Dowsing Rod for 2012

[Geo]

Originally Posted by jack

I mean the old and new metal.The operator was not

The device can also find new metal?

Or is only found in old metals

If you will learn to work with it then you will have the ability to detect fresh and old metals.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by GOLDENSKULL

Hi dear Geo,

i am a dowser...
i built your device ...
please tell us which frequency we can detect gold , silver , copper and cave ?

did you test it for detect metals ?

i am waiting for your answer...

Hi.
You must "play" with the potentiometer.
For me, i locate gold at 33...34Hz, caves at 10...12 hz, Al at 70hz etc.
If you are a dowser then it is very easy, play with the potentiometer near a known metal and you will find the frequencies, then mark them and Good Luck

[Geo]

Originally Posted by teknoloji

I'm sorry, but this project does not work. I said from the beginning.
This is a transmitter, the receiver who then how you are.? If you run your hand to be a powerful transmitter.
effort, while a pity. : (Just stick your hand to get the same thing.
ilisyonis enough hands. for special people. If we want to do first before you have to choose a system that is running the bar.
1 - Static.
2 - bioenergy.
3 - the magnetic field.
4 - The electromagnetic field.
5 -?
6 -?

a system for remote sensing should be determined before.

Regards.

If you know about dowsing then you know where is the receiver.
Receiver is the dowsing man, this is the reason that i kept the duty cycle low (10%).
But if you are not a dowsing man then as i wrote many times this project is not for you.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Have you considered another more obvious reason why you cannot detect any treasure with this dowsing contraption?
Could it be that the basic concept is flawed, and it simply can never work?

Hi Qiaozhi.
For another time you have Wrong

Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by jack

please answer this post(59)

For me no reason to change the place of handle

[sakis1]

Originally Posted by jack

tank you
Why this way?
Please answer the question of image?

are better for functionality in this device, test, the cables remain as <schematic>


best wishes for the future

[J_Player]

Some basic principles of dowsing
(This works for dowsing with a stick, or with electronic MFD dowsing):

1. Dowsing works.
Anybody can dowse.
Simply take dowsing rods in your hands and walk around and watch for when the rods cross together or do not cross together.
Or watch for when the rod points to various different directions.
Then you have accomplished dowsing.

2. Dowsing is successful for finding buried treasures only for some people.
The people who are successful at dowsing do not tell lies.
They really are successful.

3. A successful dowser will find success only when nobody else is watching them, or when other successful dowsers are watching.
If a person who is not successful with dowsing is watching, then the dowsing ability will stop working for the successful dowsers.

4. A successful dowser will not be successful if a person is watching who does not believe they are successful.
If you set up a test for them to find which of the 10 plates you hide the gold or silver coin under, they will not find the correct plate better than guessing.
This is part of #3 principle where they will lose their dowsing power when a person who is not successful with dowsing is watching.

5. A successful dowser will always pass a dowsing test, maybe 100% success if nobody else is watching.

So what to say?
Dowsing works.
Really.


Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Some basic principles of fairy tales
(This works for fariy tales from movies, or from story books):

1. Fairy tales are real.
Anybody can believe fairy tales.
Simply read or listen to the fairy tale and imagine the adventure and fun.
Or watch the fairy tale at the movies and see the adventure and the special effects.
Then you have seen the miracle performance of the fairy tale.

2. Fairy tales work for finding miracles only for some people.
The people who see miracles and magical performances do not tell lies.
They really do see these things.

3. Fairy tale believers will be able to show the miracles they see only when nobody else is watching them, or when other fairy tale believers are watching.
If a person who is not a fairy tale believer is watching, then the performance of a miracle will stop working for the fairy tale believers.

4. A fairy tale believer will not be able to show the miracles they see if a person is watching who does not believe in fairy tales.
If you set up a test for them to demonstrate a fairy tale miracle, they will not be able to show the fairy tale miracle.
This is part of #3 principle where they will lose their ability to show fairy tale miracles if a person who does not believe in fairy tales is watching.

5. A fairy tale believer will always be able to demonstrate fairy tale miracles if nobody else is watching.

So what to say?
Fairy tales are really true.
Really.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

Geo, if you use the device as a dowsing rod then it is a dowsing device. Dowsing is mental discrimination. What use is the frequency then? If you want to dowse then you don't need the frequency. It is a waste of time.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Geo, if you use the device as a dowsing rod then it is a dowsing device. Dowsing is mental discrimination. What use is the frequency then? If you want to dowse then you don't need the frequency. It is a waste of time.

Crikey!
I actually agree with one of your statements.
Happy New Year!!

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Geo, if you use the device as a dowsing rod then it is a dowsing device. Dowsing is mental discrimination. What use is the frequency then? If you want to dowse then you don't need the frequency. It is a waste of time.

Hi Mike.
If you don't know how to keep the Lrod or how it wiil "show" you the object then you can't work with it. This is the reason who i say that you must know dowsing so to work with it.
No reason to give here a project that don't work.
I don't sell lrls.
Regards

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Crikey!
I actually agree with one of your statements.
Happy New Year!!

Ohh.. Happy New Year our sceptic

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Geo

Ohh.. Happy New Year our sceptic

[Geo]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Some basic principles of fairy tales
(This works for fariy tales from movies, or from story books):

1. Fairy tales are real.
Anybody can believe fairy tales.
Simply read or listen to the fairy tale and imagine the adventure and fun.
Or watch the fairy tale at the movies and see the adventure and the special effects.
Then you have seen the miracle performance of the fairy tale.

2. Fairy tales work for finding miracles only for some people.
The people who see miracles and magical performances do not tell lies.
They really do see these things.

3. Fairy tale believers will be able to show the miracles they see only when nobody else is watching them, or when other fairy tale believers are watching.
If a person who is not a fairy tale believer is watching, then the performance of a miracle will stop working for the fairy tale believers.

4. A fairy tale believer will not be able to show the miracles they see if a person is watching who does not believe in fairy tales.
If you set up a test for them to demonstrate a fairy tale miracle, they will not be able to show the fairy tale miracle.
This is part of #3 principle where they will lose their ability to show fairy tale miracles if a person who does not believe in fairy tales is watching.

5. A fairy tale believer will always be able to demonstrate fairy tale miracles if nobody else is watching.

So what to say?
Fairy tales are really true.
Really.


Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
Very strange..... you have the same ideas that i had 10 years ago.
Maybe after 10 years you to believe what i say today...

Happy New Year

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi J_P.
Very strange..... you have the same ideas that i had 10 years ago.
Maybe after 10 years you to believe what i say today...

Happy New Year

Many years ago I did believe that fairy tales are true stories.
But then after I went to school and learned things, I changed my thinking....

I no longer believe that Santa Clause came through my chimney to bring Christmas presents.
I do not believe the tooth fairy puts a coin under the pillow for people who sleep after they loose a tooth.
And I do not believe the Tinkerbell fairy flies among gold ions that float in the air.

But maybe if I travel back in time and forget about what I learned from education, I can believe again....
Then I can be like Mike(Mont), and all my wishes will become true.
... Except not his wish that skeptics and ordinary people who are not skeptics will believe his fairy tales... that is not a wish that will become true.
Only other fairy tale believers will believe his stories are true.





Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

We are not many, but we are funny.

[GOLDENSKULL]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi all.

i will try to answer slowly slowly...

For Jack and everyone who constructed the rod.

Before make any tests, must check if the generator works.
So a oscilloscope or a frequencycounter is needed. Output of 555 gives a signal with frequency about 30....700Hz. The output of 4017 gives a signal with frequency 3...70Hz about and duty cycle 10%. With a frequency meter you can check it.

If generator is ok then you can begin to play with dowsing...

Good luck

Thanks dear Geo,
i make another device like your device, but i detect gold by 5000Hz frequency...
which is correct?

and about duty cycle:
you say your device duty cycle is 10%,
you don't think that duty cycle for example 50% is better and give us stronger signal for detect more distance objects ?

[Geo]

Originally Posted by GOLDENSKULL

Thanks dear Geo,
i make another device like your device, but i detect gold by 5000Hz frequency...
which is correct?

and about duty cycle:
you say your device duty cycle is 10%,
you don't think that duty cycle for example 50% is better and give us stronger signal for detect more distance objects ?

Hi.
I don't know what is happening with 5Khz at my Lrod, i wrote what i have and the frequences that i work with it. Now about duty cycle.... i wanted to have more time for receiving, especially for "low sensitive" dowsers.

Regards

[Mike(Mont)]

A couple of observations here. FIrst off, Geo you have a lot to learn. I do not think you know dowsing or LRL enough to expalin it to non-users. What you are talkiing about is simply rod control. That's important and it is necessary for both dowsing and LRL, but like I said, dowsing is mental discrimination. LRL is physical discrimination.

I guess I can see what you are gettng at--someone who cannot use a locator in the first place will likely not get it right on the first build. I can certainly see that if the balance is not correct, that device you built will not work very well, possibly not at all. That's one reason I suggest to use it as a stationary transmitter and walk around it with L-rods to find the signal line to the target. That is why I have been saying (and I guess you are saying the same thing) a person should buy a low-priced unit and learn to use it before doing any experimentation. Vernell Electronics sells one for $285. That's going to remove a lot of the doubt and the likeliness of faulty construction on a do-it-yourself project. Again I will say by placing the transmitter on the ground and walking around it with L-rods, you are going to get a lot more accuracy than any handheld device.

[jack]

Geo Please help me to test this device.Frequency of 30-700 kHz at the output of my machine produces 555.
Now I get to test this device?

[Geo]

Originally Posted by jack

Geo Please help me to test this device.Frequency of 30-700 kHz at the output of my machine produces 555.
Now I get to test this device?

Very good.
Now you must check the output of 4017 and BC547 so to have 3...70 Hz.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

A couple of observations here. FIrst off, Geo you have a lot to learn. I do not think you know dowsing or LRL enough to expalin it to non-users. What you are talkiing about is simply rod control. That's important and it is necessary for both dowsing and LRL, but like I said, dowsing is mental discrimination. LRL is physical discrimination.

I guess I can see what you are gettng at--someone who cannot use a locator in the first place will likely not get it right on the first build. I can certainly see that if the balance is not correct, that device you built will not work very well, possibly not at all. That's one reason I suggest to use it as a stationary transmitter and walk around it with L-rods to find the signal line to the target. That is why I have been saying (and I guess you are saying the same thing) a person should buy a low-priced unit and learn to use it before doing any experimentation. Vernell Electronics sells one for $285. That's going to remove a lot of the doubt and the likeliness of faulty construction on a do-it-yourself project. Again I will say by placing the transmitter on the ground and walking around it with L-rods, you are going to get a lot more accuracy than any handheld device.

It is not easy for someone who don't know dowsing to keep the Lrod very stable and balanced when he walk. He need long time to learn it, this is the reason that i say "if he is not a dowser to let it".
This Lrod is more easy and simple than a generator who gives the signal in the ground via 2 electrodes, and ofcourse is very cheap. Who is better ..... this is another story or we can see it at another thread.

[jack]

Originally Posted by Geo

Very good.
Now you must check the output of 4017 and BC547 so to have 3...70 Hz.

I'm in my Geo 3 IC 4017 and the collector base 547 between 30-70 Hz frequency.
Now I try to test the practicality of this device؟
tank you dear geo

[Geo]

Originally Posted by jack

I'm in my Geo 3 IC 4017 and the collector base 547 between 30-70 Hz frequency.
Now I try to test the practicality of this device؟
tank you dear geo

Very good.
It is better to buried a piece of copper or Al and let it there for 1...2 months. Or if you know a place with buried objects then it is more better. Walk slowly slowly with the Lrod balanced (the antenna must be at horizontal position), and change the potentiometer until antenna turns to the object position. When you will make it, dig and take out the buried object and mark the position of potentiometer. At this position you will locate only metals same with that you found in the ground...

Good Luck

[jack]

tank you dear geo
Please answer the questions raised in the image?