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Only three PDK-2.2 was made,one was mine(already sold). If the person who is using this LRL cant calibrate it correctly ,is not possible to locate the targets,even the big objects,becouse this device needs calibration to the point that it starts locating the metals in front of the coil,at the same time that it happens great capacitance in the front batteries box.Anyway the voltage regulator keep constant calibration most of the time.With this is possible to locate 1,5V spark at only 60 cm. PDK-2.1 is more simple to operate,but need constant Fine Tuning calibration,maybe each 5 or 10 minutes of search we need to check the front knob by touching,to keep the high level of sensitivity. with this LRL is possible to locate 1,5V spark at 1,20m or sometimes 2,00m. 
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I think this is definitely a finger ring and is hand made and chased I would say about 16 to17th century? The roman coin is also a good find. Congratulations for a very well made video showing pinpointing the finds also showing there was no signal after retrieving the finds and filling holes. I’m still looking forward to getting time to go searching again with my PDK - 2 Best regards
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Thanks for clarifications about the ring. Hope the PHENOMENON grows very big in UK and you have nice finds with your PDK. Regards
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My dear dreamers, you are so excited and happy with "phenomenon", which is to some others horror fear:
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...249#post161249
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But in short: technology we use in PD, PDK, PDxy, is limited by its physical laws. Sorry to say, but "No magic there!". If you are lucky, you can detect Earth field anomalies at couple of meters at best, like unwillingly happen to moodz at Geotech. There is no "LRL way" on PDx way. That this is true recognize between the lines our friend Morgan too. Read carefully in try to understand his words: "As i told,the PDK-2.2 is the LRL that needs special and extremly dificult calibration ,after well calibrated is able to locate the targets same as PDK-2.1 or even better for the small gold, but i´m talking about field tests made here,in other countries results can be diferent." Well known excuse if something is not working as we expected. Why it is so "extremely difficult"? Cause it is extremely difficult to find something by accident (which is only PDx possibilities) and do not mislead yourself at the same time.
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11-23-2012, 11:15 PM
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The buried noble metals if many years underground create THE ANOMALIE you are talking about,and a very sensitive and well tuned Electromagnetic Field Locator can locate this anomalie,that is what is called here THE LONG RANGE LOCATORS.
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11-24-2012, 12:38 AM
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Hi Morgan,
my congratulations to your PDK. The device seems to work really perfect. The videos are really excellent. I think it's great that you also show the before and after test. So I must say I am really excited about your PDK. That's the best I've seen so far of this topic. Much continued success. best regards
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11-24-2012, 06:39 AM
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HI MORGAN,,
INTERESTING FINAL REMARK YOU MADE IN THE PDK VIDEOS FROM MORGAN WHEN YOU SAID: "until now what i understand is that there are variations in PHENOMENON intensity according the countries,i´m in contact with all the persons who are using PDK´s and know about most of the finds and of course about some of them who still trying to find something valuable. The buried noble metals if many years underground create THE ANOMALIES you are talking about,and a very sensitive and well tuned Electromagnetic Field Locator can locate this anomalie,that is what is called here THE LONG RANGE LOCATORS" MY QUESTION: IF THE ANOMALIES IS CONSIDERED TO BE A LOCAL VARIATION IN THE EARTH's MAGNETIC FIELD, AND YOU SAID "that there are variations in PHENOMENON intensity according to the countries", THEN ARE YOU SURE THAT THE VERY SENSITIVE AND WELL TUNED ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD LOCATOR WILL CERTAINLY DETECT ALL SPECTRUM OF PHENOMENON INTENSITY ANYWHERE ON EARTH WITHOUT THE INVENTOR's INTERFERENCE TO TRY TO CHANGE ANY CALIBRATION OF THE MACHINE FROM THE INSIDE??? I MEAN IS THE MACHINE IS ONLY USER-DEPENDENT ANYWHERE NO MATTER WHERE YOUR COUNTRY IS... REGARDS,
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11-24-2012, 02:04 PM
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Who says the "phenomenon" is a variation in the earth's magnetic field? I don't believe anyone here has a clue what the "phenomenon" is. The only understandable description I have ever heard is it is a place on the ground where people say their LRLs make beeps when they are pointed at the place. The first description of a "phenomenon" I ever heard was from metal detectorists who said they had an extra strong signal when using their metal detector, then they dig up an old metal item and they find the signal is back to normal strength after the metal is out of the ground. They called it "halo". But they never described any kind of physical field which caused that "phenomenon". The second description of "phenomenon" came from the people at the Mineooro LRL factory, who said the "Phenomenon" was caused by gold ions "crashing" as they neutralized, and using the energy of the "crash" to transport the ions to the ion chamber in their LRL: Originally posted in Mineoro Advertising: "So "ions" in movement, just them, would generate electrostatics. Although in an infinitely small phenomenom, micro, nano , pico, femto or atto phenomenom, the electrostatic phenomenom occurs as well. It is a electrostatics with the characteristic of the substance created by it. The negative "ion", in our case, gold "ion" brings the energy which will tranport it. The "ion" itself generates that transporting energy. This explains the substance classifier. When the negative "ion" finds its twin of opposite polarity, they love each other so intensively, that when they get together they provoke a short-circuit auto-destroy themselves. As in the Romeo and Juliet movie, both of them die, but the proof of their death is a flask of poison near them; in the same way, our "passionate ions" also leave a proof of their death in "emiting a crash", which generates an electrical signal so fast as nano, pico, femto or atto seconds , detectable in sensitive electronic circuits and projected for this aim. The classifier just filters the negative 'ions", twin pairs of positivie "ions" produced by the classifier. To this phenomenom, Alonso (60) and Damásio (70) gave the name of "Substance Classifier" or just "Classifier". This denomination was necessary to differentiate from the expression "discrimination", commonly used in other systems of detection by electromagnetic waves. About the "classifier" it is good to inform that it is possible to manufacture classifiers for other metal and non-metal substances. It is possible to classify blood in its kinds; plants and its kinds; drugs and its kinds, etc. at long distance. That is why we announced in the media that we are talking about A MODERN INVENTION". So now we have one explanation from Mineoro, which is an explanation that most educated people know does not make any sense. We know gold ions are not traveling through the air long distances to enter a sealed ion chamber and cause the Mineoro cheap transistors to sense pico, femto or atto-second electronic noise. Later events revealed that the Mineoro locators have a regenerative broadband receiver inside which responds to charged plastic markers placed on the ground and hidden transmitters which cause them to beep. If not gold ions traveling through the air, then what is the "phenomenon"? We have numerous MFD LRL salesmen who say the "phenomenon" is magnetic. Dell Winders, for instance... Originally posted by Dell Winders: "That's NOT my theory, and never what I based any field studies on. I never heard of the Ion theory until I seen it discussed on Geotech by the Scientific pretenders. I doubt that you have noticed that I have a tendency to lean towards metering concentrations of the earths magnetic field surrounding near surface anomalies". http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...&postcount=127 Magnetic field anomaly? I don't think so. If this "phenomenon" is a magnetic field anomaly, then any geologist would be able to find it with his magnetometer or a gradiometer. But they don't find these alleged magnetic field anomalies where there is a gold coin buried. If not gold ions traveling through the air, and not a magnetic anomaly, then what else could the "phenomenon" be? According to some experimenters, buried metals send out acoustic and electronic "vibrations" which can be heard with a sensitive enough microphone, or with ultra low frequency radio receivers, or even with dowsing rods. Some MFD users say they can cause the buried metal to become detectable by setting up a transmitter which sends out an electronic frequency which is the same as for the element that they are looking for. They keep lists of frequencies to use to find different elements, such as gold, silver, diamond, drugs, etc. This also sounds like pseudoscience, because it has no basis in science, and it has nobody who will demonstrate their MFD generators working to recover hidden treasures which they do not know the location of. It seems we are left with a lot of people talking about "the phenomenon is real", yet they cannot tell you what the "phenomenon" is. They cannot even describe the properties of this alleged "phenomenon". For this reason, I would not believe anyone who told me it is a magnetic anomaly unless they showed some evidence we could check to verify that it is indeed a magnetic anomaly. Best wishes,  J_P
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Ref: Morgan’s Latest Videos,
I think that this is like a breath of fresh air, because this is the first time I have seen a LRL actually do what it’s supposed to do “Find Quality targets buried in the ground form a considerable distance” I personally have never seen any other LRL work so well, ok it needs to be tuned very sensitively “but it works” I think Morgan is definitely on the right track with the PDK, and I’m sure he will improve on it over time. Keep up the great work Morgan. 
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Maybe gold send strong photon light with acoustic vibrations, because one madel of Alonso have (use) eye (IR Trans. or IR Led) for receiving. Regards.
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There are three problems with that theory. 1. No Gold Ions There are no ions of gold at the surface of the ground or in the air. This was proved by scientists who measured to find where the gold ions are. The only gold ions they found were under the ground, 10 cm and deeper, and these ions are in the parts per trillion amounts. These ions in the ground cannot be measured unless you dig a soil sample and take it to a laboratory, then make an assay of the soil with some very sophisticated instruments. When these ions move near the surface of the ground, they neutralize and become a microscopic gold metal particle. And they remain particles even after they reach the surface of the ground. Some of these microscopic gold particles blow in the wind into the air, where they can be measured in the parts per trillion concentration. But scientists cannot find any gold ions in the air. The microscopic gold metal particles in the air, and in the ground, and the sea water are not ions. They have neutral charge because they are part of a neutral metal lattice, not ions in solution. 2. No ions means no photons, No IR interactions from ion "crashes" Knowing that there are no gold ions on the surface of the ground or in the air, we can determine that there are no gold ions neutralizing on the surface of the ground or in the air, and there is no "crash". A solid gold particle does not send strong photon light from within the gold. The only light we get from a gold particle is light that is reflected from another light source, or if we heat the gold so hot that it begins to glow from the heat. When we are looking for buried gold, any light from an artificial source, or from a gold ion is blocked by the soil, which prevents visible and NIR light from passing above the ground where it can be seen from the surface. Therefore, we can see that light from the NIR LEDs on Mineoro locators is blocked from direct exposure to gold ions because the nearest possible gold ion is buried 10 cm below the ground. The IR LED can only be shined on the surface of gold that is above the ground, not under the ground. Since the only gold above the ground is gold metal, there is no ionic activity or photons coming from the neutral gold metal. 3. Femto, atto second electronic noises cannot be measured without special equipments The femto and atto second electronic pulses which Alonso talks about cannot be measured with the cheap signal transistors he uses in his locators. When we are trying to measure the electronic noise of chemical ions neutralizing, we generally put probes into a strong liquid solution where the ions are concentrated, and we use a very sensitive low-noise instrument to record the electronic noise from the ionic activity. But the ions which Alonso claims are causing his locators to beep are not in a strong liquid solution where we have probes submerged, and connected to a low-noise instrument. The ions Alonso talked about were measured in parts per trillion concentration, at a long distance from where we want to detect them, and they are buried at least 10 cm. The signal to noise ratio is way to far exceeded to measure these ions from long distance, even if we placed probes in the ground to measure them. The only way I could imagine is to go to a known location of buried metal which corrodes more than gold, such as copper. Then seed the ground with an acid which is known to corrode copper and push in some probes within 10 cm of the buried copper. In this condition, you may have a chance to measure the electronic noise from the copper ions changing to metal, and back to ions. But you would need some very sophisticated lab instruments to connect the probes to. And you would need some luck too. I think you would have a hard time to measure any ion electronic noise. To measure the electronic noise from buried gold ions from a distance is thousands of times more difficult than for copper, which commonly can make thousands of times more ions in the ground. To detect this noise from a distance with IR... I would like for someone to explain how it is possible, when we have parts per trillion of gold ions buried 10 cm and deeper under the ground. I don't need to hear anecdotal stories about how it is really, really working, because it is not. We already saw the performance of the Mineoro IR models. I believe they only work with hidden transmitters. Simply explain what exactly the IR LED is detecting. I know for a fact there is no light from a near IR LED shining on a buried gold ion. Best Wishes, J_P
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I am not trying to accuse Morgan as liar or scamer, but for me, he is evidently in self-deception. Technology used and video do not prove nothing more than that "PDK way" is one more of self-deception. Par example for thinking: Did video prove that terrain is 100% clear of other metallic parts and only testing parts are there in soil? No, it is impossible to 100% clear such terrain near the resorts. Why then no other part of there existing metallic parts are detected except his testing parts? Answer is simple: cause he know where his testing parts are buried. And this is not "fresh air", this is many times seen and repeated mistake of LRL constructors. Sorry to say, but this Morgan videos cannot convince me in LRL capabilities of his PDK. PDK cannot pass serious tests, too many excuse (like country specific conditions) on horizon.
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here is something realy strange that make me think that PHENOMENON as variations according countries. there is one person from Ukrain (Sood) is using the PDK-2.1 to search for WWII treasures,he told me to have very good PDK working during morning and part of the day,but after 16:00 H the PDK start locating never ending N-S lines,and he need to reduce a little the sensitivity to avoid this lines, this problem not happens in my country. Why the N-S magnetic lines are not present all the time ???
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I do not believe two buried silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other will create a magnetic anomaly. I can think of some anomalies that silver coins can create which could be detectable, but not magnetic anomalies. How did you conclude you found a magnetic anomaly when there are two silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other? Did you check with a magnetometer to see that these coins are creating a magnetic anomaly? Or did you just guess that silver coins make a magnetic anomaly because your locator becomes confused? Best Wishes, J_P
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