This will change the world

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I guess it could be profitable if I went into production. The demand is there. I'm usually 1-3 months back ordered, but I am slow and only build them on request. Some are repeat customers, but most are from "word of mouth" references. I am very grateful for the additional income to supplement my $630 a month Social security. Dell

JUST READ WHAT YOU WRITE DELL.
THE BULL IS DEEP ON THIS ONE
DELL COULD JUST READ THIS PLEASE ! JUST READ IT AS IF IT WAS ME WRITING IT.THIS IS VERY DEEP DELL VERRRRRRY DEEEEEP.
I had to say it( Now back to lurking)

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Correct. We are proponents of science ... but this is not science ... it's pseudo-science. This contraption is a dowsing rod in disguise, so no mystery there then.

Anyway, what about the questions you have conveniently been avoiding?
Should we list them again to refresh your rather patchy memory?

I want to help Dell out ,so please list them so he won't think i an the only one.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Mike, is trying to share his knowledge & experience with both Dowsing & LRL, and there are others that gave up quickly.
Dell

Dowsing and LRL are ONE IN THE SAME. They both operate as a result of an ideomotor response.

If you think differently, I challenge you to post conclusive evidence, right here to prove there is a difference.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Steve, those are legitimate questions, but as you can see this a hecklers forum for closed minded idiots to exercise their prejudice mentality. Serious discussions of LRL are not allowed to progress. It is a waste of my time to try to answer questions here. Sorry, this is the wrong atmosphere to have serious discussions.

I participate here when I have time, because it is a wonderment to me to see grown, formally educated men, pretending to be Scientific, and go into such rages of childish rants when their ego's are threatened by someone of far less formal educational background. I do find some of the postings on Carl's, forum amusing. Dell

I got an idea, why don't you answer Steve's questions on your own website. Then, no one can post the truth right next to your BS.

Also, if this forum is so disturbing to you, and you only "read" it for amusement, why bother making replies? Could it be you'd rather "read" and "reply" here than build your backordered scam dowsing units. Think of all the work you could get done, and parts hot-glued in, if you weren't spending that time here.

[Fred]

Really Dell here you got me confused :

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I'm usually 1-3 months back ordered, but I am slow and only build them on request.

So, there are always requests and you build all the time right ?

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Some are repeat customers, but most are from "word of mouth" references.

Why a customer could want to buy more than one ??? do they expire, or don´t work at first time?

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I am very grateful for the additional income to supplement my $630 a month Social security. Dell

Well,considering how simple they are, with 3 months backorder and at the price they are,i am sure it make a hell of an income!

[Dell Winders]

Fred, what I said is truthfully the way it is. It is your own assumptions and imagination that are confusing you. Dell

[Dell Winders]

Dowsing and LRL are ONE IN THE SAME. They both operate as a result of an ideomotor response.

If you think differently, I challenge you to post conclusive evidence, right here to prove there is a difference.

We always seem to agree that Dowsing, is a sub-conscious activity that triggers an Ideomotor muscle response? I always read this is considered in the realm of Meta-Physics?

Carl, recently contradicted this and posted that Dowsing is NOT Meta-physical, and that Science clearly explains the physics involved in Dowsing?

Let's wait and see what Carl's, Scientific report has to say about the physics that causes my Map, Photo, & Information Dowsing to work, before you continue banging your vindictive drums of personal prejudice. Dell

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

We always seem to agree that Dowsing, is a sub-conscious activity that triggers an Ideomotor muscle response? I always read this is considered in the realm of Meta-Physics?

Carl, recently contradicted this and posted that Dowsing is NOT Meta-physical, and that Science clearly explains the physics involved in Dowsing?

Let's wait and see what Carl's, Scientific report has to say about the physics that causes my Map, Photo, & Information Dowsing to work, before you continue banging your vindictive drums of personal prejudice. Dell

Dowsing AND Dowsing with any form of enhancement, such as your do-nothing hot-glued electronics junk is a subconscious activity that requires an ideomotor response before there can be an indication.

Probably, Carl has reference to the physics of Gravity acting on your dowsing instruments, whilst you hold them in your hand.

Incidently.... if this forum is so disturbing to you, and you only "read" it for amusement, why bother making replies? Could it be you'd rather "read" and "reply" here, than build your backordered scam dowsing units. Think of all the work you could get done, and parts hot-glued in, if you weren't spending that time here.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Fred, what I said is truthfully the way it is. It is your own assumptions and imagination that are confusing you. Dell

Right. And you are clear in your explanations.I see:you take me for a fool.
Maybe we all have a confusing mind except you.
Remember this?

Originally Posted by Fred

Could you explain the meta-physics that makes dowsing work?

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

NO!

Well i found a tecnhical explanation after all.And in your own site:

"The specific Molecular Frequency generated by the electronics in the MFD provides the discrimination of the concentrated E/M fields by "matching" the resonating frequency of that selected element and establishing a harmonic relation to that specific element. In addition, it provides an overriding of the unwanted E/M fields allowing only the field of the selected (discriminated to)element to come through to be measured by the reaction of the L-Rods or electronically metered"

Really looks like a scientific explanation , doesn´t it?
Are GPS sells going well too?

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Fred

"The specific Molecular Frequency generated by the electronics in the MFD provides the discrimination of the concentrated E/M fields by "matching" the resonating frequency of that selected element and establishing a harmonic relation to that specific element. In addition, it provides an overriding of the unwanted E/M fields allowing only the field of the selected (discriminated to)element to come through to be measured by the reaction of the L-Rods or electronically metered"

Really looks like a scientific explanation , doesn´t it?
Are GPS sells going well too?

That's just the problem. It does sound scientific to the technically-challenged. It is this sort of pseudo-scientific claptrap that lures the unwary into giving Dell the contents of their wallets. The really sad ones actually come back for more, or even get their friends involved. Who needs friends like that?

[Dell Winders]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders
Fred, what I said is truthfully the way it is. It is your own assumptions and imagination that are confusing you. Dell
Right. And you are clear in your explanations.I see:you take me for a fool.
Maybe we all have a confusing mind except you.
Remember this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred
Could you explain the meta-physics that makes dowsing work?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dell Winders
NO!

Well i found a tecnhical explanation after all.And in your own site:

"The specific Molecular Frequency generated by the electronics in the MFD provides the discrimination of the concentrated E/M fields by "matching" the resonating frequency of that selected element and establishing a harmonic relation to that specific element. In addition, it provides an overriding of the unwanted E/M fields allowing only the field of the selected (discriminated to)element to come through to be measured by the reaction of the L-Rods or electronically metered"

Really looks like a scientific explanation , doesn´t it?
Are GPS sells going well too?

"The specific Molecular Frequency generated by the electronics in the MFD provides the discrimination of the concentrated E/M fields by "matching" the resonating frequency of that selected element and establishing a harmonic relation to that specific element. In addition, it provides an overriding of the unwanted E/M fields allowing only the field of the selected (discriminated to)element to come through to be measured by the reaction of the L-Rods or electronically metered"

Wow! Fred, your assumption really does have you confused. It's obvious to most that the above description has to do with physics. Dowsing is not even mentioned.
GPS sales? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Some of you seem to have an imagination beyond belief. But, dream on. Dell

[Max]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Wow! you folks really are confused. It's obvious to most that the above description has to do with physics. Dowsing is not even mentioned. Some of you seem to have an imagination beyond belief. But, dream on. Dell

Have you put some wooden boards around... ???

Don't wanna you'll be catch by the hurricane this time!

Who will build the omniglue there ??? On request... what a shame!

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Wow! Fred, your assumption really does have you confused. It's obvious to most that the above description has to do with physics. Dowsing is not even mentioned.

But it is on you site, explaining how your stuff works!

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

GPS sales? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Sorry,i meant GPR

[Dell Winders]

But it is on you site, explaining how your stuff works!

So? What's your point?

No, I haven't sold any GPR systems for several years. Inquiries from my website are referred back to the factory in Latvia.

After Congress granted frequencies to the FCC, that werer being used by GPR manufacturers, they enacted new laws. First, that GPR was outlawed from use in the US. Then after months of protest, new laws require all GPR operators in the U.S. to be licensed specific to the city, and specific purpose the GPR is to be used.

Also, the new rules required manufacturers to have their products tested, and FCC approved in a recognized U.S. laboratory before they can be sold in the USA. Unfortunately for me, Radar Systems, Inc never submitted their products to a US laboratory for testing, and FCC approval.

Accurate Locators, reportedly invested a big chunk of money in Radar Systems, and they awarded my useless USA/Canada franchise to Accurate Locators. It was a big financial loss for me that left me heavily in debt.

I can't make any claims to being any good at business. Dell

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

So? What's your point?

I´m getting more and more confused.I think your are good at that.

My point is:
-Are your LRL´s based on electronics or dowsing?
If it is on dowsing, i don´t know why you can explain how it works on your site but not here.
-If it is based on electronics, i would really like to know on what scientific (i know you hate the word) basis it works.You must know, if you have built the circuit.

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I can't make any claims to being any good at business. Dell

i wish i were as good as you are, selling what you sell between 300 and 1000+USD with 3 months of backorder doesn´t look so bad!

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Fred

My point is:
-Are your LRL´s based on electronics or dowsing?
If it is on dowsing, i don´t know why you can explain how it works on your site but not here.
-If it is based on electronics, i would really like to know on what scientific (i know you hate the word) basis it works.You must know, if you have built the circuit.

Wow! You just posed the $64,000 dollar question. Good luck on getting a satisfactory answer.

And, if he tells you it is based on pure electronics (no dowsing involved); ask him why there are still L-rods involved, and why they must be held in the operator's hand.

[Steve in MS]

Maybe these are some kind of disclaimer.
OK, quiz time, guess who stated this:

Please don't have the impresion that any single piece of equipment is going to find the treasures you seek.

The -----(model no.) has yet to prove its merat with a recovery.

(another model no) At the moment I really don't know the extent of its
capabilities, or of its limititions.

[Dell Winders]

Fred, I'm sorry, I was ready to hit the submit button to post an explanatory reply, when my computer disengaged me from the internet.

I don't have time to rewrite my post, and I see the peanut Gallery has already chimed in, so I won't waste my time to elaborate. But to answer your question, It is suffice to say that the products I build are not based on Dowsing, or Electronics. Dell

[Steve in MS]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Fred, I'm sorry, I was ready to hit the submit button to post an explanatory reply, when my computer disengaged me from the internet.

I don't have time to rewrite my post, and I see the peanut Gallery has already chimed in, so I won't waste my time to elaborate. But to answer your question, It is suffice to say that the products I build are not based on Dowsing, or Electronics. Dell

What? Not based on dowsing or electronics, that doesn't leave much room since pivot rods are mechanical, maybe these are divining rods made by the gods themselves.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by joecoin

http://www.h3tec.com/product.html


Gee, I can hardly wait to purchase one of these.

I dont know how much cost this new dowsing LRL. Its expensive i´m sure.
Each new lrl p00p box who go to TH market as allways clients,no problem if it works or not,or if cost 1000 $ or 100.000 $,i´m sure many people will buy it

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

So? What's your point?

No, I haven't sold any GPR systems for several years. Inquiries from my website are referred back to the factory in Latvia.

After Congress granted frequencies to the FCC, that werer being used by GPR manufacturers, they enacted new laws. First, that GPR was outlawed from use in the US. Then after months of protest, new laws require all GPR operators in the U.S. to be licensed specific to the city, and specific purpose the GPR is to be used.

Also, the new rules required manufacturers to have their products tested, and FCC approved in a recognized U.S. laboratory before they can be sold in the USA. Unfortunately for me, Radar Systems, Inc never submitted their products to a US laboratory for testing, and FCC approval.

Accurate Locators, reportedly invested a big chunk of money in Radar Systems, and they awarded my useless USA/Canada franchise to Accurate Locators. It was a big financial loss for me that left me heavily in debt.

I can't make any claims to being any good at business. Dell

WHY DID YOU CHANGE IT?
NOW THE WE ALL KNOW THE THE MAN ON IT WAS NOT YOU.
IS THAT WHY YOU CHANGED IT?
DELL YOUR ARE A MASTER SNAKE OIL MAN.
WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS A MASTER LIAR

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Fred, I'm sorry, I was ready to hit the submit button to post an explanatory reply, when my computer disengaged me from the internet. Dell

Your computer seems to have a mind of its own. I've heard you use that excuse before; that it dumped you off the Internet. I've even heard you say that evil "hackers" got into your computer and deleted a bunch of your files.

You and Mike certainly seem to have similar computer problems. Remember when he claimed someone hacked his computer and put a list of porn sites on it, to make it look like he'd visited those sites. Do you guys have the same ISP?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Fred, I'm sorry, I was ready to hit the submit button to post an explanatory reply, when my computer disengaged me from the internet.

Too bad, it was a logical question ,considering the previous posts...
And the reason you invoqued to avoid answering was not very convincing : your PC disconnects too often , and others comments has never been a problem for you before.
Anyway you gave an obsure enought answer, don´t worry.
I didn´t want to push you angainst the wall...
Fred.

[Dell Winders]

Yes, it is frustrating. The last time it happened was on another computer. It has happened on other forums as well. But, on other forums I Copy as I write so I don't lose everything. This forum doesn't allow me to do that. The only way around it is to write the message on word pad, and copy to the forum.

It does seem strange that I appear to be the only person here to ever lose a post? Dell

[Dell Winders]

WHY DID YOU CHANGE IT?
NOW THE WE ALL KNOW THE THE MAN ON IT WAS NOT YOU.
IS THAT WHY YOU CHANGED IT?
DELL YOUR ARE A MASTER SNAKE OIL MAN.
WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS A MASTER LIAR

Clondike, I didn't realize my avatar was so important to you, so here it is back again. Enjoy!

No! this avatar is not a picture of me. Is your avatar a picture of you? Dell