LongRangeLocators Forums  

Go Back   LongRangeLocators Forums > Main Forums > All-Electronic LRLs

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 12-14-2012, 09:32 PM
ikumi5 ikumi5 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 8
Default

hello ts
antenna=? (how many turns (Approximately ))
sorry i have no L meter

thanks and regards
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 01-20-2013, 08:37 PM
mustefa ubram's Avatar
mustefa ubram mustefa ubram is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Germany-Hanover
Posts: 320
Default

Correction circuit WITH 3914
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 06-26-2013, 04:04 PM
iron1944 iron1944 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 53
Default

WM6 great master help me?
This large square coil circuit instead of 5 khz alıcı.Ben ferrite rod diameter of 1 cm length 20 cm
use wire diameter and number of turns of the coil wound on the rod lazım.Ferrite how should it be?
Thank you.

http://k1306.hizliresim.com/1b/u/pm3y5.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 06-30-2013, 12:09 AM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by iron1944 View Post
WM6 great master help me?
This large square coil circuit instead of 5 khz alıcı.Ben ferrite rod diameter of 1 cm length 20 cm
use wire diameter and number of turns of the coil wound on the rod lazım.Ferrite how should it be?
Thank you.

http://k1306.hizliresim.com/1b/u/pm3y5.jpg
It depend of ferrite rod characteristics which are not known..

You can use the same wire diameter. First wind 50 testing turns on your ferrite rod and measure inductance. Out of this you can calculate total inductance bzw. number of turns.

For 5kHz preference:

your coil inductance have to be 1mH

and C1 1uF (instead of 0.02uF as on schematic).
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 08-06-2013, 06:17 AM
liubing liubing is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17
Default

Help PI detector project, 50X50cm can detect 5m, with 1x1m coil, which help me? Discrimination is not required,
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 08-06-2013, 08:00 AM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by liubing View Post
Help PI detector project, 50X50cm can detect 5m, with 1x1m coil, which help me? Discrimination is not required,
You probably already know who would help you dig at 5m?
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 08-06-2013, 08:11 AM
liubing liubing is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17
Default

I look forward to explore 5M
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 08-06-2013, 09:31 AM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by liubing View Post
I look forward to explore 5M
Good, pinpoint at 5m is +-2m. So you need to dig hole 5x4m. And not only one, there can be in hole some metallic ore only. Probably no problem for you?
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 08-07-2013, 04:40 AM
liubing liubing is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17
Default

I am here 20X20CM reach 2.5M, then undetectable basic thing that is buried very deep, but there are countless treasures underground, so I am committed to increasing depths
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 08-07-2013, 04:57 AM
liubing liubing is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17
Default

Who can provide the increasing depths of effective programs? Interested parties are welcome to explore a friend
Reply With Quote
  #111  
Old 08-07-2013, 08:22 AM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Sorry, but I will left all those countless treasure to you.

Not interested in 5m (empty) hole digging adventure.
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #112  
Old 08-24-2013, 07:35 AM
mahditala mahditala is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 5
Default help

Friends does not work on my device
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote
  #113  
Old 08-24-2013, 08:42 AM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Dear mahditala. This is a toy only, to play around, with intention to practice some basic electronic building and in hope to prevent you from buying highly overpriced crap as Mineoro, OKM etc., which does not work also.

And what is not working on your device, you got no sound out of it, or it cannot point you to golden treasure?
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 11-26-2018, 09:36 AM
edward edward is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WM6 View Post
Dear mahditala. This is a toy only, to play around, with intention to practice some basic electronic building and in hope to prevent you from buying highly overpriced crap as Mineoro, OKM etc., which does not work also.

And what is not working on your device, you got no sound out of it, or it cannot point you to golden treasure?
Hi wm6

I am working on this vlf receiver

I dont have ferrite rod 20 cm long in avilable

What do you reccomend me??

Can i use from shorter ferrite???
Reply With Quote
  #115  
Old 11-26-2018, 12:09 PM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edward View Post

Can i use from shorter ferrite???


You can use ferrite from an old transistor MW radio.


As long you maintain ferrite antenna at 57mH, by proper number of turns,
band limits with proposed C values will be OK.


Answer on how to establish proper number of turns, you can find here.


http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...5&postcount=30
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #116  
Old 11-26-2018, 02:12 PM
edward edward is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WM6 View Post
You can use ferrite from an old transistor MW radio.


As long you maintain ferrite antenna at 57mH, by proper number of turns,
band limits with proposed C values will be OK.

Answer on how to establish proper number of turns, you can find here.


http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...5&postcount=30
You mean if i changed the length of the ferrite i need to set the inductance to 57 mH by changing number of turns
Ok
About vu meter: 1 mili amper full scale does not exist how can i measure the signal strength?? (Except using leds)
Reply With Quote
  #117  
Old 11-26-2018, 04:04 PM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edward View Post
You mean if i changed the length of the ferrite i need to set the inductance to 57 mH by changing number of turns
Ok

By various length or diameter or Ferrite brands (composition) you need

to set inductance to 57mH by proper number of turns.
Otherwise you need to recalculate all bad capacitors.





Quote:
Originally Posted by edward View Post
About vu meter: 1 mili amper full scale does not exist how can i measure the signal strength?? (Except using leds)

Stay with in schematic proposed LED indicator.
You do not need 1mA VU meter.
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #118  
Old 11-26-2018, 04:41 PM
edward edward is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WM6 View Post
By various length or diameter or Ferrite brands (composition) you need

to set inductance to 57mH by proper number of turns.
Otherwise you need to recalculate all bad capacitors.







Stay with in schematic proposed LED indicator.
You do not need 1mA VU meter.

How can i recalculate the capacitors?
Reply With Quote
  #119  
Old 11-26-2018, 04:47 PM
abdou2014 abdou2014 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,042
Default

the antenna of my gold gun is 59mH

https://ibb.co/mMNpy0

what can I have with this schematic ???
Reply With Quote
  #120  
Old 11-26-2018, 04:52 PM
edward edward is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by abdou2014 View Post
the antenna of my gold gun is 59mH

https://ibb.co/mMNpy0

what can I have with this schematic ???
This is gold gun???

The gold gun includes tow 3.5 cm ferrite rods with 337 turns wire 0.2 mm from center of each rod
Reply With Quote
  #121  
Old 11-26-2018, 05:37 PM
abdou2014 abdou2014 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,042
Default

Mr WM6 Is the transmitter essential ?
where should the transmitter be fixed ?
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 11-26-2018, 06:35 PM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edward View Post
How can i recalculate the capacitors?

Corrections my typo in previous post: Not " all bad capacitors." but "all band capacitors".



You can use one of online LC tank calculators with known variables L and frequency band.

I suggest you not to change C value, but to establish L of ferrite antenna at 57mH by proper numbers of turns.
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 11-26-2018, 06:42 PM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by abdou2014 View Post
Mr WM6 Is the transmitter essential ?
where should the transmitter be fixed ?

Of course it is essential.


TX is your separate multi frequency device or existing (military) sender working at about 30kHz.

RX to TX should be oriented like this example with Gold Gun:

__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 11-26-2018, 07:30 PM
abdou2014 abdou2014 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,042
Default

is this receiver capable of detecting the earth's magnetic field ?
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 11-26-2018, 08:22 PM
WM6's Avatar
WM6 WM6 is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Borovnica, Slovenia
Posts: 2,392
Default

On lower band, if you move sensor to fast.
__________________
Global capital is ruining your life?
You have right to self-defence!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.