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Anyone who doesn't think ion detection is real hasn't done any research. The government has 'em. It's not a matter if they are real, just how well they work under what conditions that they can be detected from a distance.
Heaven forbid I bring up the word "dowsing", dowsers have been able to sense ionic fields/flows. Cosmic rays, solar rays, radioactive substances have a disintegrating effect on many elements. Somewhat off-topic, I saw a portable ion sniffer for negative/positive ions (under $200US). I think the site is http://www.negativeiongenerators.com and click ion detector or you can do a google search for ion sniffer and see some other info, too. Why negative ions? If you can find an area with high negion concentration, sit there for twenty minutes and get charged. Many say it can increase psychic ability. If nothing else, it feels good and it might even help cure sickness, depression, etc. Last edited by Mike(Mont); 07-30-2007 at 11:20 PM. Reason: added another paragraph 
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07-31-2007, 02:28 AM
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Molecular or atomic vibration, infrared and more... Hmmm, I remember all this in threads...
http://www.emporia.edu/earthsci/stud...1/lawrence.htm
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07-31-2007, 04:13 AM
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Apparently there is a lot of money driving this research. In the MMI survey industry, the driving force is primarily mining exploration that expects to get a good return on their investment. Some of these mines spend over $60,000 USD for a MMI survey, and expect a return much greater. MMI methods are also used to determine the presence of certain desirable minerals in the soil for agricultural purposes, to show what kind of soil additives would be helpful. The money driving the research into microbes is much larger. These metal-digesting microbes have been found in rock matrix over 2 miles deep within mines. There is a good deal of support from mining companies all over the world. There is also a large investment into this research by government agencies who want to develop methods for waste cleanup and contamination control. They discovered certain of these microbes can process nuclear waste materials to keep them from becoming soluble, and others that can help in containing other toxic heavy metal contaminants in the soil. The real bulk of the research is about microbes that survive and thrive in environments that don't generally support life, and process these toxic materials in ways to make them environmentally safe. In the path of all this research, researchers discovered microbes that survive in toxic gold chloride and other gold complexes that are found in the soil as well as in a laboratory. The million references I found on gold-processing microbes are only a small by-product of the larger body of research. What surprises me is that nobody in this forum has ever mentioned anything about these microbes or the mining companies who look for the presence of certain kinds of gold-digesting microbes to locate gold. This method has been going on for years. This thread may have all started out as a joke about Mineoro's claims that gold ions hover in the air above buried gold, but it lead to a large body of research that demonstrates and documents subterranean gold processing. It appears to me the subterranean gold ion methods used today are in their infancy. It seems that chemical and/or electronic improvements can and will be made to make better use of what the researchers have discovered. There is no fake science in these studies. It is all understandable and can be improved with real electronics and physics. Best wishes, J_P
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"Why negative ions? If you can find an area with high negion concentration, sit there for twenty minutes and get charged. Many say it can increase psychic ability. If nothing else, it feels good and it might even help cure sickness, depression, etc." ehm... there are also GIRLS!  Kind regards, Max
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07-31-2007, 09:30 PM
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08-01-2007, 08:56 AM
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Hi Qiaozhi,
Interesting reference about the chemistry of gold chloride. Here are some links showing studies of microbes surviving in gold chloride solutions and eating gold chloride in a lab: Report shows metallic gold droppings left behind by microbes digesting gold chloride: http://www.geobacter.org/press/2001-07-21-economist.pdf Here is a lab report with photo evidence of microbes transforming gold chloride to colloidal gold: http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/67/7/3275.pdf Most of the chloride compounds in that wiki reference could not exist in the ground in large amounts, but possibly in traces, in combination with other chemical reactions. In the gold chloride experiments, the foremost researcher into gold-eating microbes discovered that 90% of a single microbe specie died in the poisonous gold chloride. But the surviving 10% adapted to the toxic solution and digested the gold ions and precipitated them into gold metal that you see in the photos.The test with microbes in gold chloride in the lab demonstrated that microbes can ionize and digest gold. But the microbes acting chemically on gold in the soil are probably not involved with gold chloride as much as with other chemicals. There are several chemical processes that have been documented in different locations depending on the soil conditions. In soils with high organic content, the microbe strains that dissolve gold are mostly microbes that produce cyanide and organic acids and complexes which react with metallic gold and bind it in the complex. This complex goes into solution in the soil, and moves with the subterranean moisture. Much different microbes that live only on metallic gold surfaces are able to digest the dissolved ions and precipitate them onto the nuggets where they live. Various chemical mechanisms have been documented, but the researchers are still working to unravel the mysteries of how these processes change in different soils. Apparently the ability of microbes to adapt to their environment is an important part of the puzzle. Here are a few pages about cyanide producing microbes that are believed to dissolve gold: Microscopic plants and fungi Produce cyanide which is thought to have dissolved ancient gold deposits in alluvial sands: http://books.google.com/books?id=L8B...R_co#PPA494,M1 30 species of microorganisms including bacteria, yeasts, actinomycetes, fungi and algae were found to accumulate gold from laboratory solutions. This abstract also describes how Pseudomonas cells can be treated to absorb and desorb gold on demand. http://www.springerlink.com/content/u142554485g84k31/ Microbes moving gold in Southern Australia by various chemical methods: http://crcleme.org.au/NewsEvents/New...USIMMReith.pdf So where is this going? My feeling is there will be much done with the chemical engineering of gold-eating microbes to help extract gold from the soil. While this may be important to large mining companies, it is of little use to us treasure hunters unless we have some scheme to cause the microbes to precipitate the gold in large scale amounts concentrated somewhere that we can harvest it. Where does that leave us? A more likely approach for the average treasure hunter looking for a buried target or perhaps soil with high concentration of natural gold is to consider the electrical aspects of these microbe processes. Ground instruments? In addition to the eating gold, microbes are often eating other metals in combination with gold. Because these microbes are causing gold to ionize as well as other metals, we see exchange and movement of electrons, much like the "ground battery" Franco has been telling us about. Is it possible there are measurable anomalies that we could recognize as a "ground battery"? Would these underground movements of electrons be measurable with existing equipment such as ground resistivity? or SIP methods? Are there ways we could modify the current tools to locate the areas where this gold-eating microbe activity is happening? Atmospheric instruments? Measuring the soil is only one method that occurs to me. We all know there is an electric gradient in the air above the ground that increases about 100 volts/meter, and can go as high as 300 volts/meter in the winter. Assuming clear weather conditions, we expect this to be a uniform field over flat uniform ground. But what happens if there is an area of the ground that has a concentration of metal ions due to microbal chemical reactions? Would the electric field of the atmosphere show a measurable anomaly in the air around the ground with the metal ions, or around the "ground battery" condition? Could we measure anything with a sensitive enough electronic instrument that had proper shielding? Let the skeptics accept the real science they expect pseudoscientists to accept: We have already discovered over a million web page reports that pretty much shatter the myth that gold does not ionize in the soil. Perhaps none of us would have believed it had not some researchers photographed these microbes and measured the gold ions they are processing. Even though the concentration of gold ions is measured in parts per billion at the surface, there are people measuring it and pinpointing gold deposits. The question is: Are any of us as good in innovating electronic ways to locate the loot as the researchers can by using their chemicals? Best wishes, J_P
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08-01-2007, 05:09 PM
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Hi All
Perhaps this instruments already exist, the Esteban' pistol or Andreas' locator, for example! They have in common a coil that it generates a transmitter magnetic field and a receiver coil that it senses some modification 1 or 2 meters near the instrument. I think that the crucial point it's an interaction between the electric field above the ground and the artficial magnetic field. As Esteban says no alien technology but old VLF metal detector technique it's sufficient for our purpose! Tomorrow I go in ferie in Switzerland for 2 weeks and without internet possibility... Best wishes
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08-01-2007, 05:42 PM
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Yes, Esteban is correct in this point. Metal detector can sniff at some meters object size of a coin. A good system is off-resonance type at frequency between 60 to 160 Khz. Always, here, the problem is that this system need metal buried for some years for to be detectable. IR is very but VERY GOOD. No for to measure the temp, no, as a type of antenna that collect the phenomenom, an "electric field", or directly IR emission of metals. He post many types of pistols olds and news, so is a reality. I found a small object that EVER causes problem in electronic long distance detector, look in the video that is not very insistent for the size, but there are. The object I found (several times found the same type) causes a RESONANCE or microspark, DON'T KNOW, but Esteban discover this effect he call "effect E", at 5-7 meters of the detector-system. Download video here (take with cellular, sorry quality), more than 2 Mb:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/smrfnz More later the object.
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08-02-2007, 05:00 AM
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The object. Question that I can't answer: Why is very well detectable, independent of the size? During transmission of oscillator the frequency scape as spark in the gap an causes the good detection??? The off resonance detector is in combination secondary RF detector.
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08-02-2007, 11:09 AM
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sorry but can't see anything (spark ???) but just a thing that seems a BS of a dog that suffer of colithe and eats just spinach! Maybe is of Eugene (Popeye's dog). Best regards, Max
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08-02-2007, 01:22 PM
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it was interesting, who is the guy in this demo? Esteban? do you have more of these demos with more details e.g. excavating object and with more quality? if yes, please put for download. meanwhile; would you please share us in all of youe experiences with LRLs and your found objects? what LRL do you use? Regards.
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08-02-2007, 09:32 PM
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Hi,
sorry but can't see anything (spark ???) but just a thing that seems a BS of a dog that suffer of colithe and eats just spinach! Maybe is of Eugene (Popeye's dog). Best regards, Max (Here drawing with copyright.) The same as RObert, you're a good comic maker, but RObert is best than you! Of course, you're one of the follower! Please, go in your Tesoro thread an be workable your bad-no discriminative Bandido, you're an expert  on it.Wich is more important: If it comes of a BS of a dog or if can be detectable at 5-7 m, and a coin at 20-25 m? Is this your only argument? You, RObert, Mr. Ironclad (or similar name) and other small enemies make of this forum a low-language forum.
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08-02-2007, 10:22 PM
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Is in reference to this forum or what? Do you can feel a few shane? Please, leave far the bad words.
7/30/2007, 8:06 pm. Part of the text: The insults and garbage that appear on other forums can stay there. Here complete: http://members5.boardhost.com/MetalD...185840362.html
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08-03-2007, 08:25 AM
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about "(Here drawing with copyright.)" that was expired... anyway, you never posted any copyrighted material here ? That maybe could interest the Admin here, but maybe I've touched a sensitive nerve with that drawing! "Please, go in your Tesoro thread an be workable your bad-no discriminative Bandido, you're an expert on it." Of course I am. And disc is not good as I want but works, and I've found many good things with my homemade "no discriminative" bandido.  Well, I'd like having a total iron ignoring... but for now it's a dream, like with any other VLF. "you're a good comic maker" and you ? Read your posts. Oh yeah, you're a Buster Keaton follower... You want appear serious! But your theories and examples aren't less comic than my shows here. "Wich is more important: If it comes of a BS of a dog or if can be detectable at 5-7 m, and a coin at 20-25 m? Is this your only argument? " Coin at 20-25 m ? It was 1 mile or not ??? Now 20-25 meters only !? Your devices couldn't find any coin, at any distance... that's the real problem. "You, RObert, Mr. Ironclad (or similar name) and other small enemies make of this forum a low-language forum." Oh wow! Just for a comic strip and some more dog's BS! What a sense of humor! Problem is that those BS you're talking about cost thousand dollars... and for what ? For nothing! No science, no detection of anything but noise, nothing of nothing ! Just you can post BS here !? Have you the copyright ??? The spark, the gap, the brass... and a plumbing PIPE: recipe for mineoro! Or for some electrified plumber. Kind regards, Max
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Coin at 20-25 m ? It was 1 mile or not ??? Now 20-25 meters only !?
Who tell I can detect a coin at 1 mille? You're sick, man! Mixing all, no precission, and you're of the IW!! With this "precission" you make your bad coils!!! Problem is that those BS you're talking about cost thousand dollars... and for what ? For nothing! No science, no detection of anything but noise, nothing of nothing ! Your followers think you tell truth, but you're lying here! If you can't build a decent coil, how can you pontificate about other thinks? 
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oh yeah... yeah I'm the problem here! (for you and your fake business )my 22cm diameter DD coil on bandidoII clone detect 1eur at 30cm underground ! Bad ? Yes, I don't make good coils! Never do one! Facts talk for me. Oh yeah, sorry... you understand nothing of MD... just sell/ads gizmo-crappy-junky-LRL so you can get 25m ! Then appearing here to make the professor! Of what ? Of JUNK ? Only 25m you would like to see will be the BS level in your head... Nothing of nothing, that's what you offer here BUT some novel and dream about fabulous long-range-detectors to keep on the business. You're the sick here, very sick ! And all your followers and belivers. You're a tribe of nonsense... have no scientific argumentation, have no real facts, have no proofs of nothing. Just crappy thinking all the time, crappy advertise and monkey-business. That's what you are. Everyone knows. So find a good doctor or just get the money and shut your mouth.  Kind regards, Max
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08-04-2007, 05:12 PM
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As I said, I don't sell LRL devices. Proof the place when I wrote that I sell devices. In other words, you're lying, and the people who read first time, believe that you're telling the truth. So, PROOF I need, and the others. Show me the post in where I wrote I'm a LRL seller.
If you can't prove it, then you're lying. I'm waiting. But doctor against lies don't exist, you have not cure. And yes, I know how build MD and the "others", and you not. This is the reason you hate me. You detect a 1 euro coin at 30 cm? Good! Congratulations! I'm searching for more deepest IB/VLF MD, because with the old Heathkit GD-90 (built myself) I achieve the 40 cm for the size of 1 euro coin in not bad terrain, but demand very fine adjustment in the coils, you can't achieve, shure! Tesoro and others are OK for the ground controls and more. Also I build these types and I'm not conformist with these. Now I have official schematic of deepest detectors. Also electronic LRL detectors based on coils demands fine adjustments! As you see, I haven't followers, I can deffend myself, OK? * * * * * * * * * You're a tribe of nonsense... have no scientific argumentation, have no real facts, have no proofs of nothing. Just crappy thinking all the time, crappy advertise and monkey-business. That's what you are. Everyone knows. Yes, this is based in scientific method (the devices I build), yes real facts (your prejudice is since your short panorama, yes, OK?), yes there are proofs, but nobody wish to see, the worst blind is the person who don't want to see). Who are everyone? Where is? You? Where are the others? Where is my real enemy who can shut my mouth? The %&*@! (your preferred words) is your tongue. IW MD constructor! Ha! I repeat: If you can't prove the above, then you're lying. I'm waiting. Do you read the post on other forum? The insults and garbage that appear on other forums can stay there. http://members5.boardhost.com/MetalD...185840362.html For them, is not comic drops, has another qualification. So, make all us this forum free of insults, because also I can attack you easily in all the threads you are.
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are you OK ? Seems you're a bit upset... ? Why ? PROOF WHAT ? THAT "Nihil Roma Maius" SELL OR ADVERTISE LRLs ? Use your real name if your not trying to sell fake informations here! You support nonsense, read all your posts about spark, gaps and DETECTION OF COINS FROM 25 METERS AWAY! You act much like Hung did before... saying that NO, you aren't in the business... YOU KNOW MANIFACTURER/INVENTOR (Damaso of Mineoro in that case, now who ?)... that you're a witness of the LRL working ? Aren't you ??? You just use a nickname (just another) to mask your identity cause you was already pissed off of that forum by EDUCATED USERS that are tired of reading all that fake stuff YOU'D LIKE TO SELL THEM. "And yes, I know how build MD and the "others", and you not. This is the reason you hate me." I hate you ? No no... you're just funny for me. And that's all. Hate would mean I had bought some of these crappy LRL by you or some of your friends of the LRL-tribe here... BUT I NEVER BOUGHT ONE!  My friend (I've talked about) hates all of you... but not me. I found funny all this crappy world YOU IMAGINE EXIST. THE 25 METERS TOO! YOUR ARE BETTER THAN ANY PROZAC! "Show me the post in where I wrote I'm a LRL seller." Oh yeah... you are just SUPPORTER ! AREN'T YOU !? If you say "OK, I'M THE FAKE MANIFACTURER PLEASE BUY MY BS..." the GAME ENDS! You're funny, man. "You detect a 1 euro coin at 30 cm? Good! Congratulations! I'm searching for more deepest IB/VLF MD, because with the old Heathkit GD-90 (built myself) I achieve the 40 cm for the size of 1 euro coin in not bad terrain, but demand very fine adjustment in the coils, you can't achieve, shure!" Oh yeah, yeah you are a master of MD! I'm the brainless ! Sure ! "Tesoro and others are OK for the ground controls and more. Also I build these types and I'm not conformist with these. Now I have official schematic of deepest detectors. Also electronic LRL detectors based on coils demands fine adjustments! As you see, I haven't followers, I can deffend myself, OK?" You have followers... and need increase of number... cause if not you wouldn't post here anymore! No reason. Keep the business on. THAT'S YOUR (AND YOUR TRIBE) GOAL. "Yes, this is based in scientific method (the devices I build), yes real facts (your prejudice is since your short panorama, yes, OK?), yes there are proofs, but nobody wish to see, the worst blind is the person who don't want to see)." Scientific what ??? Funny... even scientific claims now !?There are proofs ... OK , IF YOU SAY THAT I HAVE TO TRUST YOU! For now I see only BS and PVC PIPES. WHY DON'T YOU WIN THE LRL CHALLENGE ? I PROMISE I'LL EAT AN ENTIRE MINEORO IN FRONT OF CAMERA, I SWEAR, IF YOU WIN THE CHALLENGE AND GOT THE JACKPOT! C'MON ... GIVE US THE PROOFS IF YOU ARE SO SURE OF THIS "SCIENCE". I'M AWAITING ! "So, make all us this forum free of insults, because also I can attack you easily in all the threads you are." INSULTS ??? Just for some comic strip ! The sensitive nerve again! You call me liar and then I'm insulting you ??? How ??? With facts ??? With truth ??? AGAIN (so we'll see who is the lyar here): WHY DON'T YOU WIN THE LRL CHALLENGE ? I PROMISE I'LL EAT AN ENTIRE MINEORO IN FRONT OF CAMERA, I SWEAR, IF YOU WIN THE CHALLENGE AND GOT THE JACKPOT! C'MON ... GIVE US THE PROOFS IF YOU ARE SO SURE OF THIS "SCIENCE". I'M AWAITING ! Best regards, Max
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As I said you, I'm not promoting nothing. I'm not representative of nothing or nobody.
Real name? Max is not your real name? Or yes? You just use a nickname (just another) to mask your identity cause you was already pissed off of that forum by EDUCATED USERS that are tired of reading all that fake stuff YOU'D LIKE TO SELL THEM. Nothing to do with me. As I'm not promoting sellers or brands. Who are the educated users that pissed off my person in this forum? Give me a name. One user is Michael. He not pissed nobody. And more a few, but nobody pissed off. Who are part of the tribe? Do you think I'm part of an indian tribe, also? This is in your poor mind, and maybe you are racist! Yes, I support theory, no sellers. Also, no theory of sellers. So, prove my implication. You have followers... and need increase of number... cause if not you wouldn't post here anymore! No reason. Where are the followers? Only persons that ask. Ah! You are scare if I can attract followers! This is the reason you want to invade all the forums, you're make-dark the understanding. So, you wish to carry followers. But no if you can't prove my implication in sales and brands. As I can't prove a workable LRL method, you can't prove that I'm impicated in busine$$. Where is the plastic pipe I use? Yes, you're confussed  .Who provides your bad information? Are you acting alone? Maybe not. Challenge? I have not interest in it. The only proof I can provide are video or similars, or what is proof for you? Public complete schematic? Of course, if you can't prove that I'm seller or promoting brands of LRL, you'll become in a BIG LIAR. Here and in other threads.
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you wrote on GSabre thread: "(And Max, I don't sell any LRL detectors. Also, I'm not the person who detect a gold medal at 700-800 m with electronic LRL. I was a witness! )."So you are a "witness" (like HUNG), and support LRL-fakes, and know people that makes that LRL stuff and make such demonstration. You are a supporter of fake claims here : YOU WROTE THIS: " Yes, Esteban is correct in this point. Metal detector can sniff at some meters object size of a coin. A good system is off-resonance type at frequency between 60 to 160 Khz. Always, here, the problem is that this system need metal buried for some years for to be detectable. IR is very but VERY GOOD. No for to measure the temp, no, as a type of antenna that collect the phenomenom, an "electric field", or directly IR emission of metals. He post many types of pistols olds and news, so is a reality. I found a small object that EVER causes problem in electronic long distance detector, look in the video that is not very insistent for the size, but there are. The object I found (several times found the same type) causes a RESONANCE or microspark, DON'T KNOW, but Esteban discover this effect he call "effect E", at 5-7 meters of the detector-system. Download video here (take with cellular, sorry quality), more than 2 Mb: http://www.sendspace.com/file/smrfnz More later the object." EFFECT E ? EXPLAIN THAT EFFECT E IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT! also you wrote: "Wich is more important: If it comes of a BS of a dog or if can be detectable at 5-7 m, and a coin at 20-25 m? Is this your only argument? "" A coin detectable at 25 meters: SO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. "Maybe the model or design is different but some devices by independent experimenters works great! Looks different but also works! Awake!!! If you can modificate a car, also you can modificate a discriminative 20 Khz MD for medium range!" A car is like a Metal Detector: SO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. ONLY BS. THAT'S WHAT YOU OFFER HERE. EVERYONE CAN SEE. About the "LRL-tribe", racism have nothing to do with my definition: LRL-tribe stays for a group of people here that share interests in this LRL "industry", and you are, without any doubt, one of those. Now with few or not at all credits... and so you need another nickname, mr. Wilson VLF 710. OLD GAMES, OLD PLAYERS as I've already said. "Challenge? I have not interest in it." Oh yeah, yeah seems nobody has... or maybe CAUSE NOBODY COULD FIND NOTHING WITH THAT CRAPPY LRL. No interest, yeah... BUT you have interest in filling the threads of fake claims. LRL = TOTAL NONSENSE AND BIG MONKEY BUSINESS. That's all. Kind regards, Max
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Horatio?
Wish I had the time to read these LRL threads more often.
Max better to stop this >Don Quijote< endeavour, this topic has nothing practical to offer.. Nihil Roma Maius can you give us a block-diagram or shematic of this Induction Balance Long Range Detector? Or just words?? As written (I belive by Esteban) Rx/Tx coils should be adjusted in pico Farrad range? This is all I know. Nihil from where idea for your nickname - do you also have same old latin textbook.. Alme sol, ... possis nihil urbe Roma visere maius "Horatius"
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"(And Max, I don't sell any LRL detectors. Also, I'm not the person who detect a gold medal at 700-800 m with electronic LRL. I was a witness!
)."Yes conical coil transmitter in 2 Mhz. AM receiver modificated. Nothing to do with Mineoro. Was many years ago. YOU WROTE THIS: etc., bla bla. And what to do with Mineoro and brands? Is easy to detect in distance 25 and more meters a single coin buried for long time at normal depth. The oscillator transmit via the coil and the RF sensor sniff –and also the coil– microvariations in frequency. You can show this minivariations via audio. The frequency sended by oscillator is like a beam. I don't said that a car is like a MD. I said: "If you can modificate a car, also you can modificate a discriminative 20 Khz MD for medium range!" Yes, I found many items with my electronic LRLs. The worst enemy of the science is skepticism. Skepticism is not only a doubdt-position. It is a pedestal from the one that looks with disdain. I said. The major part here thinks that they're helping the science with extreme skepticism. Think in the future. Who is going to recognize his mistake?
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Leto
I'll explain. Please, patience. My latin text for to study in the college was "Nihil Roma Maius". Roma gove to the world all the civilizated laws we used today. The USA is based in Roman structure. Roma fell down the year 476. USA born in 1776, exactly 1,300 years...
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Come on guys! Stop bickering.
 Remember the words of our adminstrator: "This forum is for the open discussion of either method. Because LRL-oriented forums can quickly degrade into personal conflicts, this forum will be strictly controlled. Rules are still simple:
Postings considered to be inflammatory can be reported to Admin by clicking the little red triangle icon at the top of each post. Please use this only when absolutely necessary... I would like to keep this forum as open as possible, and do not care to mediate every conversation." Time to kiss and make friends -  - or perhaps just a group hug.
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