Zahori

[Esteban]

Can be this kind of coupling, but you can find others. Not sure the capacitance here, but is a kind of filter too. Maybe Zahori needs other filter for to reject 50/60 Hz AC frequency.

[Esteban]

Pistol. Antenna isolated of the wood by piece of fiberglass PCB.

[Esteban]

Similar, isolated by gum.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Similar, isolated by gum.

Hi Esteban,
I see... so it's fiberglass or gum (I think you maybe mean "rubber") that it's there as non-conductive medium, cause maybe there are electrostatic considerations like small charge flow must be prevented in such devices and some materials are not so good for that.

For example, fiberglass used in pcb (epoxy and fiberglass actually) is good about such stuff cause both glass and epoxy are excelent materials.

Sure, fiberglass can be electrized but unless you rub that stuff with e.g. some tissue/silk it wouldn't happen easy.

The wood, instead, have very small leakage currents that could possibly give wrong signals to such sensitive "electrometer", cause zahori, indeed IS an electrometer.

So, it's like in gold leafs electrometer the glass acts as insulant there and leafs are just connected to the rod and far away other conductive mediums.

Now, the problem is: if the zahori is just an electrometer (and indeed it is) how can it show the presence of a target ???

We must face the "fact" we need an electric field around a target to explain why the zahori could work as lrl for real.

So, is there any electric field ??????

Very confusing... I don't understand why the target must show, inside soil, a different potential than soil around !

What do you think about ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Max

Hi Esteban,
I see... so it's fiberglass or gum (I think you maybe mean "rubber") that it's there as non-conductive medium, cause maybe there are electrostatic considerations like small charge flow must be prevented in such devices and some materials are not so good for that.

For example, fiberglass used in pcb (epoxy and fiberglass actually) is good about such stuff cause both glass and epoxy are excelent materials.

Sure, fiberglass can be electrized but unless you rub that stuff with e.g. some tissue/silk it wouldn't happen easy.

The wood, instead, have very small leakage currents that could possibly give wrong signals to such sensitive "electrometer", cause zahori, indeed IS an electrometer.

So, it's like in gold leafs electrometer the glass acts as insulant there and leafs are just connected to the rod and far away other conductive mediums.

Now, the problem is: if the zahori is just an electrometer (and indeed it is) how can it show the presence of a target ???

We must face the "fact" we need an electric field around a target to explain why the zahori could work as lrl for real.

So, is there any electric field ??????

Very confusing... I don't understand why the target must show, inside soil, a different potential than soil around !

What do you think about ?

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max,

Of course, the theme is the electric field around targets buried for long time.

The fiberglass PCB, I think, is a good isolator, better than common PCB. Fugue of small current in common PCB is not good. You can barnished the isolator PCB pieces used for antennas and the wood. Maybe Zahori is good in metal box, but don't know.

Regards

Esteban

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Hi Max,

Of course, the theme is the electric field around targets buried for long time.

The fiberglass PCB, I think, is a good isolator, better than common PCB. Fugue of small current in common PCB is not good. You can barnished the isolator PCB pieces used for antennas and the wood. Maybe Zahori is good in metal box, but don't know.

Regards

Esteban

Glass is usally excellent, you could use a broken lamp, or ceramic isolator for antennas...but maybe PCB is good enought.

[hung]

Originally Posted by Fred

Ola Morgan,
Eu pessoalmente não estou a criticar ninguém, simplesmente a explicar que ninguém ensinou com clareza como construir o aparelho, que o forum privado não ajudou nisso e que quando alguem tem duvidas tecnicas aparecem "moderadores" inesperados.
Nunca disse que duvido daqueles que dizem ter exito, nem do facto de poder (ou não) haver um fenomeno desconhecido, mas sim e desde o principio do meu desagrado por este pseudo-secretismo pseudo-privado.

Fred é Português!

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Fred

Glass is usally excellent, you could use a broken lamp, or ceramic isolator for antennas...but maybe PCB is good enought.

I think in it (and ellaborate) years ago. I cut a glass used for drink and put a fiber glass PCB recycled (round) for to sustain antenna.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by hung

Fred é Português!

Será que sou?
Il faut se mefier des apparences, mon cher Hung, c´est une possibilité mais ce n´est pas nécessairement vrai.
Le fait que l´on puisse s´exprimer en differentes langues ne prouve rien.
Il est un fait indeniable, c´est q´avec vous c´est un plaisir de brouiller les pistes
J´espere en tous cas, en faisant cela, ne pas participer la confusion aparente qui reigne dans votre esprit sur tout ce qui touche a la technique...

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by hung

Fred é Português!

Portuguese language from Madeira? Macao? Berlenga Grande? Porto Santo? Santo Tomé y PrÃ*ncipe? Timor Oriental? Cabo Verde?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Portuguese language from Madeira? Macao? Berlenga Grande? Porto Santo? Santo Tomé y PrÃ*ncipe? Timor Oriental? Cabo Verde?

Brazil ?

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Fred

Brazil ?

Island of Brazil? Island of Mozambique?

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Fred

Será que sou?
Il faut se mefier des apparences, mon cher Hung, c´est une possibilité mais ce n´est pas nécessairement vrai.
Le fait que l´on puisse s´exprimer en differentes langues ne prouve rien.
Il est un fait indeniable, c´est q´avec vous c´est un plaisir de brouiller les pistes
J´espere en tous cas, en faisant cela, ne pas participer la confusion aparente qui reigne dans votre esprit sur tout ce qui touche a la technique...

Oui , c ´est vrai, parler en differentes langues ne prouve rien..
Et moi,je suis portugais ?

Of course,ja,oui,yes,da,si,simmmmmmmmmmm

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Portuguese language from Madeira? Macao? Berlenga Grande? Porto Santo? Santo Tomé y PrÃ*ncipe? Timor Oriental? Cabo Verde?

Joga no LOTO,que com essa pontaria vais ganhar !!!

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Joga no LOTO,que com essa pontaria vais ganhar !!!

jejejejeje

[detectoman]

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[Geo]

Originally Posted by detectoman

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Maybe Zahori at few languages...

[epitopios]

Mr Esteban , i make the Zahori , now what do i expect from this
something GOOD ???? or something baddddd




friendly epitopios

[epitopios]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Can be this kind of coupling, but you can find others. Not sure the capacitance here, but is a kind of filter too. Maybe Zahori needs other filter for to reject 50/60 Hz AC frequency.

does it help ???


friendly epitopios

[Esteban]

Your choice is to made complicate version with much controls. I explain that your unique control must be 10 K pot. 2M2, put fix. 22 K put fix. switch for select frequency don't use. Fix capacitor can be 6n8-8n2. Pin 9 is free.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Your choice is to made complicate version with much controls. I explain that your unique control must be 10 K pot. 2M2, put fix. 22 K put fix. switch for select frequency don't use. Fix capacitor can be 6n8-8n2. Pin 9 is free.

So he made it...and made it wrong , uh ?

Good!

Everything you made is wrong for LRLs experts!

Why don't you post that schematic you say... without all this pathetic table-tennis of posts you made !?

Oh, sure... LRL-experts knows best ... how to made endless sequence of unuseful posts!

Kind regards,
Max

[epitopios]

Esteban wrote:
Your choice is to made complicate version with much controls. I explain that your unique control must be 10 K pot. 2M2, put fix. 22 K put fix. switch for select frequency don't use. Fix capacitor can be 6n8-8n2. Pin 9 is free.

Originally Posted by Max

So he made it...and made it wrong , uh ?

Good!

Everything you made is wrong for LRLs experts!

Why don't you post that schematic you say... without all this pathetic table-tennis of posts you made !?

Oh, sure... LRL-experts knows best ... how to made endless sequence of unuseful posts!

Kind regards,
Max

hi and I thank you both Esteban and Max for your respond
I put the shematic i make


can you show me the corrections
friendly epitopios

[mmlove2007]

hi

i nedd a pcb & part list zahori

hank

[Max]

Originally Posted by mmlove2007

hi

i nedd a pcb & part list zahori

hank

And a beer also ?

I think you have to ask our LRLs genius here... master of puppets.... I mean someone whose name start with "E".

Kind regards,
Max

[ma330]

HI TO ALL

I WANT BUILT ZAHORI YOUR OPINION ABOUT THIS CIRCUIT.???
THIS CIRCIT IS A NICE LRL AND GOOD WORKING????
I BUILT THIS CIRCUIT INTO Proteus 7.4 BUT THIS CIRCUIT NOT ANSWER TO ME
I VERY INTERESTING THAT BUILD ZAHORI.PLEASE GUID ME ABOUT ZAHORI .
I ATTECH AND SEND FOR YOU CIRCUIT FROM ZAHORI THAT BUILT IN Proteus 7.4 BUT NOT WORK.
PLEASE SEE YOU AND TELL ME MY PROBLEMS.

ZAHORI ATTECH FOR DOWNLOAD
TANK YOU DEAR .
WAIT FOR YOU AND YOUR GUID.