Thz - No . (if have harmonics, it will be with very small reflection )
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Yes , you now will says that get İmage when send Audio or only Hz band which wavelenght is meter . When send anyone wave , it not convert to other wave , only few delays , but every time stay in also wavelenght , but converting of wavelenght from ''cm'' to ''nm'' spontaneously not is correct .


not every thing goes 1+1=2 there is a lot of invisible things surround us

see this video


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Yes , you now will says that get İmage when send Audio or only Hz band which wavelenght is meter . When send anyone wave , it not convert to other wave , only few delays , but every time stay in also wavelenght , but converting of wavelenght from ''cm'' to ''nm'' spontaneously not is correct.
in a way yes correct but if you get to measure the wavelength and wave numbers inside a medium you'll note the change but again when the waves are transmitted "leaving the object to the Otherside" the wave will return to it's original as the source
in our issue we are not receiving the image outside the ground all of the cameras the sony's and or the LEDwebcam are focusing a subsurface, in other words, the focal distance of the camera of the lens went almost 1mm subsurface so any object gets in between them camera will not see that image because CCD can only see true images not virtual again our focal point is under the surface looking at wavelength thaT CAN SEE in the Nm range

this is why the guys with sony cameras must zoom in almost near the end and their hand is about 20cm above the ground in the normal case the camera sony can never see anything with this zoom at that small distance,
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