OBMD-1

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Can you tell us about the tests you made where you saw the OBMD-1 detect magnets and iron that g-sani did not see?
Can you tell us what Andy Flind magnetic field detector parts you saw inside the box that g-sani used to locate only non-ferrous metal?


Best wishes,
J_P

I know that it uses this pcb

Regards

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi J_P.
Where i wrote that i detected magnets or anything else with this????
I wrote that this lrl is the Andy Flind Magnetic field detector.
If you know the schematic of Andy Flind then if you reverse the pcb you will see that it is this schematic

Regards

Hi Geo,
Are you saying you made no tests of the OBMD-1, and you are only saying it is an Andy Flind magnetic field detector because you think this is what the circuit board is?
Are you saying you saw no components inside the OBMD-1, and you know it is a magnetic field detector because you saw a circuit board?
So you have proved the OBMD-1 cannot detect gold, silver or copper coins, and can only detect iron or magnets?

One thing I know for certain is that a magnetic field detector does not locate non-ferrous coins or a goat bell or a bullet from long distance.
And a magnetic field detector does not fail to locate a magnet.
I do not believe that both Rubin and g-sani are telling lies when they report all the coins and other non-ferrous things they found, and when they report they cannot locate a magnet or iron things.

I do not believe it is a magnetic detector because the evidence I see so far from g-sani and from Rubin shows it does not detect magnets, and it does detect non-ferrous metals.
When I consider this evidence, I think it cannot have a magnetic detector circuit.

I begin to wonder: how do you know what components Andreas put on this circuit board?
How do you know what other boards he also put inside the OBMD-1, and what components are on them?
I think you are only guessing that the circuit is a magnetic field detector, and making rumors.
And you make these rumors even when you can see the evidence shows it is not detecting magnetic fields.
I think only Andreas knows what components are inside the OBMD-1 locator, and you do not know.
Maybe some day you will open an OBMD-1 and take photos so you can show what is the facts instead of telling rumors and guesses.

Maybe you can tell me what is easier to believe?
1. The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,
-- and g-sani and Rubin made false reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, but they cannot detect iron or magnet.

Or is it easier to believe

2. g-sani and Rubin made true reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, and they cannot detect iron or magnets,
-- and the photo of an empty circuit board does not cause the OBMD-1 to detect only magnetic fields.
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.

Which is easier for you to believe?
1 or 2?
I see evidence reported only to show the OBMD-1 does not detect the magnetic field from a magnet and does detect non-ferrous, just as Crypton and Andreas said it does.

I already posted several times that I think it is best to wait and see what is reported before I make my opinion.
So I wait to read more field reports.
Maybe next week we will see a flood of field reports from people complaining that they can only detect magnets and iron, but they cannot find any coins or non-ferrous things with their OBMD-1. But until I hear a lot of reports that the OBMD-1 is performing like a magnetic field detector, I will think Andreas and Crypton company are telling true statements which are the same as the reports I hear from people who use the OBMD-1.


Best wishes,
J_P

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Geo

I know that it uses this pcb

Regards

Geo, Are you sure inside box , there are showed PCB????

[WM6]

Originally Posted by J_Player

But until I hear a lot of reports that the OBMD-1 is performing like a magnetic field detector,

J_P

"magnetic field detector, .." backed with usual metal detector (we saw those acrobatic video).

So, how it "is performing", as OBMD or MD?

Why one need MD as real finding device, if OBMD can detect something?

And don't tell me tale story about "only for pinpointing".

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by WM6

"magnetic field detector, .." backed with usual metal detector (we saw those acrobatic video).

So, how it "is performing", as OBMD or MD?

Why one need MD as real finding device, if OBMD can detect something?

And don't tell me tale story about "only for pinpointing".

Hi WM6,
I don't know the reason because I never located anything with any commercial LRL.
When we read what people who use the OBMD-1, they tell us this locator can locate within 1m of the buried metal. Then they use metal detector to pinpoinit.

This sounds similar to people who use a 2-box metal detector and they detect some metal buried close to the surface.
if the metal is small. They cannot pinpoint when using the 2-box, so they find the exact location with a metal detector that has a smaller coil.

But I cannot say what is the reason why users of OBMD-1 can locate to only area of 1meter.
I have never seen the circuit to make an analysis.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi J_P.

This is the schematic of Andy Flind magnetic field detector.
The OBMD don't use the LM3915 for leds driver.
Sorry for bad analysis, but Esteban put it here with low analysis.



J_P. I don't say that OBMD works and i don't say that it don't work.
I say that it is the Andy's Flind MFD and it works as MFD, nothing else. Now about the pcb.... Andreas post it to a Greek forum.

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by aft_72005

Geo, Are you sure inside box , there are showed PCB????

Yes, Andreas post it

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Geo,
Are you saying you made no tests of the OBMD-1, and you are only saying it is an Andy Flind magnetic field detector because you think this is what the circuit board is?
I am not think, i am sure.

Are you saying you saw no components inside the OBMD-1, and you know it is a magnetic field detector because you saw a circuit board?
If Crypton replace some resistors, does it makes the super technology LRL from this ??

So you have proved the OBMD-1 cannot detect gold, silver or copper coins, and can only detect iron or magnets? I did not said it....

One thing I know for certain is that a magnetic field detector does not locate non-ferrous coins or a goat bell or a bullet from long distance.
And a magnetic field detector does not fail to locate a magnet.


I do not believe that both Rubin and g-sani are telling lies when they report all the coins and other non-ferrous things they found, and when they report they cannot locate a magnet or iron things. Does i said any diferent??

I do not believe it is a magnetic detector because the evidence I see so far from g-sani and from Rubin shows it does not detect magnets, and it does detect non-ferrous metals.
Only you don't believe this, you don't believe the other, you don't think the other but Crypton has the special technology. Really do you know something, have something to show me??

When I consider this evidence, I think it cannot have a magnetic detector circuit.




Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
You speak as a big member of Crypton!!!!.
You don't like to see anything diferent than the Crypton works.
Why????

Regards

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Geo

J_P. I don't say that OBMD works and i don't say that it don't work.
I say that it is the Andy's Flind MFD and it works as MFD, nothing else. Now about the pcb.... Andreas post it to a Greek forum.

Regards

Hi Geo,
Who typed these words in the forum?

Originally Posted by Geo

Cryfton, has not the ability to detect only Au,Ag and Cu.
It is a magnet field detector, so it detects only the magnetic anomalies....

http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...448#post140448

When I read these words, I think the person who writes the words is saying Crypton does not have the ability to detect only gold, silver and copper.
I think the person who writes these words is spreading rumors that the Crypton is a magnetic field anomaly detector.
Can you tell the reason why you are now saying you did not put these words in the forum?

If you read the words I posted, I did not say I am a big member of Crypton.
I said I like to see reports from people who report their field experience before I make my opinion, and I ignore rumors.
You do not report any field experience you had from using a Crypton locator, but you tell stories of what it can detect and it cannot detect.
So I think I am reading rumor stories, not facts.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Geo,
Who typed these words in the forum?

http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...448#post140448

When I read this kind of words, I think the person who writes the words is saying Crypton cannot detect only gold, silver and copper.
I think the person who writes these words is spreading rumors that the Crypton is a magnetic field detector.

If you read the words I posted, I did not say I am a big member of Crypton.
I said I like to see reports from people who report their field experience before I make my opinion, and I ignore rumors.

Best wishes,
J_P

If you read good i say not only gold, silver and copper.
One member of a Greek forum detected Iron at a test where Andreas was the operator of the Crypton.

Regards

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Geo

If you read good i say not only gold, silver and copper.
One member of a Greek forum detected Iron at a test where Andreas was the operator of the Crypton.

Regards

I read good...

"Cryfton, has not the ability to detect only Au,Ag and Cu.
It is a magnet field detector, so it detects only the magnetic anomalies...."

This is a rumor that it detects only the magnetic anomalies

I see two reports from people in Greece who used the OBMD-1 in their hands and reported they saw it cannot detect magnets or iron.
I see two reports from people in Greece who used the OBMD-1 in their hands and reported they saw it detected coins and non-ferrous things only.

Will we ever see the report from this member of the Greek forum here?
Or is this a rumor that you cannot say anything about?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

I read good...

"Cryfton, has not the ability to detect only Au,Ag and Cu.
It is a magnet field detector, so it detects only the magnetic anomalies...."

This is a rumor that it detects only the magnetic anomalies

I see two reports from people in Greece who used the OBMD-1 in their hands and reported they saw it cannot detect magnets or iron.
I see two reports from people in Greece who used the OBMD-1 in their hands and reported they saw it detected coins and non-ferrous things only.

Will we ever see the report from this member of the Greek forum here?
Or is this a rumor that you cannot say anything about?

Best wishes,
J_P

Why is a rumor that it detects only the magnetic anomalies??
Also do you want a link from Greek forum???

[Geo]

Is this a Rumor????

Regards

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Geo

Is this a Rumor????

Regards

Hi Geo,
Yes I think the image you modified to depict what is inside the OBMD-1 is a rumor.
I think you do not know what components can be seen inside the OBMD-1, and you are only guessing.

I ask you again: Can you tell me what is easier for you to believe?
1. The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,
-- and g-sani and Rubin made false reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, but they cannot detect iron or magnet.

Or is it easier to believe

2. g-sani and Rubin made true reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, and they cannot detect iron or magnets,
-- and the photo of an empty circuit board does not cause the OBMD-1 to detect only magnetic fields.
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.

Which is easier for you to believe?
1 or 2?


Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Geo,
Yes I think the image you modified to depict what is inside the OBMD-1 is a rumor.
I think you do not know what components can be seen inside the OBMD-1, and you are only guessing.

I ask you again: Can you tell me what is easier for you to believe?
1. The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,
-- and g-sani and Rubin made false reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, but they cannot detect iron or magnet.

Or is it easier to believe

2. g-sani and Rubin made true reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, and they cannot detect iron or magnets,
-- and the photo of an empty circuit board does not cause the OBMD-1 to detect only magnetic fields.
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.

Which is easier for you to believe?
1 or 2?


Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
You make the questions as you like.
I believe to Andreas who posted the pcb of Crypton OBMD-1. This is a fact. And this pcb was made for the schematic of Andy Flid MFD. And this is a fact.
It strikes me that your insistence on something you do not know, unlike me who I have common friends with the Andreas. Does that says something to you;;;

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi Geo,
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.


Best wishes,
J_P

I told you who is the circuit, very simple you don't believe me.
I know at least other 4 people who tried the Cryfton. Do you know more????

Regards

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Geo

I told you who is the circuit, very simple you don't believe me.
I know at least other 4 people who tried the Cryfton. Do you know more????

Regards

Hi geo,

You did not show the circuit that is inside the Crypton.
You only showed an empty PCB image that Andreas posted, and you made your own guesses of what components are inside the OBMD-1.
I can see no place where you show that you know these are the components that we can find when we look inside the OBMD-1.
I also see you did not show any evidence that you know what other PCBs and other components we will see if we look inside the OBMD-1.
I see components that you posted are only your guesses of what you think, but you really do not know what we will see inside the OBMD-1.

Can you tell us exactly what these 4 other alleged people people say about the Crypton they tried?
Or is this another secret rumor of 4 reports that we will never read in the long range locators forum?

Still you cannot answer my question:
I ask you again: Can you tell me what is easier for you to believe?
1. The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,
-- and g-sani and Rubin made false reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, but they cannot detect iron or magnet.

Or is it easier to believe

2. g-sani and Rubin made true reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, and they cannot detect iron or magnets,
-- and the photo of an empty circuit board does not cause the OBMD-1 to detect only magnetic fields.
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.

Which is easier for you to believe?
1 or 2?
Do you really believe 1 is correct and 2 is a lie?



Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi geo,

You did not show the circuit that is inside the Crypton.
You only showed an empty PCB image that Andreas posted, and you made your own guesses of what components are inside the OBMD-1.
I can see no place where you show that you know these are the components that we can find when we look inside the OBMD-1.
I also see you did not show any evidence that you know what other PCBs and other components we will see if we look inside the OBMD-1.
I see components that you posted are only your guesses of what you think, but you really do not know what we will see inside the OBMD-1.

Can you tell us exactly what these 4 other alleged people people say about the Crypton they tried?
Or is this another secret rumor of 4 reports that we will never read in the long range locators forum?
Do you think that all the people knows English and they read the LongRangeLocators???


Still you cannot answer my question:
I ask you again: Can you tell me what is easier for you to believe?
1. The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,
-- and g-sani and Rubin made false reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, but they cannot detect iron or magnet.

Or is it easier to believe

2. g-sani and Rubin made true reports to say they find many coins and goat bell and bullet, and they cannot detect iron or magnets,
-- and the photo of an empty circuit board does not cause the OBMD-1 to detect only magnetic fields.
-- This is only a rumor that Geo decided to spread without knowing what the real circuits are, and when he ignored the reports from people who actually used this locator.

Which is easier for you to believe?
1 or 2?
Do you really believe 1 is correct and 2 is a lie?



Best wishes,
J_P

Your question is a bad game and please not play with me.
If you really want an answer, then make the questions alone, no at groups.
Be sure i have the answer(s).


Regards

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Geo

Your question is a bad game and please not play with me.
If you really want an answer, then make the questions alone, no at groups.
Be sure i have the answer(s).


Regards

Hi Geo,
This is a public forum where all the world can read.
It is not a private conversation.
You have been posting rumors that you refuse to prove they are correct or not here in an international forum.
Now you say you can talk about what you believe only in private?

What is your purpose for spreading rumors in a public forum that you cannot prove?
Why do you say "Crypton is a magnet field detector, so it detects only the magnetic anomalies" in a public forum if you refuse to talk about your proof in the same public forum?

Isn't this what a rumor is?

Do you remember the rules of this forum?
Be factual, and try not to take differences of opinions personally. If you make an extraordinary claim, be prepared to have that claim challenged.

You do not give facts.... you give guesses of components.
I like to see you prove your claims are true.
I see only your words talking what parts you guess are inside of OBMD-1, then make conclusion that it detects only magnetic field anomalies.
I think this is an extraordinary claim.
I think you cannot show any evidence that the OBMD-1 detects only magnetic field anomalies.
If I am wrong, then show the evidence of the OBMD-1 detecting only magnetic field anomalies.
I have never seen the OBMD-1 detect a magnetic field anomaly.
Have you?

I think you believe that answer 1 is correct -- that g-sani did not lie and you have the wrong guess for magnetic field detector.
But I think this only because I see you can present no evidence to show that it locates magnetic fields.
Maybe my idea is wrong.
Maybe you can prove the OBMD-1 makes beeps when a magnet or iron is placed near it.
Can you?


Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi J_P.
Why you have your eyes closed???
You wrote """The photo of an empty circuit board proves the OBMD-1 is a magnetic field detector which cannot detect coins or gold things,""... The photo of pcb that Andreas posted show and the components, so ti is not an empty circuit. I have the pcb, i have the component layer, i have the schematic so what other i need?????
If i will give you the schematic, AGAIN you will tell that you are not sure if it is this and again that it is a rumor .
Also why you don't believe what Andreas posted and said??? He posted the pcb of Crypton and he said that THIS is the pcb, what other would you like????? I wrote if you like to give you the link of the Greek forum where a member writes that this lrl don't work but you did not answered about this.
If you do not know something, do not write to create sensationalism

Regards

[goldmaniac]

geo ξεκινα μεταφραση
δεν γνωριζω το μελος rubin αλλα για τον g-sani εχω να συμπληρωσω οτι ειναι αναξιος εμπιστοσυνης και μεχρι τωρα τα βηματα που εχη κανη ειναι η πλαγια διαφήμιση αποστατικων μηχανηματων και του PD και τωρα του CRYPTON
οταν ξεκινησε με εναν φιλο μου να λενε για το πιστολι τους εμπιστευθηκα,και εγω ο ιδιος επεσα στα διχτυα της παραπλανησης,μετα απο λιγο καιρο και εφοσον δεν απαντουσαν στα τηλεφωνα μου,εγραψε μεσα στο ελληνικο φορουμ να τον διαγραψω απο μελος γιατι κινδυνευη σωματικα
αλλο ενα παραμυθακι απο τα συνηθισμενα τους
και εχω την απορια αφου δεν πουλα ο ανδρεας πως βρεθηκαν αυτα στα χερια τους και γιατι οταν ζητησα επισημα δοκιμη απο το ελληνικο φορουμ του μηχανηματος δεν δεχθηκαν
απλες αποριες εχω σχετικα με το ολο σκηνικο που παιζεται ακομα στο εδω φορουμ
οσο για το κυκλωμα που αναφερη ο γιωργος 90% ειναι το σωστο και αφηνω ανοιχτο ενα 10% σε περιπτωση λαθους
και το ερωτημα σε ολους τους τεχνικους εδω μεσα ειναι πως μπορουμε να κανουμε εκπομπη συχνοτητων vlf και ληψη με υπέρυθρες? οταν η ληψη ειναι τοπικη η χρειαζεται ενα δικτυο υπερυθρων για να ξεπεραστουν τα εμποδια,οπως τα μικρα λοφακια,τα δενδρα.οι θαμνοι?

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by goldmaniac

geo ξεκινα μεταφραση
δεν γνωριζω το μελος rubin αλλα για τον g-sani εχω να συμπληρωσω οτι ειναι αναξιος εμπιστοσυνης και μεχρι τωρα τα βηματα που εχη κανη ειναι η πλαγια διαφήμιση αποστατικων μηχανηματων και του PD και τωρα του CRYPTON
οταν ξεκινησε με εναν φιλο μου να λενε για το πιστολι τους εμπιστευθηκα,και εγω ο ιδιος επεσα στα διχτυα της παραπλανησης,μετα απο λιγο καιρο και εφοσον δεν απαντουσαν στα τηλεφωνα μου,εγραψε μεσα στο ελληνικο φορουμ να τον διαγραψω απο μελος γιατι κινδυνευη σωματικα
αλλο ενα παραμυθακι απο τα συνηθισμενα τους
και εχω την απορια αφου δεν πουλα ο ανδρεας πως βρεθηκαν αυτα στα χερια τους και γιατι οταν ζητησα επισημα δοκιμη απο το ελληνικο φορουμ του μηχανηματος δεν δεχθηκαν
απλες αποριες εχω σχετικα με το ολο σκηνικο που παιζεται ακομα στο εδω φορουμ
οσο για το κυκλωμα που αναφερη ο γιωργος 90% ειναι το σωστο και αφηνω ανοιχτο ενα 10% σε περιπτωση λαθους
και το ερωτημα σε ολους τους τεχνικους εδω μεσα ειναι πως μπορουμε να κανουμε εκπομπη συχνοτητων vlf και ληψη με υπέρυθρες? οταν η ληψη ειναι τοπικη η χρειαζεται ενα δικτυο υπερυθρων για να ξεπεραστουν τα εμποδια,οπως τα μικρα λοφακια,τα δενδρα.οι θαμνοι?

This is an English language forum. Please post in English, or at least post a translation.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

This is an English language forum. Please post in English, or at least post a translation.

Goldmaniac (the administrator of the Greek forum psaxtiria.net) don't know English so i will try at night to translate it. Now i have not time.

Regards

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Geo

Goldmaniac (the administrator of the Greek forum psaxtiria.net) don't know English so i will try at night to translate it. Now i have not time.

Regards

Hello Geo, here is my translation (google transtator)


geo begins translation
I do not know rubin State but for the g-sani I have to add that is unworthy of confidence, and so far the steps echi barrel is a side advertising defected machinery and PD and now CRYPTON
When he started with a friend of my say about the pistol trusted, and I fell into the nets of deception, after a while, and if they did not answer the phones, I wrote in the GREEK Forum delete it from State threatened physically because
another a tale from their usual
And I have questions after not sell the man that found them in their hands because when formally requested by the test GREEK forum the machine did not accept
I have simple FAQ about the whole thing still playing here in the forums
As for the circuit referred George 90% is right and leaves open a 10% in case of error
And the question in all technical here is how we can make vlf emission frequencies and infrared reception; When the download is local or you need a network of infrared to overcome obstacles, such as small hills, the dendra.oi shrubs;

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Hello Geo, here is my translation (google transtator)


geo begins translation
I do not know rubin State but for the g-sani I have to add that is unworthy of confidence, and so far the steps echi barrel is a side advertising defected machinery and PD and now CRYPTON
When he started with a friend of my say about the pistol trusted, and I fell into the nets of deception, after a while, and if they did not answer the phones, I wrote in the GREEK Forum delete it from State threatened physically because
another a tale from their usual
And I have questions after not sell the man that found them in their hands because when formally requested by the test GREEK forum the machine did not accept
I have simple FAQ about the whole thing still playing here in the forums
As for the circuit referred George 90% is right and leaves open a 10% in case of error
And the question in all technical here is how we can make vlf emission frequencies and infrared reception; When the download is local or you need a network of infrared to overcome obstacles, such as small hills, the dendra.oi shrubs;

Very good, i will try to make it a little better