PDK LRL

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Max

If we wanna use immagination... it could also point at something say... Angelina Jolie!

That way could seems something smart rod !

Or not ?

If your LRL points at AJ, then it's clearly a trick of the mind.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Morgan

That´s great
Next hollydays i travel to AMERICA Lets find some civil war relics !!!

Excellent idea!
Carl-NC lives near the places where there are civil war relics. He will be interested to see your LRL find treasures at long distances, and take movies of it working so he can post the results he sees in the forum.

It will be a good idea to announce the time and place where you will come to find civil war relics. There are many other forum members who live in that area who will be interested to watch. If your PDK can really find treasures at long distances more than 3 meters, then you can have many people to watch and make movies, so they will all say the same as you say. This is much better than to only hear your words. You can also post these movies on youtube so we can all see what happened during the relic hunt with the PDK.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Excellent idea!
Carl-NC lives near the places where there are civil war relics. He will be interested to see your LRL find treasures at long distances, and take movies of it working so he can post the results he sees in the forum.

It will be a good idea to announce the time and place where you will come to find civil war relics. There are many other forum members who live in that area who will be interested to watch. If your PDK can really find treasures at long distances more than 3 meters, then you can have many people to watch and make movies, so they will all say the same as you say. This is much better than to only hear your words. You can also post these movies on youtube so we can all see what happened during the relic hunt with the PDK.

Best wishes,
J_P

Why not go for Carl's CASH and put that on Utube.
If the detector works it should be eazy to pick uo 25k have a good time in NYC. You can relic hunt after taking Carl's CASH ,Just think $25,000 .

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

Why not go for Carl's CASH and put that on Utube.
If the detector works it should be eazy to pick uo 25k have a good time in NYC. You can relic hunt after taking Carl's CASH ,Just think $25,000 .

Ahh... but we already know the reason not to go for the cash. Morgan has told us he is afraid that his Pistoldetector will be confiscated if he wins the prize. So he does not want to attempt to win the prize.

But if he goes treasure hunting in the civil war relic areas with a large congregation of observers, he will be safe, because the crowd of observers will not permit anyone to take away his pistoldetector. The average treasure hunter from the South has great respect for the propriety of a person's personal property, and takes a dim view of anyone conducting foul play on their turf. I already have visions of some big dudes piling on top of an idiot who attempts to take away Morgan's pistoldetector, and pounding the idiot about the head until he is senseless. However, I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to try this in the southern USA.

Now that I think about it, It seems like Morgan would be safe attempting to win the $25,000 prize, because it will be conducted in the same general area. If you read the rules of the contest, it specifies that any individual who attempts to win the prize will not be required to show anyone the insides of their LRL or to have the LRL confiscated. The only inspection of the LRL is is a visual inspection of the outside it to see that it does not use methods of traditional metal detection, magnetometry, or radiation detection, so the test is limited to the LRL only. The rules state: "Proctor may visually inspect the locating equipment, but will not open it". I would think the people watching this test in North Carolina would be very careful to see that nobody violated this or any other rule in the test.

But it is up to Morgan to decide what he wants to do on his vacation, not the skeptics of this forum. I think if he decides to look for relics in the civil war battlefields, he will find there are many long-time buried objects in these areas such as brass buttons, belt buckles, musket balls and numerous other metal items... maybe even buried gold bars intended to be used by the armies to buy supplies.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

Why not go for Carl's CASH and put that on Utube.
If the detector works it should be eazy to pick uo 25k have a good time in NYC. You can relic hunt after taking Carl's CASH ,Just think $25,000 .

I dont agree to go for Carl´s cash.
First of all,the PDK only works as LRL with long time ago buried metals,not with fresh GOLD samples.
The Civil War relics looks great,for searching with PDK.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Morgan

I dont agree to go for Carl´s cash.
First of all,the PDK only works as LRL with long time ago buried metals,not with fresh GOLD samples.
The Civil War relics looks great,for searching with PDK.

like the gold I see in your avatar! Sure!

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Steve in MS

So LRL works on other non-ferrous metals, not only gold.
Some have given the impression that LRL only finds gold.

I never claim that pistol detector finds only gold. Always I wrote here this works for good conductive metal. Even if you design a pistol for only gold and silver, a couple of bronze or copper coins will be detected. This is not problem. The important is to detect good conductive metals at certain distance.

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

A person wich built an absorptive type based some basic circuit I suggest him, wrote me 30 September 2008. When you move the pistol, signal income as AC even is target acts as a battery (DC).

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Ahh... but we already know the reason not to go for the cash. Morgan has told us he is afraid that his Pistoldetector will be confiscated if he wins the prize. So he does not want to attempt to win the prize.

But if he goes treasure hunting in the civil war relic areas with a large congregation of observers, he will be safe, because the crowd of observers will not permit anyone to take away his pistoldetector. The average treasure hunter from the South has great respect for the propriety of a person's personal property, and takes a dim view of anyone conducting foul play on their turf. I already have visions of some big dudes piling on top of an idiot who attempts to take away Morgan's pistoldetector, and pounding the idiot about the head until he is senseless. However, I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to try this in the southern USA.

Now that I think about it, It seems like Morgan would be safe attempting to win the $25,000 prize, because it will be conducted in the same general area. If you read the rules of the contest, it specifies that any individual who attempts to win the prize will not be required to show anyone the insides of their LRL or to have the LRL confiscated. The only inspection of the LRL is is a visual inspection of the outside it to see that it does not use methods of traditional metal detection, magnetometry, or radiation detection, so the test is limited to the LRL only. The rules state: "Proctor may visually inspect the locating equipment, but will not open it". I would think the people watching this test in North Carolina would be very careful to see that nobody violated this or any other rule in the test.

But it is up to Morgan to decide what he wants to do on his vacation, not the skeptics of this forum. I think if he decides to look for relics in the civil war battlefields, he will find there are many long-time buried objects in these areas such as brass buttons, belt buckles, musket balls and numerous other metal items... maybe even buried gold bars intended to be used by the armies to buy supplies.

Best wishes,
J_P

At the end, the prize is only for LRL RODS user or what!!!

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Excellent idea!
Carl-NC lives near the places where there are civil war relics. He will be interested to see your LRL find treasures at long distances, and take movies of it working so he can post the results he sees in the forum.

It will be a good idea to announce the time and place where you will come to find civil war relics. There are many other forum members who live in that area who will be interested to watch. If your PDK can really find treasures at long distances more than 3 meters, then you can have many people to watch and make movies, so they will all say the same as you say. This is much better than to only hear your words. You can also post these movies on youtube so we can all see what happened during the relic hunt with the PDK.

Best wishes,
J_P

The same pictures in USA take in the 80s I was posted. This team found great quantity of items. I understand you're the only qualyfied witnesses! If you really are scientific-mind, so investigate whats happens begining the 80s in Texas, specially Fortworth, etc. And was TWO TRIPS, 81 and 84 (maybe 85). DO THE 1,000 WITNESSES ARE INVALID, ONLY YOU AND CARL? DO YOU ARE BLIND OR WHAT? Or you cannot believe was made in South America since 1959?

Morgan: If you go to USA, lets they pay your tickets and other expenses. You was very benign. Remember?

[Esteban]

Maybe you have an idea toward wich location they drive

[Esteban]

A simple proof! Do Carl can proof he has the enough found? Do he can post here a bank document proof or similar? But, at the end, we don't believe in pics as you!

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

Why not go for Carl's CASH and put that on Utube.
If the detector works it should be eazy to pick uo 25k have a good time in NYC. You can relic hunt after taking Carl's CASH ,Just think $25,000 .

If not for the cash, the guy doing it will be a HERO , known not only in the detectorists world but also as a pioneer in discovering new physical evidences....

[Max]

Originally Posted by Esteban

The same pictures in USA take in the 80s I was posted. This team found great quantity of items. I understand you're the only qualyfied witnesses! If you really are scientific-mind, so investigate whats happens begining the 80s in Texas, specially Fortworth, etc. And was TWO TRIPS, 81 and 84 (maybe 85). DO THE 1,000 WITNESSES ARE INVALID, ONLY YOU AND CARL? DO YOU ARE BLIND OR WHAT? Or you cannot believe was made in South America since 1959?

Morgan: If you go to USA, lets they pay your tickets and other expenses. You was very benign. Remember?

Hi,
it's not about qualified witnesses... but scientifical proofs. The witnesses in the picture could also be serious people but this prove nothing.

The self-deception process that's probably related to LRLs shows and demonstrations is very tricky thing...

Which knowledge they had ? Which kind of tests were at that time ?

Double blind ? On sure, prepared location ?

No. That was all about swinging the LRL and found a coin ? What if the coin was found with the aid of a normal MD ? What if was found just by coincidence in some old battlefield ?

I know of battlefields where you dig, with just hands and nothing more... and find metallic stuff... whatever... no need of any rod!

So... it's the seriousness and reliability of method first of all, that make the tests reliable and trustable... not people involved that can realize by trick of mind something that actually isn't.

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Fred

If not for the cash, the guy doing it will be a HERO , known not only in the detectorists world but also as a pioneer in discovering new physical evidences....

HERO? Physical evidences discovery for other many years ago? I have papers since first 1958 experiment, so, why HERO?
If Morgan can probe it, will be by a pistol not designed by him... No, they are behind another think... MORGAN. DON'T BE STUPID! YOU WAS BENIGN ONCE, REMEMBER!!!

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Max

Hi,
it's not about qualified witnesses... but scientifical proofs. The witnesses in the picture could also be serious people but this prove nothing.

The self-deception process that's probably related to LRLs shows and demonstrations is very tricky thing...

Which knowledge they had ? Which kind of tests were at that time ?

Double blind ? On sure, prepared location ?

No. That was all about swinging the LRL and found a coin ? What if the coin was found with the aid of a normal MD ? What if was found just by coincidence in some old battlefield ?

I know of battlefields where you dig, with just hands and nothing more... and find metallic stuff... whatever... no need of any rod!

So... it's the seriousness and reliability of method first of all, that make the tests reliable and trustable... not people involved that can realize by trick of mind something that actually isn't.

Kind regards,
Max

So, scientifical proof only can be made them and a few witnesses... also curious. The pistol is made under SCIENTIFIC process, under SCIENTIFIC principles, is not a trick of magic or similar.

If they are real scientific, can start to investigate in his own country... there are 1,000 witnesses, also person who lost valuable jewels and was recovery by the pistol... The negators will be able for to do investigations, for example, in Texas... Or do you believe that the inventor and persons involved in the team planted 1,000 targets in 1,000 different locations? Let the negators made a small effort and investigate it... Is more easy to negate...

[Esteban]

MORGAN. DON'T BE STUPID! YOU WAS BENIGN ONCE, REMEMBER!!!

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Esteban

HERO? Physical evidences discovery for other many years ago? I have papers since first 1958 experiment, so, why HERO?
If Morgan can probe it, will be by a pistol not designed by him... No, they are behind another think... MORGAN. DON'T BE STUPID! YOU WAS BENIGN ONCE, REMEMBER!!!

Hi Esteban.
It is a fact: the one who will prove it in front of camera,( if ...) and retrieve something using it, will be a hero. Doesn´t matter if the idea come from somewhere else : this is how story is made, remember ?
And this can be appealing for some.
Regards,
Fred.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Fred

Hi Esteban.
It is a fact: the one who will prove it in front of camera,( if ...) and retrieve something using it, will be a hero. Doesn´t matter if the idea come from somewhere else : this is how story is made, remember ?
And this can be appealing for some.
Regards,
Fred.

Now your camera is the true and others no? Remember the history of Vivien Thomas, pioneer in heart surgery. He demonstrate in FRONT camera, but was NEGRO! I can demonstrate from here with a camera, but, of course, is not valuable, only the yours! Remember that I post a link with a film when was found at distance gold with pistol, in YouTube. So, they are HERO!

http://www.heart-valve-surgery.com/h...johns-hopkins/


Regards

Esteban

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Esteban

A person wich built an absorptive type based some basic circuit I suggest him, wrote me 30 September 2008. When you move the pistol, signal income as AC even is target acts as a battery (DC).

Can you "suggest" the circuit to us as well? We will need a basic design in order to investigate further.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Now your camera is the true and others no? Remember the history of Vivien Thomas, pioneer in heart surgery. He demonstrate in FRONT camera, but was NEGRO! I can demonstrate from here with a camera, but, of course, is not valuable, only the yours! Remember that I post a link with a film when was found at distance gold with pistol, in YouTube. So, they are HERO!

http://www.heart-valve-surgery.com/h...johns-hopkins/


Regards

Esteban

Esteban,
Please understand that i am not aproving or saying it is good , just it this the way things happen, just like your heart surgery guy ,Wright brothers,etc.
They guys you refer at may deserve to be heroes, but i have never hard about them, so they are no heroes.And if you have a video showing it, i have never seen it: you should publish it.
Also, i have never filmed anything, and i dont want to be a hero:i am not so sure this is a good thing.And believe me, i respect you claims as much as anyone´s else.
My camera is a good as your, just bigger

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Esteban

If you really are scientific-mind, so investigate whats happens begining the 80s in Texas, specially Fortworth, etc. And was TWO TRIPS, 81 and 84 (maybe 85). DO THE 1,000 WITNESSES ARE INVALID, ONLY YOU AND CARL? DO YOU ARE BLIND OR WHAT? Or you cannot believe was made in South America since 1959?

This is a great story, but for people who read this forum today, it is only a story. There are many stories from many years ago which are true only for the people who saw them. The real story that can be believed today is the story we can see now with our own eyes, not some story about witnesses from 30 years ago. What is the reason we cannot see this LRL finding treasure today?

The bottom line is: If this LRL could find treasure 30 years ago, then it can find treasure today. There is no reason to read papers from 30 years ago to believe when a simple test to see the LRL find treasure today will prove the story is true or not. Is it possible the story from 30 years ago is not really true, and a test for this LRL today will also fail?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Steve in MS]

Originally Posted by Esteban

A person wich built an absorptive type based some basic circuit I suggest him, wrote me 30 September 2008. When you move the pistol, signal income as AC even is target acts as a battery (DC).

Esteban, I suppose this is not a pivot point type device?
I think you will see there is interest in your invention.
Would you care to tell us more about it?
This is genuine interest on my part and probably many more here.
Regards.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Steve in MS

Esteban, I suppose this is not a pivot point type device?
I think you will see there is interest in your invention.
Would you care to tell us more about it?
This is genuine interest on my part and probably many more here.
Regards.

Hi

Is no pivot, do you refer type LRL rod wich pivots? No, this is not the case.

You can use different kind of circuit, any audio amp can do the job with the type of antenna. And I prefer round or rectangular aluminium loop. A core toroid with few ohms coil is part of it, but this is not for much distance. Small items give few detections (I presume the old target acts as a battery and when you "attack" you consume the few volts or milivolts around him!).

The important here is that you detect by what the "phenomenon" can provide to you.

I'll do general indications, but reffinements deppend of you.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Hi

Is no pivot, do you refer type LRL rod wich pivots? No, this is not the case.

You can use different kind of circuit, any audio amp can do the job with the type of antenna. And I prefer round or rectangular aluminium loop. A core toroid with few ohms coil is part of it, but this is not for much distance. Small items give few detections (I presume the old target acts as a battery and when you "attack" you consume the few volts or milivolts around him!).

The important here is that you detect by what the "phenomenon" can provide to you.

I'll do general indications, but reffinements deppend of you.

So any failure could be related to his skills or bad understanding of how to make it properly...

Right ?