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Old 04-19-2016, 04:10 PM
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I think this is no good, the better it's the stylus antenna.
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Old 04-19-2016, 04:26 PM
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Thanks Mr Franco
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Old 04-23-2016, 10:19 PM
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hi franco
Is the transistor bf240 increases the sensitivity of the machine, and you have a real testing ground
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:29 AM
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I can not test the Bf240, I'm not in Italy, Geo has had this idea, and we expect the result.
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:56 AM
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I can not test the Bf240, I'm not in Italy, Geo has had this idea, and we expect the result.
Hi Franco.
No better results with highter frequency transistor.
There is better sensitivity but the compass phenomenon is highter so we need to reduce the sensitivity. Total gain = 0

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Old 04-27-2016, 09:40 AM
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Hi all
it's bizard but if I connect the stylus antenna at the base of TR2 the mounting becomes more sensitive
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:46 AM
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Hi All,
It may be a good idea, but we must check whether does not appear the compass effect.

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Old 04-27-2016, 12:20 PM
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It may be a good idea, but we must check whether does not appear the compass effect.

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hi franco
I did some tests and there is no effect of the compass
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:16 PM
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it has been a long time I tried these methods . this device receives with the capacitor
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Old 04-27-2016, 03:34 PM
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Hi ouiarabe,
Have you noticed improvements with buried metals?
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:45 PM
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Hi ouiarabe,
Have you noticed improvements with buried metals?
hi Franco
I have not a good test fields, I buried for nine months two small gold rings from a few grams.
I tested in a field where there has a Roman ruin, the device responds in two positions but I have not checked well because of the presence of many people and the prohibition for treasures research in my country .

Finally, please forgive me for my language
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:38 PM
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the base of TR2
Not the best hand reveals the phenomenon

Increasing the lighting led when touching the antenna by hand
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:41 PM
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hi franco
I want an alternative to Transstor bf240 to doing my experience for TR1
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:45 AM
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The transistor TR1 must have a very high gain and even a high operating frequency, then I think go well all the NPN transistors of the BC ...series (the "C" type has a gain greater than 500) and a frequency of more than 200MHz, BC239C and BC549C they are fine. The transistor BF... series they have a higher frequency of operation but a lower gain, thus they are not suitable.

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Old 04-30-2016, 09:15 PM
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Thank you very much Franco
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:49 AM
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hi Franco
and of course all other
after some tests I found that the antenna stylus connected to the base of TR2 makes it sensitive mounting static electrical charge as the neon lights of the high voltage pouteaux and of course the hit in the hand, the assembly becomes like a Zahori
I will attach a video
the antenna left is the original and which is in the right that is connected to the base of TR2
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Old 05-01-2016, 01:27 PM
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Hi all
here is the video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1utYoRBidI

https://youtu.be/F1utYoRBidI
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Old 05-01-2016, 04:05 PM
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The test with the hand only indicates that the amplification is sufficient and that the installation is correct, but does not provide evidence that the LRL is working, for example, if L1 is composed of 5 turns the test with the hand is positive but does not work as LRL. The phenomenon is difficult to capture and probably will change depending on your location.
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:55 PM
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why
5 turns not good
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:36 PM
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You had different results for the two antenna. what is their location, I think : L1 base of TR2 and L2 emitter of TR1 ?
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:37 PM
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The test with the hand only indicates that the amplification is sufficient and that the installation is correct, but does not provide evidence that the LRL is working, for example, if L1 is composed of 5 turns the test with the hand is positive but does not work as LRL. The phenomenon is difficult to capture and probably will change depending on your location.
maybe you did not understand me
I mean by this video as left antenna detects the negative charges and the right detects the positive charges
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:23 PM
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You had different results for the two antenna. what is their location, I think : L1 base of TR2 and L2 emitter of TR1 ?
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:42 AM
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I did not do any experiment with other coil (L2) and the stylus antenna is directly connected to L1, also I do not think it's positive and negative ions, as the impedance of the input LRL is very low, what affects touching the antenna is the capacitance of the human body.
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Old 05-09-2016, 11:23 AM
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hi franco
The impact of the compass and the sky that appear when there is a lot of padding
I want to explain to me more afraid that I have a lot of padding and whether the piece affects the operation of the device
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Old 05-09-2016, 11:30 AM
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I don't know what you mean for "padding".
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