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Old 12-11-2011, 05:01 PM
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Very good, i will try to make it a little better
Thanks Geo.
I still find it hard to understand Morgan's translation.
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Old 12-11-2011, 05:29 PM
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geo ξεκινα μεταφραση
δεν γνωριζω το μελος rubin αλλα για τον g-sani εχω να συμπληρωσω οτι ειναι αναξιος εμπιστοσυνης και μεχρι τωρα τα βηματα που εχη κανη ειναι η πλαγια διαφήμιση αποστατικων μηχανηματων και του PD και τωρα του CRYPTON
οταν ξεκινησε με εναν φιλο μου να λενε για το πιστολι τους εμπιστευθηκα,και εγω ο ιδιος επεσα στα διχτυα της παραπλανησης,μετα απο λιγο καιρο και εφοσον δεν απαντουσαν στα τηλεφωνα μου,εγραψε μεσα στο ελληνικο φορουμ να τον διαγραψω απο μελος γιατι κινδυνευη σωματικα
αλλο ενα παραμυθακι απο τα συνηθισμενα τους
και εχω την απορια αφου δεν πουλα ο ανδρεας πως βρεθηκαν αυτα στα χερια τους και γιατι οταν ζητησα επισημα δοκιμη απο το ελληνικο φορουμ του μηχανηματος δεν δεχθηκαν
απλες αποριες εχω σχετικα με το ολο σκηνικο που παιζεται ακομα στο εδω φορουμ
οσο για το κυκλωμα που αναφερη ο γιωργος 90% ειναι το σωστο και αφηνω ανοιχτο ενα 10% σε περιπτωση λαθους
και το ερωτημα σε ολους τους τεχνικους εδω μεσα ειναι πως μπορουμε να κανουμε εκπομπη συχνοτητων vlf και ληψη με υπέρυθρες? οταν η ληψη ειναι τοπικη η χρειαζεται ενα δικτυο υπερυθρων για να ξεπεραστουν τα εμποδια,οπως τα μικρα λοφακια,τα δενδρα.οι θαμνοι?
Here is the translation by me...... i want to believe that it is right.
One note by me.... both members Goldmaniac and Gsani are friends of me, so i don't make any comment.

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""""""Geo begins translation
I do not know the member rubin, but for the g-sani I have to add that is unworthy of confidence, and so far the steps he has done is the side advertising of lrls , of PD and now of the CRYPTON.
When he started with a friend of me to says for the PD, i trusted them, and I fell into nets of deception, after a while, and when he stoped to answer the phones, he wrote in the GREEK Forum to delete him from member because he threatened physically.
Another fairy tales from their usual.
I wonder since Andreas do not sell the crypton, how it found in their hands and when I asked for a formal testing of the machine from the GREEK forum, Andreas did not accept.
I have simple questions about the whole thing who still playing here in this forum.
As for the circuit referred George (Geo)90% is right and i leave open a 10% in case of error.
And the question in all technical here is... how we can make emission at vlf frequencies and infrared reception if the signal is local????, or needs a network of infrared to overcome obstacles, such as small hills, the trees, the shrubs ..etc""""""
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Old 12-11-2011, 05:53 PM
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Listen goldmanic, you say things the way you like and I don't really want to conflict whith you because I see it as a waste of time.If you want to defend your friend Geo just do it as a gentleman because this time you show your bad attitude in an international forum.
Apart from this and because you use my name and you talk about things you are dreaming I have to ask you to put here the proof that I have asked you in the past to whithdraw my membership from your forum. Why somebody will ask you for that when he can always just stop participating in the forum?
There is no need for that so don't show your stupidity everywhere. I just said I am giving up as an active member because I don't like any more the way things go.
Also I never said I was threatened from anybody but I said that I got fed up from all this talking and gossips behind other peoples back because this is not my practice.
I prefer people talking straight and every member should be equally the same from an Administrator no matter what.
When it comes to the PD that Vasilis made I just said that I know him because he comes from the place I live and I talked about my experience whith his PD when this guy came over to see me and demonstrated it to me. I didn't say that I tested it myself although I did it sometime later on.
It was you goldmaniac that called begging me to tell a word to Vasilis about your willingness to sell his PD through your forum. Did you know me in person? Did we ever meet and I don't remember?
So what is this you are saying that I was not answering your calls? May be you were calling others that they didn't want to talk you(I don't blame them) and you are throwing this here as well.
Have you been drinking ouzo myfriend?
I believe that it is very obvious for everybody to understand why you called me but since you started I have to defend myself by also prooving what I am saying.
You cannot proove that I have ever been to any kind of advesrtising Vasilis PD and you cannot proove that I have never been together whith Vasilis to any of his demonstrations to your friends(you know they are so many) which they liked and bought the PD on the spot at the same time each demo took place.
So are you feeling bad because your friends bought from Vasilis or you are feeling bad because your friends money went to Vasilis pocket instead of yours?
Vasilis was the only man that demonstrated his LRL every time somebody asked for it just before buying. So you have to wash your mouth very well every time you spell his name to other people.
Here comes the proof to your story my friend and it is still there for all members to see if they are lucky before you delete them.
So I remember yourself goldmaniac selling LRLs through your site which you were selling complete or as a kit. You want proofs for that? I am putting the links bellow for everybody to see.
1. http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3541
It is a thread opened from you selling PD kits at a better price.
Here you say that 4000 euros for Vasilis Pd is so much so please get mine as a kit at
250 which in other words means... "I sell just for a smaller profit"
2. http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3615
This is another thread opened from you selling some other LRL in two available
options.As a complete made machine and also as a kit. You state the price
of 350+50for batteries for a ready to go LRL detector and 250+50 for a kit.
Need more? Anybody can find more if he just check your posts in the Greek forum.
I think that this is enough evidence for everybody to understand which one is doing what, you or me.
I have never criticised yourself and you surprised me while you are advertising me this way in this forum.
There is also something else that just came into my mind.
If this is the case whith me then why you didn't say all these compliments for me in the Greek forum and when things were also fresh that time?
I tell you why myself because I know you are a bit of a shy person to answer yourself my question.
All members of the Greek forum would throw stones to you this is why.You came here that people don't know what was happening in your shop-forum thinking that because they cannot go and read greek in the Greek forum then they would believe your stories and your lousy lies. Is it this video you saw in my thread "Testing Crypton" that remind you of Andrea and you sudenly felt the same way you felt whith Vasilis when he sold many PDs whithout you involved in his bussiness?
But why now and here when you are not even able to read English properly?
Is it somebody translating you everyday all our posts?
Computer translators are not good anyway.
Did anybody gave you an operational manual or advice of what to do and write?
Was it a bad dream you saw last night?
May be your sales are not that good whith all this Greek crisis and you thought that it is right for you to come over here disadvertising other peoples bussiness and may be you will have some customers back to you whith your better prices.
You also forget my friend that when it comes to Crypton it is a company behind giving guarantees and receipts when you are a 'nobody' and a tax free salesman using your forum as a shop.
I don't know how many Cryptons is arround but mine I stated clearly that it was one offered to me for tests when you and your companions didn't accept the offer made to you of Mr Andreas the designer of the detector.
Did you forget when you refused the offer because a week or so it was not enough for you to test it? Did you forget that your friend was there when Andreas twice or may be three times out of 4-5 found artifacts or coins in a place that your friends chosen?
Hhhhhmmmm.... now I see. You only remember what you like but I am here to refresh your memory in a practical proof safe manner.
As you see my friend the silly behaviour of yours and from some others is the ones I can easily uncover and present them over here whith facts and proofs for everybody to see when you cannot proove anything of what you are saying for me.
There are so many posts from you and your friends in your forum accusing many other members saying that they are taking money to advertise some detectors from others but you are always doing this whithout showing any facts or proofs the same way you are doing now. Is this your sale policy?
I can easily ask many members of the Greek forum to come over here and proove what I am saying and again you will be rediculous yourself.But it is no need because they are also many of them here knowing exactly what happened now and then.

Rumors and myths are creations from people that don't know how to explain what they see or rather they make this because this way suits them for one reason or another.
Jealously whith money involved is one of the worst compinations for the days we live.


Go back to your shop-forum goldmaniac and translate to them my post for everybody to see.Yours is in Greek anyway.
I am sure everybody will love it apart from your friends.
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:10 PM
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I see you hurt the kit never came out in production, since this turned out not working
Maybe we what we are honest from something else that is professional and sell fraud

βλεπω σας πονεσε το κιτ που ποτε δεν βγηκε στην παραγωγη,αφου και αυτο αποδειχθηκε οτι δεν δουλευε
ισως εμεις ειμεθα ποιο τιμιοι απο κατι αλλους που ειναι επαγγελματιες και πουλανε απατη
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:46 PM
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Maybe we what we are honest from something else that is professional and sell fraud

βλεπω σας πονεσε το κιτ που ποτε δεν βγηκε στην παραγωγη,αφου και αυτο αποδειχθηκε οτι δεν δουλευε
ισως εμεις ειμεθα ποιο τιμιοι απο κατι αλλους που ειναι επαγγελματιες και πουλανε απατη
Production???? Thank you very much!
You prove again what I said in my last post.
So don't keep on saying that others think the way you think.
No more excuses.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:08 PM
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Production???? Thank you very much!
You prove again what I said in my last post.
So don't keep on saying that others think the way you think.
No more excuses.
well,well,now i see why Alonso go to Greece for MINEORO demonstrations...i think Greece is the LRL´s Paradise
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:21 PM
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well,well,now i see why Alonso go to Greece for MINEORO demonstrations...i think Greece is the LRL´s Paradise
You know better.
Do you remember the red lrl from Alonso???
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:31 PM
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You know better.
Do you remember the red lrl from Alonso???
yes,what is hapening with RED PD ? They clone it ?
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yes,what is hapening with RED PD ? They clone it ?
You say it , not me

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and where they get it? Esteban told there are only two of this in europe,one belong to mr.raymond in spain,probaly the other one is in greece...
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and where they get it? Esteban told there are only two of this in europe,one belong to mr.raymond in spain,probaly the other one is in greece...
Keep any secret!!!!
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:02 AM
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As I see it now there are people knowing things over here and for one reason or another they don't like sharing it whith us.
So either they know or either they wish they knew....
It looks like it is something they like to say but...... they don't find the words.
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As I see it now there are people knowing things over here and for one reason or another they don't like sharing it whith us.
So either they know or either they wish they knew....
It looks like it is something they like to say but...... they don't find the words.
I do not think if someone writes on a forum that he should share all his secrets.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:55 AM
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Keep any secret!!!!
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everyting is among secrets,all the treasures are in secret places,all the LRL´s who can find them, must be secret too...
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hi Geo

everyting is among secrets,all the treasures are in secret places,all the LRL´s who can find them, must be secret too...
Secret?
This cannot be true...

I see when jack, mehdi, and mesy64 ask for LRL circuits, they are given circuits that they can build for locating treasure.
I see even Geo gives circuits to find treasure.
I see no secrets.
Everything is known.

Is there some secret circuit for LRL that we have not seen here yet?

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From the Red Pistols in Europe which Mr Alonso built one is in Spain and the other one is mine in Greece. As you can see in my Avatar, but the problem is that it doesnt work here.
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As you can see in my Avatar, but the problem is that it doesnt work here.
Sure, it works in MMSF only.

How different with mineoro tax collection machine, wich works on all continents and in all evironment conditions.
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From the Red Pistols in Europe which Mr Alonso built one is in Spain and the other one is mine in Greece. As you can see in my Avatar, but the problem is that it doesnt work here.
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Hi Astrodetect

I´m wondering where Andreas get copy of this Red PD circuits,but this is only if Geo words are right...
The Red PD in Spain belong to one friend,i teste this LRL many times and it works as LRL,of course only with critical adjustment,otherwise i locate many other targets including shadows from the rocks or trees...
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Hi Astrodetect,
I am very happy you are here to help us solve the puzzle.
As you probably see some people over here spread rumors around that Crypton is a clone of red Alonsos PD.
So is this a grandfathers fairy tale as usual?
Yes I believe it is.
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everyting is among secrets,all the treasures are in secret places,all the LRL´s who can find them, must be secret too...
The more the secrets the more the rumors.
And the more the rumors the more the lies.
And the more the lies the less chances we have to find treasure.
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The more the secrets the more the rumors.
And the more the rumors the more the lies.
And the more the lies the less chances we have to find treasure.
Hahahahahahaaa...

I heard rumors that Crypton is Andy Flind magnetic field detector, and now I hear new rumors that it is copy of red Alonso pistol.
Who cares about rumors?... Only idiot spreads rumors, and only idiot believes rumor is the true facts.
We can learn the true facts by reading the reports from people who make observations of how the Crypton performs in the field to see if it is good to buy or not.
When I read reports from many users that Crypton does not locate iron or magnets, then I know it is a false rumor that it is magnetic field detector.

Maybe the next rumor we will read is the Crypton works on principle of magic, not electronics...
Maybe the next rumor will be the Crypton electronics is only to scare Jinns away...
Even if the Crypton has no electronic circuit except random beepers, the only final test is to see if it will locate treasure or not.

We know for certain only what we read that g-sani observed, and what Rubin observed when they used the Crypton in their hands to recover buried metals.
We know these are facts because g-sani does not make false reports, and because Rubin report is same as g-sani report.

When we read rumors to say g-sani and Rubin reports are false -- these are only rumors -- not true facts.
The people who make these rumors did not hold the Crypton in their hands to observe what is the performance...
So they make only rumors to say the Andy Flind circuit proves g-sani and Rubin are giving false reports.
Now we hear the new rumor that the non-working Alonso pistol circuit proves g-sani and Rubin are giving false reports?
I think both rumors are false rumors.
I begin to think the purpose to spread these rumors is because the people who make these rumors want to stop competition from Andreas and Crypton locator.


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Probably metal detectors used in those tests ("as seen on TV") are not rumors but facts.

You do not need LRL to find something everywhere where you start detecting with metal detector. Everywhere!!!!

So such "LRL videos" supported with metal detector as "proof of remote detecting" worth nothing. Zero and less than zero.
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Probably metal detectors used in those tests ("as seen on TV") are not rumors but facts.

You do not need LRL to find something everywhere where you start detecting with metal detector. Everywhere!!!!

So such "LRL videos" supported with metal detector as "proof of remote detecting" worth nothing. Zero and less than zero.
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Hahahahahahaaa...

I heard rumors that Crypton is Andy Flind magnetic field detector, and now I hear new rumors that it is copy of red Alonso pistol.
Who cares about rumors?... Only idiot spreads rumors, and only idiot believes rumor is the true facts.
We can learn the true facts by reading the reports from people who make observations of how the Crypton performs in the field to see if it is good to buy or not.
When I read reports from many users that Crypton does not locate iron or magnets, then I know it is a false rumor that it is magnetic field detector.

Maybe the next rumor we will read is the Crypton works on principle of magic, not electronics...
Maybe the next rumor will be the Crypton electronics is only to scare Jinns away...
Even if the Crypton has no electronic circuit except random beepers, the only final test is to see if it will locate treasure or not.

We know for certain only what we read that g-sani observed, and what Rubin observed when they used the Crypton in their hands to recover buried metals.
We know these are facts because g-sani does not make false reports, and because Rubin report is same as g-sani report.

When we read rumors to say g-sani and Rubin reports are false -- these are only rumors -- not true facts.
The people who make these rumors did not hold the Crypton in their hands to observe what is the performance...
So they make only rumors to say the Andy Flind circuit proves g-sani and Rubin are giving false reports.
Now we hear the new rumor that the non-working Alonso pistol circuit proves g-sani and Rubin are giving false reports?
I think both rumors are false rumors.
I begin to think the purpose to spread these rumors is because the people who make these rumors want to stop competition from Andreas and Crypton locator.


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From Andreas factory we have many LRL devices claimed to be very good LRL´s,

lets see :

Iconos

Evrentis PD

Argos

Greek magical PD

Crypton

All of them claimed to be the best,wich one is better ???
We saw in greek LRL video the Andreas magical PD can locate fresh buried gold coin 100m distance,so,now the Crypton cant do that and is the best.

very strange...
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From Andreas factory we have many LRL devices claimed to be very good LRL´s,

lets see :

Iconos

Evrentis PD

Argos

Greek magical PD

Crypton

All of them claimed to be the best,wich one is better ???
We saw in greek LRL video the Andreas magical PD can locate fresh buried gold coin 100m distance,so,now the Crypton cant do that and is the best.

very strange...
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