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Old 04-29-2011, 03:07 AM
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If so, the ferrite input is fantastic (better than mine) but the 348 input is very very hight. You must make better null. My signal is less than 30mv p-p.

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I am not young man , sometimes with error . sorry for my mistake .
Measured on collector of T9 signal was 350mv pp,
Measured on LC tuning signal was 30 mv pp
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30mv is OK. So i can't give you solution to your problem about instability

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30mv is OK. So i can't give you solution to your problem about instability

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Thanks for your help , as doing some work with PD now , I think
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Hi Morgan
My question about PD ,
I remember Esteban said transmitter “eat energy filed “in other words transmitter , damaged energy filed !!!!!!
in your movie detected your gold medallion for several
Times by black and red PD , without any decrease energy filed !!!!!!!!!
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My question about PD ,
I remember Esteban said transmitter “eat energy filed “in other words transmitter , damaged energy filed !!!!!!
in your movie detected your gold medallion for several
Times by black and red PD , without any decrease energy filed !!!!!!!!!
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The PD absorbe part of the energy field,but this happens if you insist maybe more than one minute pinpointing in the target direction. You see in the PD movie,we are not using PD more than a few seconds,anyway the Alonso coil is small,eat very slowly the energy around the target,maybe he made small coil becouse of this.

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The PD absorbe part of the energy field,but this happens if you insist maybe more than one minute pinpointing in the target direction. You see in the PD movie,we are not using PD more than a few seconds,anyway the Alonso coil is small,eat very slowly the energy around the target,maybe he made small coil becouse of this.

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When only ferrite+PCB5+555 powered, can it detect your gold medallion?
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When only ferrite+PCB5+555 powered, can it detect your gold medallion?
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As Morgan told many times No.....

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As Morgan told many times No.....

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But strange , because my only ferrite can detect !!!!!!!!!!!
I am interest also what is Morgan result????
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But strange , because my only ferrite can detect !!!!!!!!!!!
I am interest also what is Morgan result????
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Hi Aft.
Morgan said it, not i.
Now if your PD works as LRL only with pcb5 then congratulation.
Go out for TH. This is what all we are looking for

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But strange , because my only ferrite can detect !!!!!!!!!!!
I am interest also what is Morgan result????
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The PD with only Passive RX +Ferrite cant detect the gold medalion.
But it can detect the medalion with Passive + Coil (with X turns) and other coil(smaller) stimulator.
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The PD with only Passive RX +Ferrite cant detect the gold medalion.
But it can detect the medalion with Passive + Coil (with X turns) and other coil(smaller) stimulator.
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References in this coil are not correct becouse this was one of the SO MANY coils i have test near the gold medalion.

This LRL is the Alonso´s Passive Receiver and the beeper circuit.
This can work in automatic,and is more easy for calibrations.
Is not so good for small gold objects as the Pistoldetektor,but is range for the big gold or silver objects is much better than PD.

here is the final coil :
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The PD with only Passive RX +Ferrite cant detect the gold medalion.
But it can detect the medalion with Passive + Coil (with X turns) and other coil(smaller) stimulator.



Hi Morgan
about only passive receiver in PD , yes you are correct, but I modified ferrite receiver also without stimulator Can detect as LRL .
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:39 AM
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Morgan said it, not i.
Now if your PD works as LRL only with pcb5 then congratulation.
Go out for TH. This is what all we are looking for


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Hi Geo
Thank you . I am not treasure hunter , but very interest in electronics about "how it works "
Yes, in my free times , will trying in real area .
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:18 AM
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I believe too, that you believe, because you are believer.
Yes, this is very clear , after some real test with real ultra stable PD , detected
Some metallic items and now I am believer, there are energy filed for long buried
Metals . at the first I am not believer seem you but …….
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Yes, this is very clear , after some real test with real ultra stable PD , detected
Some metallic items and now I am believer, there are energy filed for long buried
Metals . at the first I am not believer seem you but …….
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Very good news !

But what you detect at distance and what was the distance ?

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Old 05-02-2011, 11:00 AM
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Very good news !

But what you detect at distance and what was the distance ?

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Rusty nails, from 3 meters , deep 20 -30 cm .
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Rusty nails, from 3 meters , deep 20 -30 cm .
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Hi Aft,

If I understand you correctly, your PD is operating only in passive mode?

I assume the rusty nail is not detectable in an air test. If so, can you do the following? Find an area of soil where there are no signals with either the PD or the PI, and place the rusty nail under the soil at that spot. Is the target detectable with the PD after a few days, when the so-called "phenomenon" has presumably had time to build up?
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Hi Qiaozhi
Yes, used PD in passive mode, but my PD isn’t passive receiver from Alonso PD . I am sure modified of it working correct.
I think as you said, if burrier again it, maybe after pass times again produce phenomenon

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Rusty nails, from 3 meters , deep 20 -30 cm .
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Hi Aft_

But the story about rusty nails is not new,you told have this experience this long time ago,remember?

Well.i imagine you are more lucky finding some gold or silver...

NOTE: Change the frequency to avoid IRON targets,you do not need NAILS


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rustly nails? good inicio aft, my brodhy, morgan begin find zorrillos cave whit lrl

clavos oxidados? buen comienzo aft, hermanito morgan comenzo hallando cuevas de zorrillos con sus lrls
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But the story about rusty nails is not new,you told have this experience this long time ago,remember?

Well.i imagine you are more lucky finding some gold or silver...

NOTE: Change the frequency to avoid IRON targets,you do not need NAILS


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Hi Morgan
It wasn’t story , it was real . yes, detected first by USPD , again I tried with my
Modified passive receiver . also passive receiver detected phenomenon. You are correct
It isn’t new , I did LRL experiments from 3 years ago ,first as I not believe LRL detection ,
I dint like post nonsense messages here . I built more than 3 PD with various circuits .
One of them is USPD , it is my top PD . although I built clone of your PD , it is working .
I am sure in real test in real area . may be you don’t know , treasure hunting forbidden in
My living country . my real test is little . Government rules make search for long buried
Historical Metals very hard . therefore my experiment in real area is very limited .
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:35 AM
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rustly nails? good inicio aft, my brodhy, morgan begin find zorrillos cave whit lrl

clavos oxidados? buen comienzo aft, hermanito morgan comenzo hallando cuevas de zorrillos con sus lrls

Hi big brother detectoman
I couldn't understands your opinion.
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Hi friends.
I'm back from the latest expedition for a treasure searching.On recent location where for 2 weeks ago I took PD got serious strong signals by thatfrom each direction, but this week I got no signal with my powerful PI. the MDL was entirely silent.

I scanned the center of location to more than 20 meters radius around, it was entirely silent, so concluded there is no treasure, surely nothing.

from these I personally concluded that:
1- PD-detected place (where before was located by a MFD) was definitely a hot location.
2- with high possibility There is tiny gold( natural gold powder) inside soil which are not detectable for PI, but produces a noticeable field which is detectable for LRLs like PD.The PI especially with big 2m x 2m loop only detects dense targets (manmade)and by this moment have never got strong signal for soils.These were my latest experience with PD.Have any of you encountered such thing?Regards.
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2- with high possibility There is tiny gold( natural gold powder) inside soil which are not detectable for PI, but produces a noticeable field which is detectable for LRLs like PD.

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It is not "possibility", it is reality. There are nanoparticles of gold in every soil. But to harvest gold out of it, is better to use AlfaAlfa than your PD or MFD:

http://nanotechweb.org/cws/article/tech/9690
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