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Old 02-18-2008, 04:21 PM
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Viva la AnarquÃ*a !!!
Democracia... pero si el tipo es malo, uso palo!

Democracy... but if the guy is bad, I use the stick!
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Democracia... pero si el tipo es malo, uso palo!
Democracy... but if the guy is bad, I use the stick!
No la democracia... es un foro. Malos y buenos pueden venir aqui con palos.
It is not a democracy... it's a forum. Bad and good can come here with sticks.

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:48 PM
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No la democracia... es un foro. Malos y buenos pueden venir aqui con palos.
It is not a democracy... it's a forum. Bad and good can come here with sticks.

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Yes, you're right. Stick is figurative.

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Old 02-18-2008, 06:37 PM
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"So you see this forum is not democracy, but a place to post polite, non-inflammatory opinions. The responsibility you described is not a responsibility for using democratic methods of government, but a personal responsibility from the character of the people who decide to post here."

This is so true! I agree. Some people simply do not have least character here, coming and posting nonsences constantly!

Stick...stick usually have two sides. On one side stand user and on other side usually is victim!
But it is very easy, piece of cake, sides to be confused and roles to be changed!
So better do not talk about sticks!

I refered my previous post on democracy, to one much earlier administrators explanation...much earlier, in the past. You probably do not remeber or even never saw it.
Never mind. Forget it. Democracy in reallity is absolute complement to workable LRL - doesnt exist! Not possible to exist. Never existed and should never exist.



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In addition i will say how i see real democration;
real democration is not only to let everybody here to come and say whatever they want, real democration is also HUGE responsibillity to other members of comunity - forum in this case! To respect and be fair in claims!
We are not the same. Some people do know enough - you cant fool them easilly, but some people dont know enough - you can easilly fool them with your claims. You can missuse their ignorancy to make some profits. Real democracy WILL STOP YOU TO DO THAT! Real democracy MUST PROTECT every EQUAL member of comunity - in this case forum members!
Real democracy will stop me to verbally offends other mebers but also MUST STOP frauds to missuse freedom of speach here! I can live with this, can You???
I was convinced that Mineoro realy works when i saw this photo in Forum...
And some months ago i discover this old man was payd to make propaganda of LRL´s,not only Mineoro!!!
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Democracy in reallity is absolute complement to workable LRL - doesnt exist! Not possible to exist. Never existed and should never exist.[/FONT]
Oh!!! You know??? Just you???

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I was convinced that Mineoro realy works when i saw this photo in Forum...
And some months ago i discover this old man was payd to make propaganda of LRL´s,not only Mineoro!!!
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Yes, but never the photo was used by Mineoro...
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I was convinced that Mineoro realy works when i saw this photo in Forum...
And some months ago i discover this old man was payd to make propaganda of LRL´s,not only Mineoro!!!
Here is the photo Attachment 4386

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I don't know about Jim Mitchell's (Deceased) assosciation with Mineoro.

But, to set the record straight, He purchased and owned an Electroscope, but he was not paid by Electroscope, for the false testimony they published. In fact, Jim Mitchell, publicly rebuked Electroscope for falsely claiming his finds were made with an Electroscope. They were not.

It's a pitiful mentality that skeptics here are intent on perpertrating false rumors about decent Treasure Hunters. The Skeptic logic here is, always "Guilty" unless proven innocent to your own personal satisfaction. Who to H_LL do you think you are? Dell
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:12 PM
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I don't know about Jim Mitchell's (Deceased) assosciation with Mineoro.

But, to set the record straight, He purchased and owned an Electroscope, but he was not paid by Electroscope, for the false testimony they published. In fact, Jim Mitchell, publicly rebuked Electroscope for falsely claiming his finds were made with an Electroscope. They were not.

It's a pitiful mentality that skeptics here are intent on perpertrating false rumors about decent Treasure Hunters. The Skeptic logic here is, always "Guilty" unless proven innocent to your own personal satisfaction. Who to H_LL do you think you are? Dell
Very funny,he found the same silver dollars with both Mineoro and Electroscope...
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:14 PM
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You guys are so funny Maybe you should copy from the electronic engineers who build LRL's for the biggest manufacturer/seller of LRL's in the world.

When a product is built by clever electronic engineers like yourselves, it has to be good to demand the big bucks, Right?

No "Get Rich" scam is possible from fellow electronics techs, Right?

That's a mighty egotistical high horse you guys ride.
Check out how much smarter your comrades are. They laugh at you and pitiful jealous Carl, all the way to the bank.

$20,000 for the Navigator and a pair of Dowsing Rods. WOW! That's some technology. Dell

LINK: http://treasurenow.com/html/products.html

If you want to say those are frauds - i agree.
If you want to say these prices are lunatic - i agree.
If you ask me; is 1200e to much for White's DFX - i can say YES, way to much!
If you ask me; is 900e to much for Minelab Sovereign - i can also say YES, way to much!
But paying 1200e for DFX man can loose only 300-400e and still keeping workable and useable METAL DETECTOR.
Paying $2000 for LRL device which including 1 signal generator=$150 and few
plastic sticks = $10-$20....well this is way to MUCH! This is robery!
Any other LRL from $10 and up is nothing but robery and fraud!
We are talking here not only about prices also about true and false devices and true and false claims came with devices.

Finally, i would say that you are absolute straightforward man, if you:

Took your omnitron to market and sell it by $160-$170 under further claim:
" Omnitron - accurate signal generator with probes " and nothing else!
But if you advertise it as mighty Long Range Metal Locator with which man can locate burried treasure up to 12 meteres...more/less... than i simply can not take you as straightforward man at all.
That was the point.

But about other things, like real prices of workable detectors....yes we can agree mostly.


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Old 02-18-2008, 09:20 PM
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"Who to H_LL do you think you are? Dell "

Just ordinary customers, want to get exatly what payed for.Not stupid and not naive at all.
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:26 PM
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Very funny,he found the same silver dollars with both Mineoro and Electroscope...
Dont know a man. But enough is to look in his face and see his character.
This is not prejudice this is fact.
Special FBI agents are especially trained to judge about characters looking at faces. Very accurate method, so many times proven on the field. 0% error!

Example:

Look Al Gore's face and you will see straightforward man,
look g. bush face and you will see totally incompetent looser.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:21 PM
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I am a bit rusty in this things, but i can add some more;
this face also tells me:
-Alcohole adictive person,
-Suffered from some kidney mailfunction, probably cured in the past,
-Silent person, not talk to much,
-Possible hearth mailfunction..
-Weak character, easy to manipulate with..
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I will repeat, i dont know a man and i dont intend to offend anybody's feelings. I am just reading face in 2 photos.
Post your face here and test my skills!

I saw Dell's face once!
If i remeber good...:
-Was pretty straightforward in youth,
-Well educated,
-Talking person but not anoying,
-Was alcohol adictive,
-Somewhen in middle ages he lost all ideals,
-Clever but not straigtforward anymore,
-Hedonist, like food,drinks and women
etc.etc...

Hah,hah,hah,hah!! Take this as joke...of course!






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Old 02-19-2008, 12:50 AM
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You are right, your skill as a character analysist, is a joke.

I don't drink, smoke, lie, cheat, steal, or practice infidelity.
I have very little formal education. I was extremely shy and self conscious in youth and into adult hood.

I learn from hard labor work, trial & error, and my knowledge comes from years and years of practical, hands on experience. I love honesty, animals, nature, and the life I am fortunate to have been given. I am saddened by the negative mentality of Hypocrites, liars, egotist, and less fortunate folks than myself, who suffer in this life. Dell
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Here you are Robert. Some pictures of my ugly alcholic, cigarette wrinkled mug. Dell

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Old 02-19-2008, 07:08 AM
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And i love animals to, but i dont yield their jaws arround...

Of course it was a joke Dell! Do i hear offended man in your post??? Nooo!

I was joking and same time giving practical example of another human "skill" same as dowsing!
LRL and dowsing are accurate same as my character reading
However i did hope you will understand that...but you didnt???
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:37 AM
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BTW i do envy you on few things here, for real; adventure! My kind.
Also i am happy to see that you mostly used conventional metal detectors!
Bravo! Only way so far.
Happy to see that you are not totally lost like few funny characters here...
Those are the photos i would like to see here more oftenly, instead idiotic photos posted by other person.
Photos of real adventure,nature,animals,real prospecting.
Why you didnt posted those here before?
Did you affraid you've been attacked or joked by me, cose of those?? Noooo!
I invite you to post all your photos here from your adventures!
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Oh, another thing; can you explain those detectors on pictures?
Especially that underwater with large coil? Which type is it?
I can not recognize it....
The other one on other photo looks like old Compass or White's..? Or BH?
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:28 PM
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bIG dELL just left the building!?
What? Offended? Like i do care...pfffff
70 years of life should worth something or...
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What? Offended? Like i do care...pfffff
70 years of life should worth something or...
Hey Robert, Those pictures Dell posted are cool. He had a greater adventure than most of us will ever have. From animal trainer to national television appearances, performances with the late Queen of Monaco and movie star... no matter how good an engineer we can be, we can't look back at adventures like that!

It don't matter how much you care about these things, cause when our time comes to meet our maker, the people we leave behind will remember us for the things we did over a lifetime. Problem with engineers, not too many people ever sees or knows what gizmo we designed inside a mobile phone or a radio. And if they did, they wouldn't care or even remember for more than a week. But who can forget the man who wrestled an alligator, and was there with his dolphins at the Grace Kelly event, and they saw on What's My Line on TV? I guess that's the price you pay for learning tech stuff.

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Dont twist my words here!?
I do envy him on his interesting life experiences, for real! I do.
I said i dont care cose he left without answering me my last questions about metal detectors on those photos! That's was my point, not his life.
70 years old man should overcame ego long time ago and answer few simple questions, since he already appeared here and posted something without any question refered directly to him. Yet, it will be polite to continue and answer very simple,friendly question.
No, he just left. He already said what he wanted and left. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Who am i to dare to ask him any question. Right?
I dont like that kind of attitude. Aint no man such "big" to earn my respect with that kind of attitude. Even a Tarzan himself!
I would be glad to post here my few photos with few female celebrities also!
But simply i cant, it will show my real identity. Only reason.
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I was joking and same time giving practical example of another human "skill" same as dowsing!
LRL and dowsing are accurate same as my character reading
However i did hope you will understand that...but you didnt???
Roberts, your "practical example" is not realistic. Don't look now it's too late, your ignorance is showing. But, since you pretend to know, how about showing me when my Dowsing was not accurate?

I seriously doubt if you even know the difference between Meta-Physics of Dowsing, and the Physics of Long Range Locators? Carl, certainly doesn't so you have no help there.

Think about it! If you learned to utilize that stagnant, unused portion of your brain, you could Dowse the rough schematics of planned new circuits and know if it would work, and where the problem would be even before you built the prototype. Now, there's a time saving advantage that's available to you with some determined practice. I'm not joking. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Use it to it's full potential.

The critter I'm cuddling in the photo is an 8 1/2 foot Asian Crocodile, not an Alligator.

The detector in the front photo is the first commercial built underwater P.I.
It was built by "Elsec" in Littlemore, England. I introduced the first to the U.S. market thru Kellyco. It opened up a whole new world for underwater Treasure recovery.

My friend Kenny White (Whites Electronics) later manufactured the first U.S. made underwater P.I. detectors to be sold commercially, then others followed.

The metal detector in the photo with the human skeletons, is a Whites. My first land detector was a Compass. My first underwater detector was a Whites BFO.

I just started the Blog, so there's a long way to go. Thanks for visiting. Dell

Another blip in the life of Dell LINK: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,108324.0.html
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Robert, watch the language, and don't try to sneak around the language censor.
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Roberts, your "practical example" is not realistic. Don't look now it's too late, your ignorance is showing. But, since you pretend to know, how about showing me when my Dowsing was not accurate?

I seriously doubt if you even know the difference between Meta-Physics of Dowsing, and the Physics of Long Range Locators? Carl, certainly doesn't so you have no help there.

Think about it! If you learned to utilize that stagnant, unused portion of your brain, you could Dowse the rough schematics of planned new circuits and know if it would work, and where the problem would be even before you built the prototype. Now, there's a time saving advantage that's available to you with some determined practice. I'm not joking. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Use it to it's full potential.

The critter I'm cuddling in the photo is an 8 1/2 foot Asian Crocodile, not an Alligator.

The detector in the front photo is the first commercial built underwater P.I.
It was built by "Elsec" in Littlemore, England. I introduced the first to the U.S. market thru Kellyco. It opened up a whole new world for underwater Treasure recovery.

My friend Kenny White (Whites Electronics) later manufactured the first U.S. made underwater P.I. detectors to be sold commercially, then others followed.

The metal detector in the photo with the human skeletons, is a Whites. My first land detector was a Compass. My first underwater detector was a Whites BFO.

I just started the Blog, so there's a long way to go. Thanks for visiting. Dell

Another blip in the life of Dell LINK: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,108324.0.html
Dell, congratulations!!! You have real experience of life. Another guy suffer causes is empty in MD experiences, also in other fields!

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Old 02-19-2008, 11:59 PM
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"Oooops! I did it again..." - Britney Spears

Carl, i know...i know...it is just stronger than me...

Dell, i retreive my previous words about your ego. many thanks for detailed answers! Wish you good life.

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