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Old 11-20-2009, 01:52 AM
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J.P what do you mean by "if" the locator works? Rangertell are telling you it will find you truck loads of gold........just point and...yup for a measely thousand or so they are going to give you millions $$$$$$$$$ can't get a better deal than that anywhere. yer right vincent!!! The Black Horseman cometh for you Vincent.
Hey...
So if it works for certain, then you can count on me buying one on the spot for certain.
And get ready to see a new professional web page with videos and links to all the major treasure hunting forums for certain.
... That is, as soon as I see the RangerTell Examiner that I am holding in my hand locating the hidden gold every time for certain.

Even if nobody in Southern California has a newer RangerTell Examiner to test, the old 2003 model will work fine for locating my meteorite samples.


Hmmmm... No PMs telling how to contact a satisfied RangerTell customer who will demonstrate it working yet.
But no worries... A PM will be forthcoming for certain.

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Old 11-20-2009, 04:22 AM
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So if it works for certain, then you can count on me buying one on the spot for certain.
And get ready to see a new professional web page with videos and links to all the major treasure hunting forums for certain.
... That is, as soon as I see the RangerTell Examiner that I am holding in my hand locating the hidden gold every time for certain.

Even if nobody in Southern California has a newer RangerTell Examiner to test, the old 2003 model will work fine for locating my meteorite samples.


Hmmmm... No PMs telling how to contact a satisfied RangerTell customer who will demonstrate it working yet.
But no worries... A PM will be forthcoming for certain.

Best wishes,
J_P
Yup, I'm just sure a PM will show up in your Inbox, any day now.... Perhaps within the next few hours.
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Old 11-20-2009, 04:22 AM
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We have decided to send you an Examiner free of charge. If you find it suitable you can pay us then. It's too hard to find a user in your district.

The unit will be sent next week if you give me an address.

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Old 11-20-2009, 09:38 AM
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We have decided to send you an Examiner free of charge. If you find it suitable you can pay us then. It's too hard to find a user in your district.

The unit will be sent next week if you give me an address.

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Bravo!!! Right way.

Expect the same from Mineoro (and other producers too) to send testing device to one of sceptic here.

Buyers have right to independent test review and second opinion too.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:08 AM
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We have decided to send you an Examiner free of charge. If you find it suitable you can pay us then. It's too hard to find a user in your district.

The unit will be sent next week if you give me an address.

Rangertell
Hummm.... I would not do it.

Not a single standard MD manufacturer does it.
So, in my view, LRLs should not promote this either.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:26 PM
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Not a single standard MD manufacturer does it.
They does (if not producers directly then ower sellers).
Where do you live?
Do you mean that treasure magazines are buying MD for test and reviews?
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:33 PM
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Hummm.... I would not do it.

Not a single standard MD manufacturer does it.
So, in my view, LRLs should not promote this either.
Are you getting nervous?
I imagine the private messaging system is being well used.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:57 PM
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[quote = Rangertell; 101.477] J Oyuncu

Size bir Examiner ücretsiz göndermeye karar verdik. Eğer uygun daha sonra bize ödeme yapabilirsiniz bulabilirsiniz. Çok senin semtinde bir kullanıcı bulmak zor.

Eğer bana adresi vermek birimi önümüzdeki hafta gönderilecektir.

Rangertell [/ quote]


good proposal
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:16 PM
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Where do you live?
You did not see? It's written up right where it says 'location'.

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Do you mean that treasure magazines are buying MD for test and reviews?
He's not from any treasure magazine. He's just a (potential) ordinary customer.

Also, usually magazines return the product after test reviewing them.
Err... well... after the reviewer gets his 'tip' or after the manufacturer buys some advertising space of course... Marketing is tiresome...
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:32 PM
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Your fear is now debunkering himself.
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You did not see? It's written up right where it says 'location'.
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:23 PM
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We have decided to send you an Examiner free of charge. If you find it suitable you can pay us then. It's too hard to find a user in your district.

The unit will be sent next week if you give me an address.

Rangertell
Hi Rangertell,
Thank you for your offer to send an Examiner that I can test. See your PM in box.

Best wishes,
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:03 AM
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:34 AM
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Yes, even the beeping pistols are silent.

Wonder if Vincent will make good on his "threat" to send J_P a unit to test?
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:02 AM
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JP if you honestly want to learn I will give you some pointers after you have worked with it a bit.
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:09 AM
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JP if you honestly want to learn I will give you some pointers after you have worked with it a bit.
Sure, Mike(Mont).
Post your pointers here.
Keep in mind, I don't do dowsing, and I am not in contact with my inner biorhythms, nor am I especially lucky at walking in the direction of treasures.

Thanks in advance for any tips,
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:44 AM
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what's that ?

new game ? old players ?

I like that... expecialli Mike's allucinations (too many peyotes there, uh ?)
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Yes, even the beeping pistols are silent.


Wonder if Vincent will make good on his "threat" to send J_P a unit to test?
But treasures are very "noisy", so is easy to "hear" it with coils.
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You can get started here. Don't expect immediate results. Practice the basic "belly" breathing here--slow breaths using your diaphram, especially before using the Examiner or other locator device. Twenty minutes should work. This is the path to meditation. I would avoid the advanced breathing techniques like holding your breath. This can be dangerous and you really need an instructor. Read the warnings.

http://www.abc-of-yoga.com/pranayama/

I really wanted to wait until you have some practice with the rod, but I can tell you to avoid fixating on the rod itself. This is a common mistake when learning any new equipment. You want your awareness on the search area, not the rod. Don't worry, you will notice when it responds.

Also, you want to be several feet away from the target. If you are too close, your energy field will interact with the target's field and you won't feel it. The hottest areas are the edges of the target's field. For a small target this might be a circle six feet in diameter. As you sweep the rod through the search area, try to imagine you have a very long stick and feel for the target's field like it is a big bubble. It's like there is a field membrane where the polarity changes. The target itself will not give as good a response.

I noticed you said you wanted something that works 100%. That's isn't going to happen unless you are perfect. I know ALL skeptics think they are, but that's delusional. The rod is only going to be as good as the operator's skill level. Typically the beginner is going to have mental interference. This might be more than you can overcome, so you are going to have to work hard at eliminating negative thoughts and doubts. If you can get the meditation down, your mind will be still and it won't be "your own worst enemy".

When you are actually searching for a hidden target, you might get more than one response. Put a marker down on each line and try to learn where you went right and where you went wrong.

That's enough for now.
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:15 PM
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But treasures are very "noisy", so is easy to "hear" it with coils.
Yeah, right. Too bad it only works in your hemisphere.
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:26 PM
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You can get started here. Don't expect immediate results. Practice the basic "belly" breathing here--slow breaths using your diaphram, especially before using the Examiner or other locator device. Twenty minutes should work. This is the path to meditation. I would avoid the advanced breathing techniques like holding your breath. This can be dangerous and you really need an instructor. Read the warnings.

http://www.abc-of-yoga.com/pranayama/

I really wanted to wait until you have some practice with the rod, but I can tell you to avoid fixating on the rod itself. This is a common mistake when learning any new equipment. You want your awareness on the search area, not the rod. Don't worry, you will notice when it responds.

Also, you want to be several feet away from the target. If you are too close, your energy field will interact with the target's field and you won't feel it. The hottest areas are the edges of the target's field. For a small target this might be a circle six feet in diameter. As you sweep the rod through the search area, try to imagine you have a very long stick and feel for the target's field like it is a big bubble. It's like there is a field membrane where the polarity changes. The target itself will not give as good a response.

I noticed you said you wanted something that works 100%. That's isn't going to happen unless you are perfect. I know ALL skeptics think they are, but that's delusional. The rod is only going to be as good as the operator's skill level. Typically the beginner is going to have mental interference. This might be more than you can overcome, so you are going to have to work hard at eliminating negative thoughts and doubts. If you can get the meditation down, your mind will be still and it won't be "your own worst enemy".

When you are actually searching for a hidden target, you might get more than one response. Put a marker down on each line and try to learn where you went right and where you went wrong.

That's enough for now.
Wow! A lot of what you are stating and recommending sounds like preparations and training for ordinary dowsing. From the RangerTell claims and advertisements (and Dr. Hung) I got the impression the Examiner has nothing to do with dowsing; but is strictly based on physics(?), the electronic circuits and the numbers plugged into the calculator; not dowsing. Thus, mental state, breathing exercises and thinking processes should have absolutely no influence on the results whatsoever.

So! What's the story here? Is the RT Examiner just another dowsing rod, like a bent coat hanger, or your Revelation rod?
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When I say keep your awareness on the search area, I don't mean to stare at it with a sharp focus. You are not supposed to be using any of your five senses, especailly your eyes. So use a soft focus and that's mainly for the rod. Remember anytime you are using a conscious effort, you are blocking out the subtle energies. All this is difficult, almost overwhelming, to perform when you have so many things to remember. It just takes time to get to where you do it without thinking. As for the breathing, you should be able to notice you feel more relaxed, even feeling wonderful. They say you need to be happy, joyful when you meditate.

The key to breathing is to do it smoothly, like pedaling a bicycle. Slowly count to five on the inhale as you expand your belly, slowly count to five on the exhale as you contract your belly. Immediatly go into the next breath without pause. When you catch your mind wandering, just get it back to the task. It all sounds so simple but it takes a few weeks of practice.
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Mike, you have to be more specific. Skeptics who cater to the Coat hanger mentality don't appear to be very smart. To them, every thing using a hand held antenna is considered Dowsing, With their limited intelligence and closed minded prejudice, they are unable to comprehend the difference between an application of Physics, and an application of meta-physics.( Dowsing)

As an example, the years of confusion for Theseus, regarding the physics employed in many LRL applications, and the meta-physics employed in mental Dowsing applications, has obviously caused irreversible damage to his brain cells, and rational thinking.

Be careful how you try to explain the difference. The Scientific pretenders mind cannot handle the truth. Theseus, has shown that he can become irrational in the defense of imaginary beliefs. A once rational, and no doubt brilliant mind, now wasted by egotism, irresponsibility, Scientific pretense, stupidity, and a blatant disregard for truth, facts, and common sense.

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But treasures are very "noisy", so is easy to "hear" it with coils.
all the same BS from him...

noi way!

Now also noise... so one can hear for treasures!

What next !? Treasure will smell of something... ???

Snake-oil selling here... as always!
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Dell, that's why I mentioned the meditation. "What they don't think won't hurt them."
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