Mineoro DC2008

[Geo]

What you don't understand????
First buy a Pot Core with permability near to 2000.
2nd.. on it wind L1. L1 must have inductance 2mH. Wire has 0.2mm diameter.
Up on this coil wind one turn and connect it with big loop. This turn must be near to 1mm diameter.

That's all

[brain]

Originally Posted by Geo

What you don't understand????
First buy a Pot Core with permability near to 2000.
2nd.. on it wind L1. L1 must have inductance 2mH. Wire has 0.2mm diameter.
Up on this coil wind one turn and connect it with big loop. This turn must be near to 1mm diameter.

That's all

thanks geo.

I have a nice schematic like this and you will like it. Frequency controlled. Between 15khz and 36khz.
I published some of it.

[brain]

hello geo
Can we adapt this logic in dc2008 to this circuit?

[Geo]

No, this is a simple BFO and has nothing to do with the first stage of Mineoro or with the working principle of a lrl..

[Jeg]

Originally Posted by Jeg

Yes it is for electric field detection

Actually an electrostatic charges detector. If someone rubs a pvc pipe with a cloth, device will beep.

[folharin]

this system marks everything electrostatic!..so it is not what we are looking for in this forum...

[Geo]

The positive is that the Big loop don't catches electrostatics signals but only electromagnetics..

[Jeg]

Hi friends

What is your opinion for using plastic enclosure for Mineoro device? Have you tried it? Did you notice any difference in operation? Does it degrade the operation of the device due to the fact that creates more electrostatics than wood??

Geo i have noticed that my Mineoro needs some time to stabilize its output amplitude. It needs some minutes during of which the amplitude rises and i have to correct threshold again for stopping it beeping. As i see it, there must be a drifting due to temperature. LM317 is on a heatsink, so i suspect the quality of my electrolytic caps. They are not of the best quality. What do you think about that? Have you seen this again?

Regards

[humhum]

Originally Posted by Geo

The positive is that the Big loop don't catches electrostatics signals but only electromagnetics..

Yes , LW from RF station
Plastic Tube is İonic Receiver for very High Frequency :Д

[brain]

hi what did you find with geo.Dc2008. Would you help me with this topic.?

[Geo]

Sorry but i don't understand what u mean..

[Dubulumach]

GEO's Mineoro DC2008
Hi.
Today a friend gave me a DC2008 to modify it. He wants to replace the sensitivity potentiometer with a multiturn one.
I opened it and i saw that the previous owner had open it and had remove the black resin from the receiver pcb.
Also i saw that there is a problem with the oscillator (2N2646).
So i said that it is time for a reverse engineering until i receive the multiturn potentiometer.
I Must tell that my friend found some small objects (ancient coins etc..) with it at small depth (10... 30 cm).
I attach some photos from it...

Regards


HI GEO
Do you have components values or high resolution pictures of both sides ?
What is exact stimulator frequency of electrostatic chamber?

2N2646 is an UJT transistor. It means very sharp pulses at output. Right ?

Regards

[Dubulumach]

Hi all


Who could explain connection between static electricity (bipolar charges) and infra-red rays?


Any ideas why Alonso stimulate static chamber with IR-light?


Thank you !

[Geo]

Hello Dragan, how are you!!!!
With ir emmiting tries to enchace the ions that existings near the surface, especially at dark time. I have see FG80 models with one or two or none Ir led, so i believe that this method does n't do nothing.

Regards

[Dubulumach]

Hello Geo
I am well thank you.


Did you tried DC2008 without electrostatic chamber, only magnetic and electric receivers. Did he worked or not?


I don't agree with you about ions and IR light.The reason is simple - IR light haven't enough kinetic energy to ionise volume near the surface. If it would be ultraviolet light than yes. I don't think that Alonso have had ultraviolet leds in his devices.


Do you have HQ pcb pictures of DC2008 ?



Regards

[Dubulumach]

Another logical variant about IR light and electrostaric chamber/s is that the whole Alonso's story about is "smoke and mirrors".

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Dubulumach

Hello Geo
I am well thank you.


Did you tried DC2008 without electrostatic chamber, only magnetic and electric receivers. Did he worked or not?


I don't agree with you about ions and IR light.The reason is simple - IR light haven't enough kinetic energy to ionise volume near the surface. If it would be ultraviolet light than yes. I don't think that Alonso have had ultraviolet leds in his devices.


Do you have HQ pcb pictures of DC2008 ?



Regards

Yes i tried without chamber and it was working ok. This is the reason that i believe that ion chamber don't do nothing.
About ir led..... who knows if it is a ultraviolet A or Ir?? UB-a is not visible (if i remember ok).

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Dubulumach

Another logical variant about IR light and electrostaric chamber/s is that the whole Alonso's story about is "smoke and mirrors".

Brazilian theory was very simple and clever....
Construct a lrl with 2 or 3 different detectors inside. If one is working some times then we are ok. All the other will be good for difficult understanding.
A good way to protect their secret!!

[Dubulumach]

Mineoro debunked !


Magic word - Electrostatic separator

[Anonymous13]

I want to make the totem pd, is there a problem if I put it in a plastic box? Or is it necessary to place it on wood?

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Geo

Here is the schematic from the receiver of DC2008. For begining there are not values of the components but i work for it and for the full schematic.

Enjoy

Hi Geo

Is there are circuit with better resolution . also i having eagle software
please send my email .thank you
aft72005.1@gmail.com

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Dubulumach

Mineoro debunked !


Magic word - Electrostatic separator

[Geo]

Originally Posted by aft_72005

Hi Geo

Is there are circuit with better resolution . also i having eagle software
please send my email .thank you
aft72005.1@gmail.com

Hi Aft.
Sorry but i lost my hard disk (Crack) with most schematics inside it years ago. So i don't have schematics anymore

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Aft.
Sorry but i lost my hard disk (Crack) with most schematics inside it years ago. So i don't have schematics anymore

was bad news
Maybe you gave the circuit to a friend. Is it possible to get it? I decide to work on the plan.

[aft_72005]

Does anyone have the mineoro circuit diagram?