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Anyway i believe if Alonso is doing some trick in this FG90 video ,is only to convice people to buy MINEORO products. I know some models work and can find gold,but the propaganda for the performance is allways EXAGERATE.
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Thank you for answering my post. I am happy to see your idea of many gold coins.  I have discovered that it is a hard life for me to work for paying bills. The economy is bad, and it is difficult for me to make any progress in these troubling times.  I see the gold coins you show and I am happy for you. I am wondering if you need a house pet? I can travel to where you are, and I can be an excellent house pet for you. But that's not all.... I am clean..! I will polish all your gold treasures every day.  And I will count all your coins to make sure none of them get lost. I can even polish your gold statues. Do you need a house pet that helps with your treasures? Best wishes, J_P
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At those case Iconos located the ancient tombs. Of course it was very sensitive to power lines but i know it. Now about the PDC210... it was the only Mineoro that i owned so i can't compare it with other models except an older PDC205 from a friend. Both mineoro.... no results  .Regards
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How do you know this? From your own personal experience, and the results of others, the evidence seems to deny this claim. 
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And i found a few objects with DC2008,only this model work for me. BUT RESULTS ARE VERY BAD,NO PINPOINT ABILITY,COMPLETLY DIFERENT FROM WHAT WE SEE IN ALONSO´S FG90 VIDEO .
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I am happy to see Gollum is taking good care of your treasures. He seems like a very nice and friendly house pet. Quote:
If you read back in the history of Mineoro users posts here at Geotech, you will find some clues. If we look back to the year 2006, hung was telling everyone how wonderful Mineoro locators are, and especially the new FG80 model which detects fresh gold, and has longer range and better precision. At the same time when we were reading hungs propagandas, michael, neronc, and several others bought new FG80s. Even Carl bought one to test. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...7357#post47357 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...7382#post47382 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...4933#post44966 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...4592#post44592 Then we began to hear some real field reports of how they work. At first, we were hearing the buyers of the FG80 were confused because these detectors did not work like they saw in the videos. We heard stories that they are not detecting the gold plate that Mineoro sent for a test sample. And we heard reports they do not detect other gold even when it has been buried a long time, which was easily detected by other machines like metal detectors. They even dug up these gold targets to prove the gold was there. It is hard to read these posts, because they are sad. You begin seeing how treasure hunters are reading hung's posts and are asking to hear more good things about the Mineoro locators. Then hung tells them more good things, while at the same time Qiahozi, Carl, vcrb, Ivconic, SWR, Robert, and many others are telling them Mineoro does not work. But these treasure hunters were hoping everyone else is wrong and hung is right, because they want to get a locator to find treasures from long range. mosha: "I bought DC2007 before two months but there is no success yet!" http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...5337#post45337 Qiaozhi: "There are a few fanatical, closed minded members in the Dowsing/LRL group irrationaly preaching Pseudoscience, just as there are in every religeon." http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=49445#post49445 Robert: "  Haow many more lies from you Hung!????? Why dont you tell to people here what is your salary at mineoro!? Stop spreading lies and nonsence advertisments here! Drop dead! "http://www.geptech1.com/forums/showt...4665#post44665 Next we read posts from treasure hunters saying they believe the stories of wonderful long range detection, and they send their money to Mineoro. They are excited while they wait for their new FG80s to arrive. michael: "...Hung, Of course you are professional, know these and no need to remember them.It's only a suggestion and am sure you will forgive my impudence with your greatness.... ...Thank you Hung for your explanations. Of course you are right, but this case is a little different of automobiles. you are the only man at least I can have a reliable connection to mineoro by him and have daily and reliable info of their latest acts... ...Yes, you are right. it's obvious. but I mean it would be better you enter to digging phase... ...Hung, good and encouragous news. I hope is so. Of course your own test or founds are another thing and as a document for us (at least for me cose I believe in you)..." http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...4652#post44652 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...4810#post44810 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...4952#post44952 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...4965#post44965 Then we read posts when their new FG80 arrives... It seems the treasure hunters are confused because they do not see their FG80s work like they saw in the videos, and like hung told them they would work. We read how Mineoro is not answering their emails, and we begin to see posts where they are asking someone to help to get their Mineoro locators to work like they saw in the videos. We begin to read reports of random beeping, or not beeping when gold is placed near. The actual field results they report are beginning to sound like the same warnings we heard from Qiaozhi, Carl, vcrb, Ivconic, SWR, Robert, and the others... http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7567#post47567 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...8814#post48814 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...0278#post50278 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...0315#post50315 neronc: "I received mine one month ago and not middle to make operate it. I made my tests to 40% of humidity. Besides I made the tests in a land where I found a lot of gold Gallic pieces. I even make the test with the cool gold and always nothing. Can you tell myself if there is one special way to adjust it because I don't know what i'm doing bad. " http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=44988#post44988 Then we read forum posts from the same treasure hunters who are saying they do not believe their Mineoro loctors are helping them to find treasure, and they sell their FG80s. What is sad is they believed people who told them these are wonderful working long range locators, and they believed so strongly that they spent 8000 eu, only to learn they believed the wrong stories. They could have saved their 8000 eu to use for other treasure hunting equipment that really does work. from michael: "...at this day sometimes FG80 was unstable, behaved crazily; went out of adjustment and beeped continuously or randomly, what was the real reason, I don't know. I think this device is somehow faulty and behaves like what had read about FG78..." http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...0278#post50278 from neronc: "...Mineoro sent me an automatic Fg80 and this one doesn't react anymore of the all. They explain that it sounds on the electric circuits and on the grooves provided gold with......... nothing, more of reaction of the all. I find incredible that Mineoro provides you a device that doesn't work. Does this device have of the to be tested before its departure of the factory????..." http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...0315#post50315 from Seeker: "Poor, poor neronc ! To spend 7500 Euro for nothing ! For that money you can buy 5 excellent MD or one GPR ! So, what deal !" http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...0318#post50318 from michael: "...If I hadn't seen found treasures by LRLs ,I would never have bought FG80, anyway it is a new experience albeit maybe thoroughly useless..." http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7738#post47738 This appears to be a case where we can see it does not matter if you warn people or not. When the element of treasure enters the picture, people are anxious to believe things and take chances that they will not take if treasure is not part of the formula to decide. But what about the mystery of the beeping in the videos? How can the videos show a different performance than these treasure hunters found with the same locators? I see no signs of a transmitter in the videos. What made the locators beep at the times when they did? An answer can be found from Alexismex back in 2006 during one of his treasure hunting expeditions.... "...For the Mineoro Fg80 we make many test: east west north south , trim the control another and another and another time , waiting for warming electronic...,we have "fresh gold" to test ,from 1 inch to several feet no response , NEVER ONE TIME , sometime when you move the test card you have a beep ... but shure when you want a beep you must lower towards to the earth, shure you have your beep...." http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7559#post47559 We also see these clues in Carl's post: "...I can hold the FG80 horizontal and adjust the threshold to where the beeping just stops. Then, no matter where I'm at, if I point it downward, it starts beeping. Same thing with pointing it upward".... http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7488#post47488 We also see a clue in hung's post: "...2 - Bad calibration. You have to practice..." http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7478#post47478 What?  The trick is to turn the FG80 toward the ground to get it to beep? Does this mean that with some practice, you could adjust the sensitivity control to a point where you could get it to beep when you tilt your hand slightly to capture more of the ground influence? Maybe a hidden transmitter is not needed to make it beep? Maybe gold is not needed to make it beep? Maybe only the ground is needed to make it beep, after some careful adjustments and hand movements? It looks like Alexismex did a lot of testing with the Mineoro locators at a treasure site where he had 3 GPRs and other detectors. And it looks like he told us the same things that Morgan is telling us. Maybe he and Carl figured out how to cause Mineoro locators to beep in a way that nobody will notice...  Best wishes, J_P p.s. Say hi to Gollum for me.
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First of all thanks for this complete explanations about MINEORO products,and i´m sorry to talk about mineoro in a thread about PD discussions,anyway both LRL are Alonsos invention,so,they are connected. Maybe you are rigth,and pointing MINEORO (when very sensitive )to ground horizontaly WE GET THE BEEP,then a magical HAND MOVEMENT insert the SMALL OBJECT in the REMOVED GROUND,et voilá ,ah ah ah,GREAT ALONSO this is one possibility.But what i saw in MINEORO field test WAS DIFERENT,well acording to weather conditions Damasio told i can get 50cm,1m,2m or even 20m in the gold objects hide in his field test.BUT EVEN IN SUNNY DAYS I NEVER GET MORE THAN 1m to 4m IN MINEORO FIELD,SO HOW MINEORO CLAIM THE FG80 CAN FIND SMALL OBJECT 30m--300m ???,A COMPLET NONSENSE !!! Connie´s husband is spanish and talk directly to Alonso,ask this question,Alonso said MINEORO as LIMITED distances as LRL and Damasio EXTEND THIS LIMITATIONS to a promotional and marketing process TO INCREASE SALES.~ Of course ALONSO is not inocent,he can tell the true in MINEORO SITE,but he stay quiet. MINEORO LRL´s are very EXPENSIVE,they not work as advertised,so they must reduce the price,or stop sales !!! OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION,i know a french man who bougth one MINEORO,i think the FG80,he told me have found one treasure 40m distance,umidity 20%,depth 60cm,GREAT NEWS,at the same time he was in the same area and not get signals with MINEORO in other gold objects that he recovered later with his Pulse Induction detector... So,MINEORO NOT LOCATE ALL GOLD ALLOYS ??? IT NEEDS SPECIAL GOLD ? Regards
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This is another explanation that can make sense. Since the Mineoro has a VLF receiver some ways similar to a geologists loop, it is believable it could detect something 1-4 meters or maybe farther depending on soil conditions and RF conditions. I doubt it can tell only gold, but maybe can detect VLF absorbance like geologists measure. Maybe a manufacturer can start making geologist loops optimized to find small metal and sell for 7500 eu after putting many pictures of treasure on ther website. Don't bother to tell the detection will depend on the ground, moisture, RF receoption, and understanding geology. Simply say it is a gold machine that detects gold ion clouds in the air. If customers are lucky, then they will find some metal a few times. This will be good to post on the website to prove your VLF loops find only treasure. Then you can be a rich LRL manufacturer with people sending you money from all over the world, instead of a slave building geologist tools which they demand highest precision. Still, I wonder how Damasio can get 50cm,1m,2m or even 20m in the gold objects hide in his field test? Does this require he tilts the LRL slightly to the ground when nobody notices, because he knows where the treasure is? Would Alonso find the same treasures that you try to find in Portugal when he does not know where they are buried? Best wishes, J_P
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I never go to the beach to try MINEORO with Damasio,he said ionic field is very low,impossible to find something... well,i have many LRL stories from Brazil. I decide to buy MINEORO LRL becouse after long talking with Damasio i believe he and Alonso are realy cientists who found LRL technology. I´m still waiting for better results with my mineoro to prove they are good at LRL´s.
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 "Damasio(R.I.P.) not like ,and order me to stop,he said i damage the IONIC FIELD". Damasio(R.I.P.) not like, and order you to stop, he think you will discover the trick to make the Mineoro beep at the test field. Thank you for true stories from Mineoro factory Best wishes for you and your pet Gollum J_P
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Originally posted by Carl-NC "... the FG80 does not detect the gold test sheet (actually, gold-plated brass, I think) that was included with the detector. It also does not detect my 10-ounce gold bar... ...Last night, I took a closer look at the "gold" sample provided with the FG80. At one corner I noticed a slight separation... I discovered that the gold facing is an adhesive foil. I peeled it back slightly, and the foil is far more rigid than gold should be. I'm wondering if there is any gold in this sample at all. I plan to do some acid tests..." http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7468#post47468 http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7488#post47488  Best wishes, J_P
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I have a message for your house pet, Gollum: It is not necessary for him to go to Brazil to get a gold ring. I hear rumors they have fake Tumbaga gold in Brazil that has too much copper. There are better treasures in the USA. If Gollum went to Oregon in the USA, he would find many rivers which have gold nuggets, maybe more than 90% pure gold. The problem is how to find these nuggets. But there is a solution to find the nuggets in Oregon. If Gollum travels to the town of Sweet Home, Oregon, he will find the White's factory that makes real metal detectors. And he will see the Carl-NC museum of LRLs inside. Gollum can get a job to sweep the floor for White's factory, then borrow some LRLs to look for gold nuggets in the river when he is not busy polishing LRLs and sweeping floors. He will certainly find many nuggets with better gold alloy than Brazilian Tumbaga alloy. But if he has problems to find nuggets with LRLs, then he can borrow White's metal detectors. These are guaranteed, and owner of the factory will really answer emails and send new detector if it is not working ok to find treasure the same like you see in a video. Best wishes, J_P
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I think Morgan may know more clues to the mystery of the Mineoro performance. His stories of Mineoro locators shows us how they perform different during factory demonstrations than for customers who try to find the same detection away from the factory. He has more stories from the Mineoro factory we did not hear yet. But think about what he told us so far... The plastic markers at the location of buried treasure is one clue. Already we know the Mineoro locators will beep when you tilt them toward the ground. Do you think this is partly because they are capacitively coupled to the ground? If so, this means they are feeling the electric field changing when you move them closer to the ground. If you put down a plastic marker and rub it, do you think you might be making a change to the local electric field where the plastic is placed? Could you be creating an anomaly? Does anyone remember Estaban telling how it is important to wear cotton clothes because nylon or polyester fibers in clothes can cause false beeping from static electric charge close to the LRL? But what if rubbing plastic for a static electric field is the wrong theory of how the Mineoro locators are made to beep at the test field? Maybe the plastic markers are not changing thier static charge when you rub them. Is there another way these plastic markers could be used to make the Mineoro locators beep only when they are at the Mineoro test field? Imagine you are a treasure hunter visiting the Mineoro factory, and you see some yellow plastic markers showing where buried gold is located. You see the factory workers show you Mineoro locators beep when they point to the plastic markers and move close to them. How do you know there is treasure buried under these plastic markers? Because people at the factory tell you there is? Is there really treasure buried there? Think about it.... How do you know the plastic markers are not marking the location where a signal generator is buried? How do you know that the yellow marker is not part of a plastic connector you can move to adjust the power of the signal generator? You don't know. You only believe what people tell you at the factory. .... until you arrive home with your new Mineoro locator and then you learn you really had a brain wash at the factory... Why did Damasio become angry when Morgan rubbed on the plastic markers? -- Was it because Morgan was making the static field stronger --- or because he was turning up the power on a buried signal generator? Maybe the plastic markers have a thin wire at the bottom that you can disconnect from a buried transmitter antenna when you rub on it too hard? Originally posted by connie ...I bought a DC2008 from mineoro. ( I really had a brain wash from Brazil ) http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...6087#post96087 We read stories like this in this forum.... also, we see all through this forum where people believe the stories they hear of wonderful treasures found from Mineoro, how they work perfectly.... then, after they buy Mineoro locators, they learn they believed the wrong stories. After they spend their money, they find out these LRLs do not detect any treasure even when they know the treasure is there after they dig it up. In the case of Mineoro, they are not even detecting the gold test plate for most buyers. I think if a person wants a long range locator, they can have the same luck with building their own experimental locator instead of buying Mineoro. Maybe they will not have success at locating long range treasure, but they will not spend 7500 eu to find no success. If they build thier own experimental locator and they are lucky, then maybe they will find some treasure, and their wallet will have more money at the end of the year, not less. Best wishes, J_P
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