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But I have seen a dowser. I saw some amazing dowsing performance. But I have not seen the dowser find hidden gold that he does not know the location of. So I cannot say I know he can find hidden gold. I am sure you can find hidden gold as you say. But this is not something I can truthfully say I have seen. I have only seen your writing about it. When I see it with my own eyes, then I will know for sure, same as you knew for sure what the PD does when you visited Morgan to see with your own eyes. Here is something you can try that may show how dowsing working without making a live demonstration. Take a look here at Gaucho's treasure map and see if you can map dowse the treasure. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...&postcount=143 I know you are not a map dowser, but maybe you have abilities you are not aware of. who knows? You can give it a try, then wait to see where Gaucho finds the treasure. Maybe you are good at it and you don't even know. Best wishes,  J_P 
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You don't understand. This dowser told me he is a real dowser who finds gold nuggets in the hills. He showed me a handful of gold nuggets he found. But I was only visiting him in his house, so I took one of his gold nuggets and put it on the floor. He walked over the nugget, and his rods crossed. Should you say he is not a real dowser only because you did not see him find gold nuggets in the hills? This is the same as me saying you are not a real dowser because I did not see you find gold nuggets in the hills. How can you know if he is a real dowser if all you have is stories I tell and he tells? I say he is a real dowser because he says he finds unknown gold, just as all real dowsers say they find unknown gold. But I cannot say I am certain, because I never saw him find hidden gold. Only a person who sees it working can say they know for sure. This is the same as you believed Morgan's PD would find gold, but you were not sure until you saw it with your own eyes, and heard the beeping from 2 meters. After seeing, then you were sure ... not simply hearing the story and thinking it can be true. So the correct answer is you do not know if I saw a real dowser or not. You cannot be certain if he can really locate hidden gold or not unless you watch what he does in the hills with your own eyes. Maybe he is a real dowser, and maybe not. And same for me. I cannot be sure unless I see him find the hidden gold. I only say he is a real dowser because he says he is a real dowser, and because he showed me nuggets he found from dowsing, same as you say you are a real dowser who finds hidden metal. The atom bomb also I cannot know for certain. I can only rely on the historical fact that Japan surrendered after receiveing two atom bombs, and a war was ended shortly afterward. And I see a lot of photos of two entire cities destroyed by what looks like a single bomb blast. But still, I am not 100% sure from watching my body become vaporized from an atom bomb. Quote:
I have already tried the rods, and I have never gotten any response. Maybe I am not biologically equipped to get response from dowsing. I only know or certain what I saw, not what other people saw. So far, I never watched anyone find hidden gold with dowsing rods. This does not mean it is not possible. It means I did not see it. This is a fact -- I cannot pretend that I saw a dowser find hidden gold when I did not. Maybe now you can understand why some people will not say they are sure dowsing works until they see it work like you. Best wishes, J_P
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Hi J_P. I had the same problem for many years until my friend (teacher) teach me. After it the Lrods worked very easy. Now about all the other (for real dowser)..... i stop them because i am afraid that we will make this thread the same with Mineoro  ...Regards
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After you saw it work with your own eyes, then you had a change of mind. I think this change of mind does not happen except for people who see with their own eyes. We also see many people who are fake dowsers and cannot find treasures. The only way you can tell who is successful at finding treasures is to watch to see what they do. If you see them find treasures that they do not know the location of every time, then you can more easily believe it is not a fake dowser. For me, I have no opinion about whether dowsing can work or not. I will believe when I see evidence that convinces me. I don't think that ideamotor is the principle of dowsing except for some people who have a tendency to cause the rods to point where they think the treasure is. For myself, ideamotor principle has never worked. Not even when I can see the treasure. So I have personal experience that ideamotor does not work for me. If you are finding unknown treasures every time, then I think this cannot be ideamotor principles, but something different. What different principle? I don't know, and will not know until I have a chance to observe for myself and conduct some tests to see if I can identify what principle causes detection every time. But then I never saw a dowser find unknown treasure... not even one time. So I can say nothing about how dowsing works or does not work. All I can say is all dowsers who say they are real dowsers have refused to show their dowsing abilities in a test. Read the forums and see for yourself. It is true. They only talk about how they can really dowse. But they never let skeptical people make tests to prove it is true. Best wishes, J_P
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To this day he cannot find nothing by his dovsing rod (read his posts back). His "teacher" (if even exist) is only a little cheater or entertainer at the expense of fools like Geo. Everything else is just a matter of religion and not dowsing art. Typical for belivers is that: "My friend, i don't need all these tests.", because tests can destroy his religion which is unacceptable for all believers. So believers fight hard to defend his religion - the only treasure which has remained.
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You are the clever and we are the fools!!!! Thank you!!!! I close this discussion 
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Or do you say this because you presume your conclusions are true without testing his dowsing to know for sure what you are talking about? Best wishes, J_P
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Those "fools" was only to challenge you to go on a real test, not to insult you, so stay calm. I highly respect your knowledge and experience in field of electronic, but cannot respect your naivety in field of dowsing and "dowsing teacher" especially. Quote:
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By this, I mean you will explain how you found proof beyond reading words in a forum, and actually performed tests on Geo's performance with dowsing rods to determine that he found nothing. Remember, I am trusting that you are a person of your word to give an equally well documented test report. So here is my preliminary test report for the Rangertell Examiner: My Examiner test report: I received the replacement Rangertell Examiner many months ago. I unpacked it and photographed it, then I posted my photos here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...&postcount=637 I also made a number of posts where I invited anyone who is interested to come and try it out to see what kind of detection they can find. During the weeks after the new Deluxe model Examiner arrived, I performed a number of tests to see how well it detects hidden gold objects, and also a few other objects that it is intended to detect. The result was that I got no response at all. Not a treasure response or non-treasure response. I also tried this with a gold ring buried 2 inches in the ground where I knew the location of the ring, and got no response at all. At this time I concluded that I got no response from hidden targets, or from known targets. This made me think the ideamotor response was not working for me, and non-ideamotor response was also not working for me. I wondered why not. After reading a lot of Rangertell literature and reading a lot of skeptic posts and LRL enthusiast posts in Geotech, I thought there are only three likely possibilities that I know of: 1). I am biologically impaired due to nerve damage in my right arm that prevents the Examiner from working. 2). I am holding a defective Examiner. 3). The Examiner doesn't work for finding hidden metals. But I had no way to test to see what is the answer if I am the only person performing a test. So I made more posts in the Geotech forum. I invited others to try out the Examiner and see if it works for them whenever I had a chance. But nobody responded... not even the members I know live in the area, Next, I called nearby acquaintances who were willing to try it out. We did the same experiments I tried, burying a gold ring 2 inches under the ground where they knew the location, and also repeated the test when they did not know the location. The results showed that nobody was able to reliably detect the location of the unknown gold location. In cases where the person holding the Deluxe Examiner knew the location of the gold, I saw they found a good response, maybe up to 1/3 of the time on average. (Note: this is different than the response I got when I knew the location of the buried ring. I got no good response at all). These were preliminary tests to see what the Deluxe Examiner does. I did not perform a scientific test, because the preliminary tests showed that I could not establish a base line to use as a control that is necessary for a scientific test. What this all means in layman's language is the Examiner I tried did not perform well enough to qualify for a scientific test. After seeing the results I got up to this point, I figured my best hope of seeing some good performance would be to find someone who is experienced with the examiner to demonstrate it working and to show the correct technique to use it. So I made more posts in the Geotech forum, and sent emails to forum owners to see if there was anyone interested in demonstrating the Examiner working. Again, I found nobody was interested. At this point, I figured there would be nobody to show me it working in the field. But there are still more tests I can conduct. I can run electronic tests, and compare the signals I read to the signals I recorded from the previous Examiner TG model (These two models are identical, except the Deluxe model has an extra ground probe). So I ran some simple electronic tests. I found that the Rangertell claim that the calculator sends out a signal is true. I measured the signal from the calculator and I took photos of the waveform from an oscilloscope. I also measured these same signals transferred to the internal parts of the Examiner, which I measured with a probe on the antenna, and on the metal rod at the center of the handle. This made me think the weak signal coming from the calculator was being transferred to the internal circuitry of the Examiner. Of course, I could lie and pretend I did not see any calculator signal in the calculator, but I won't do that. The fact is The calculator signal can be seen by connecting an oscilloscope to the Examiner antenna and the ground to the metal support for the handle. I also noticed the calculator signal from the Deluxe Examiner was noticeably weaker than the signal I photographed from the TG model, I wondered why. When I looked closer, it became apparent the TG model uses a two cell battery that produces about 3 volts, while the Deluxe model uses a solar panel for power that delivers about half the voltage. This seemed to answer the question why the weaker signal. But It made me wonder: Wouldn't the Deluxe model be expected to have a stronger calculator signal? I don't know the answer to that. I suppose the extra functions, and the fact the Deluxe model has a calculator that does not auto-shut off every few minutes is the reason it uses the TI calculator, even if it sends a weaker signal. Next, I began measuring signals from the ground probe. This is a plastic box with a metal rod you push in the ground, and connect the attached audio cable to your laptop computer. I connected it to my home desktop computer and ran a long extension cable to the back yard where I stuck the probe in the ground. I took a Fluke digital voltmeter to check what was coming out of this probe. Keep in mind, there is an audio tone generator application included with the Deluxe Examiner to install in your computer that will send an audio tone out to the probe from your speaker jack on the computer. So I installed this audio tone generator on my home PC so I could select a frequency 0-20Khz, and loudness level up to the limit of the computer sound amplifier. Then I checked to see what was coming out. The oscilloscope photos showed I was getting a good sine wave from the speaker jack that responded perfectly to frequency adjustments I made at the keyboard and mouse. The meter also showed the frequency and amplitude were responding perfectly. So I made tests by pushing a stiff copper wire about an inch in the ground near the Examiner probe. I was able to detect the same audio frequency up to several inches depending on the soil moisture content. In dry soil, I could detect nothing at 2 inches away from the ground probe, but in saturated wet soil I got a clear signal that diminished with distance. I could detect no signal at 1 foot distance from the ground probe in wet soil. (Keep in mind this is not a scientific test, as I did not send a sample of this soil to a laboratory for analysis to determine the soil constituents, or the exact moisture content, or the compaction ratio of the soil sample where the probe was placed). Next I made a number of tests where I buried a gold ring 2 inches in the ground at various locations in relation to the ground probe. I then used instruments to detect any signal in a line between the ground probe and the buried ring. I took measurements in the air, as well as by pushing a stiff copper wire in the ground. I sampled locations in the ground and the air in the direct line between the probe and buried ring, and I also took samples away from that line to see what differences I could find. But wait.... Now I am drifting off onto signal lines. I already made my report on the the Examiner testing! And that is the report you said you wanted to read before you give your answer to my question about what test of Geo's dowsing performance you conducted. So let's hear what you have to report about your testing of Geo's dowsing abilities. Best wishes, J_P
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Regarding your 1. quote: It was posted to Geo, but anyway. You need to read my first statement (post #56) again: »To this day he cannot find nothing by his dovsing rod (read his posts back).« Can you see this: »read his posts back« (Geo posted over 2500 posts)? Geo is, according his own words, in searching for a big »known« treasure buried on aproksimately known location. He stated in his posts, not only once, that he cannot find by his different dowsing apparatus (not only by D-rod, but by mineoro like too) nothing worth. No big treasure: not from vicinity - nor from remote distance. Not even small real treasure. Nothing. I simply summarize his own statements. His dowsing guru teacher do so the same: nothing (except findings buried by his own, to show to naive what guru can). My claim. I am willing to prove this claim if his teacher are willing to undergone real test of his dowsing capabilities. Here is my ofer to those dowsing guru, if he win real test: 1000 euro in duty free cash + gold target + my excuse. I am prepared to carry out such test under fully controled condition, mean at first on my terrain (essential to prevent tricks). Waiting for guru answer. Regarding your 2. quote: It was addressed only to Geo (again: read again), but there is no problem to say, that I highly respect your extraordinary knowledge too, sincerely (!), but I do not respect surfactants way on how you test RangerTells crappy and expensive toy. Regarding your 3. quote: Nice! I am waiting respectfully on your Examiner final Test report (maybe better to say: we all are waiting). Best wishes to you too
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The WM6 tap dance to disguise the fact that you conducted no tests at all to support your claims about Geo's dowsing?  All you have is hearsay evidence that you read in the forum, and no real testing? And you want to pass this off as skeptical facts? You are an experienced and talented electronic experimenter, capable of building excellent circuity and equipment that works according to the principles of real science. Furthermore, you are knowledgeable of many obscure details of applied RF propagation which few treasure hunters have any clue of. This alone makes classifies you to be better qualified than most of us for building certain types of RF detection equipment. But then we look at your unfounded claims of what you determine to be facts about non-electronic topics, and we see you have discarded all the disciplines that are required to achieve the excellence you have attained in the sciences. How is it that you are satisfied to accept forum posts to be facts without first checking to see if your what you are posting for the world to read are indeed facts, or simply something you read? Aren't you using the same method that LRL lovers use to determine they have the correct idea? You simply read your selectively filtered assortment of forum posts and movie segments, then post it to be the truth, without checking it to see for yourself if it is true or not. Then you post it to be a fact? Did you ever consider that there are some skeptics who are sincere, and do not want to be associated with people who make statements as facts which have not been checked to determine if the source is factual or not? We see some LRL enthusiasts make claims that model X LRL really finds treasure because the great guru of LRL says it does. And model Y does not work as well because his cousin says it does not. What does this mean? NOTHING!! It is a bunch of hearsay stuff they read in some forum or email and want us to believe. The stuff you are passing off as facts is the same hearsay BS that you never tested for yourself to see if it is right or not. If you want to make posts to say Geo never found nothing, then go visit Geo, and watch what he does so you can see with your own eyes that he finds nothing. Then you will have a good basis to say he finds nothing because you will know from watching him instead of reading some forum posts where one occasion or more he made some post that helps to illustrate the propaganda that you are posting as if it were a fact rather than something you actually know. There are some people who are skeptical of LRLs and dowsing who do not want to be associated with people who publish their opinions as if they are facts, when all they really have to back up their claim is some forum posts they read. It is nice that you are waiting respectfully on my Examiner final Test report. But after seeing what you have to offer to support how you know Geo "never found nothing", I feel like I got cheated. It looks to me like you never ran any test at all on the performance of Geo's dowsing performance. So I got burned for thinking you would produce something substantial besides forum posts you read. No big deal. I have already published a lot of more information on the Examiner than you can read in the Geotech forum. The testing is not complete yet, and there are two more test phases coming that involve people all over the world. I will publish the results here when I feel it is an appropriate time. But don't ever try to trick me into trading my testing results for what you do to determine "facts", because that trick won't work a second time. Best wishes, J_P
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I repeat sentence falling out of your citation, fo possible blindness of blind believers: "His dowsing guru teacher do so the same: nothing (except findings buried by his own, to show to naive what guru can). My claim. I am willing to prove this claim if his teacher are willing to undergone real test of his dowsing capabilities. Here is my ofer to those dowsing guru, if he win real test: 1000 euro in duty free cash + gold target + my excuse. I am prepared to carry out such test under fully controled condition, mean at first on my terrain (essential to prevent tricks). Waiting for guru answer."
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Your test has a 1000 euro prize, which makes it attractive to people who really can dowse. If I was convinced that I am a good dowser and not very far distance from your test ground, I would be interested in getting an extra 1000 euros to help pay for a new PulseStar detector. But I would also want to bring some friends to watch the test and make videos to be sure there are no tricks, and to verify what happens during the test. If those conditions existed, then I would be happy to win 1000 euros for demonstrating how I can dowse (which I can't). In Geo's case, his travel expenses would be much more than any prize money he could win. I doubt he would accept this offer because it would cost him money to make tests for you instead of stay home and spend his time treasure hunting. Maybe if you set your test ground near where Geo is located, he will consider showing you his dowsing abilities. Keep in mind, the fact that nobody has accepted your generous test offer does not prove that you posted facts about Geo's dowsing performance. It appears you never observed Geo's dowsing performance, and do not know what he finds and does not find. Your claims were opinions, not facts. Best wishes, J_P
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"Regarding your 1. quote: It was posted to Geo, but anyway. You need to read my first statement (post #56) again: »To this day he cannot find nothing by his dovsing rod (read his posts back).« Can you see this: »read his posts back«? Geo is, according his own words, in searching for a big »known« treasure buried on aproksimately known location. He stated in his posts, not only once, that he cannot find by his different dowsing apparatus (not only by D-rod, but by mineoro like too) nothing worth. No big treasure: not from vicinity - nor from remote distance. I simply summarize his own statements." -------******-------- Regarding test. Watching and making videos are unlimited aloved (outside testing terrain to not to disturb sensistive dowser's)at least in my case. At the request of the dowser audience may be restricted too. It is about 1111 km distance by car, so one day "veni-vidi-vici" for good dowser. According my car consumption (Clio-Diesel, 80HP) of about 4l/100km, mean total about 100 euro for fuel, which I am willing to cover for winning dowser (looser travel on costs of its own). Picnic launch (prepared from me - near greek art) for three guests is free in all cases, no matter if dowsing fail or win. Fair enough?
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You are again repeating your hearsay evidence. You want me to believe you know actual facts about Geo's dowsing performance, when all you have is selected posts you read in the forum to support your opinions. You have no facts at all, because you made no observations or tests at all for Geo's dowsing performance. Without making observations of his dowsing, you cannot possibly know the results of his dowsing. You can only read forum posts about it, and pretend this qualifies you to know the facts. But guess what? You only selected a couple of the forum posts to establish what your idea of the facts are. Suppose you were to read more of Geo's posts. Do you think you would find any of them which are not good evidence to help you pretend you know all facts about it? From what you showed, you never made any observation of Geo's dowsing, and have never watched to see the results of what he found or did not find. The best you can do is to look through forum posts until you find something that helps you to trick people into thinking you have some basis to make posts as if you actually know what his dowsing abilitiy is. You can scroll back, and you will see this trick won't work on me a second time. I already saw what you had to offer in trade for some real tests I conducted. This makes me wonder if you really intend to perform any actual tests of Geo's ability to dowse. How can we know you will really be there to perform tests and give prize money if he travels to your test field? For the record, I don't believe the cost of traveling to your test field is only 100 euro. I believe there are additional costs related to loss of work if driving, airfare if flying, lodging, meals, etc. that will total more than the prize you are offering. But maybe what I believe is wrong. If this is the case, then I suggest you spend the 100 euros that you believe is the cost of traveling to go to a location near Geo and set up your test field. If you deduct your 100 euro travel cost, you will still have 900 euros remaining for prize money. Maybe Geo will be interested to try your test for 900 euro prize if the test field is near to him. Best wishes, J_P
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I am not interesting for money!!!!!!!!!! I will try to have free time on September, so WM6 to come here for test. WM6 is welcome to Greece!! I will try to communicate with my friend (teacher) and with another dowser so wm6 to see some things about dowsing. I am not interesting to proof that dowsing is working!!! (i am sure for it). I want to show that all who i say are true. Also WM6 will see all my LRLs Regards
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This is really cool!  There are a lot of people who will like to see videos of you and your friends dowsing when WM6 is there to watch the demonstration. We will be waiting to see what happens. Be sure your friends make many videos so we can see how the dowsing works. It will be also good to see the videos that show all of your LRLs too. Best wishes, J_P
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I am not retired yet and september is otherwise out of my annual leave, but it is not excluded to obtain small additional holyday. Dowsing or not, for me it would be very interesting to meet esteemed TH colleague and excellent MD designer Geo and some of his friends. Regarding dowsing test, Greece is not my terrain and I cannot prepare adequate field test condition to be scientifically valid. I may be present at such field test, no problem, but just as valid test can not be considered (I do not believe in tests, in which the same person hides and finds the target). Of course I am very interested in dowsing test: like the implementation in sort of "Randy" test, and I can make all arrangements needed for such test (say 8 visually equal boxes one of those with gold target): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOsCnX-TKIY I hope your teacher are willing to undergone such test (video inclusive). I would wonder, if I could on the way to Greece to join our common dear friend ivconic.
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You forgot about the hartmann rays, the curie net and water veins.    It is very doubtful that dowsers can switch mentally from detection of water to special rays, to metal and even to lost persons. What they are doing if it really works is called ASW or paranormal sensitive recognition. btw. most of the dowsers won't offer their services in finding metal objects but for telling you that your bed is on the wrong position because (for shure, for those who believe in this stuff...) it is directly above a water vein or an evil and sick making hartmann location! This is very practical because nobody will or can prove it!   I don't believe them - it's almost the same as Feng Shui, but this at least has some philosophical aspect. The only real danger is if your bed or working place is very close to stong power cables because of the strong electromagnetic pulses, but even this depends on the person - there also exists alot of "radiation junkies", hanging day and night before the monitor or tv and really feeling great and energized!  btw. the PD is no dowsing device at all so we should focus back on the pure technical aspects. > Morgan wrote Quote:
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Later Alonso developed another PD which is inside the current new DCH85 with some enhancements I think. This unit only gets silver and gold. I will be testing one in a few days. Most likely I will take it to that site in the video. Actually the PDs including the DCH have a lower range than the FGs. The FGs have a different antenna concept and higher amplification. This concept was developed and invented by Damasio upon Alonso's own devices. They met in 1959 and had been working eversince until Damasio's deceasing last year. Alonso now is taking care of the LRL department along with Mineoro's top engineers. The working frequencies among the devices slightly differ, but the claim that the Mineoros do not work well in Europe is erroneous and misleading. Just because some of the users here still have not found or dug a target identified by the device does not mean whatsoever that the detector is faulty or do not work well over there. It might mean a lot of things such as: there is no treasure where previously thought, target is too small to be precisely detected, which leads to bad ionic conditions at the location due improper time of day, weather, humidity, improper calibration, etc. and etc. and etc. All and all it deserves further investigation. Again bear in mind that Mineoro's site features recoveries from a lot of people from different countries and regions. Just luck? I don't think so. Tomorrow, if one of the users here happen to find a target with a Mineoro, will it mean that all of a sudden the machine started to work in Europe? See what I mean?
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For sure you will !!
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08-25-2010, 12:31 PM
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such claim (in fact excuse why mineoro craps is not working) lead source from mineoro staf itself not from user. So you dispute mineoro or yourself (as usual). Read user reports here on Geotech.
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My house is very near Archeology area with many-many olds buried silver-gold coins. Do you want.. know if mineoro work or not? No problems Everyday for one months morning, afternoon, night i go for tests with mineoro (distance this archeology area only 200meters for my house). If work .. after one month we can know. This is a big test. Wait news.
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