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Old 02-08-2016, 04:54 PM
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One more test,this lrl work perfekt
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Old 02-09-2016, 02:42 AM
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taxma1981 PROVE your PLL4046 LRL is working ??

Go to the test field and dig up some golden coins ??

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Old 02-09-2016, 03:32 AM
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OK folks let's open the cards !!




Dear signore FrancoItaly Phantom LRL and PLL4046 LRL are working but ...... one no !!

It is extremely difficult - near critic to adjust properly work and tune it to catch gold and silver frequencies !!

In my oppinion problem is in extremely sharp slope of capacitance to voltage convertor - couple of hundred femtofarads for full scale output voltage 6V DC..

This "Scalar phenomenon" boost the output voltage - it means we need to tune positive feedback between "Golden signal" and signore Franco LRL's,

How to boost maximum sensitivity ??

When we touch tha antenna with bare hand(s) voltage must drop immediately to 0V (zero volts). It means that capacitive coupling between primary oscillating circuit - antenna with coil L1 and capacitor 22 pf in parallel to coil with internal oscillaor (8MHz or 3MHzPLL) must be couple of hundred femtofarads. Also peak to peak sinusoidal voltage of internal oscillator must not be to high - not higher than 1Vpp (1Volt peak positive to 1Volt peak negative sinus).

Scalar phenomenon (read Golden signal) increase capacitive coupling between antenna-L1C1 and several serial capacitors 1pf connectd to internal LRL oscillator (8MHz or 3MHzPLL) up to tenth picofarads which make shunt (in parallel) over several serial 1pf capacitors so the great ammount of RMS RF power comes to base of second transistor T2 and after additional amplification, rectification and filtering we got a pure 6V DC voltage at output. The key for detecting phenomenon is influence of Scalar signal to several capacitors. On some way their capacitance rise to ten or maybe hundred times higher value than inicial but only while Scalar signal make longitudinal transient through.

I dont think transistor T2 is key to reveal scalar phenomenon but spatial relationship between antenna-primary coil L1C1-several coupling capacitors and internal oscillator. It is like Scalar signal make tunneling of main oscillator signal and in same time boost him to high amplitude.

I think it is a crucial thing makeing PCB exactly like signore Franco did and start fighting with "phantom" capacitive feedback.

Also check your LRL - it must be insensitive to ground (not rise and not drop output voltage).

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Old 02-09-2016, 10:17 AM
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Hi enjoykin4,
Only one of my 10 lrls worked bad (quartz lrl) and I don't understand the cause, the pcb was the same and also the components. Probably parasitic couplings were the cause, we must not forget that the my first lrl was a rf sniffer that went to autoscillate. We must also remember that there is a base/emitter capacitance (TR2 and all BC... transistors) of about 10pF that is in parallel with 22pF capacitor, if we take away 22Pf capacitor the lrl works well anyway. You're right "peak to peak sinusoidal voltage of internal oscillator must not be to high - not higher than 1Vpp (1Volt peak positive to 1Volt peak negative sinus)." this is why quartz LRL is easier to develop, indeed the oscillator output is few volts peak to peak.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:03 PM
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Thank you signore Franco !!

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Old 02-09-2016, 07:38 PM
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FrancoItaly Hello !!

Do you have spare time for additional experiments in your laboratory with your LRLs.
Want to help to try catch "Scalar phenomenon".

Knowing that scalar longitudinal wave running through copper conductor changing polarity at exact same distance (for example at every 40 cm) - already checked with compass running HV scalar phenomenon (induced type) , you can try to build kind of scalar detector in form of Rogowski current sensor using toroidal type windings and make realtime recording using your frontend digital sempling oscillograph (Le Croy type I guess ??) as a real time recorder. It is very useful to make in same time wide band spectra recording in near field using independent spectral analyser and stylus antenna at input.

Something similar did Esteban in 2010 and much earlier in 1970th Professor Gennadiy Vasilevitch Nikolaev in his Tomsk Laboratory.



You shoud to know that when toroidal core with radial winding excited at proper way doesnt catch transversal (vector type) EM waves - because they all are closed (concentrated) in interior structure of toroid while in same time longitudinal scalar wave (both polarity [plus,minus] has maximum amplitude in axial axis of toroid coil. These all means you need additional pair of windings (perpendicular to radial [vector windings]) to catch scalar longitudinal wave while running through stylus antenna.

It semms to me you are only person and only HUMAN here who want to cooperate and share your great knowledge and experience in contrary to some persons who give nothing but only catch informations for own "slavery glory" and polite and nice words from their bosses in secret services and all other "spy agencies".

Yes my dear frioend Franco it is VERY HARD to be a HUMAN like YOU and very easy to be @slave specialists for LRLs@ like many on this forum.

Rogowski Coil
http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/148752

Rogowski Coil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogowski_coil

Rogowski Coil Construction
http://electrical-engineering-portal...l-construction

Rogowski and Current Measurement
http://www.pemuk.com

Rogowski Coil sensor
http://www.powertekuk.com/cwtmini.htm

key words:
http://www.nigma.ru/?s=rogowski+coil...all&srt=0&sf=1


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Old 02-09-2016, 07:50 PM
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Signore Franco maybe I am wrong ??

Maybe is not a good idea to share my knowledge and experience in Physics but put rose googles at my eyes and look on this shiny, perfectly, nice ROSE WORLD - and this PARASITIC CIVILIZATION (of SATANIC JEWISH TYPE) in all rose colours - like many do ??


what a shiny happy people ! ........


PS: This is a question i still have not answered yourself.....
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:12 AM
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Hi enjoykin4,
Unfortunately I'm away from my laboratory, I have to watch my wife here and I have no electronic instrument, only a tester. I own a digital and an analog oscilloscope and many electronic components but unfortunately they are in Italy. I think that's always a good idea to share knowledge and experience, it's the only way to progress. I thought a lot before posting my LRL on the forum, but then I felt it was the best and I would have got benefits too. I wanted to confirm the proper functioning and maybe someone might improve it. I have helped many people privately with email and one confirmed to me a very good find, and this made me very happy. This was the only way to keep alive the forum. First it was a long series of disputes between believed in the phenomenon and others who ironically also denied the existence of the phenomenon. I now believe that there are no doubts about the existence of the phenomenon and the ability to reveal it. I really appreciate your suggestions but at the moment I can not deepen them. I am interested in the use of infrared to increase the performance of the LRL, to obtain discrimination and for the operation even with fresh buried gold.
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Old 02-10-2016, 05:59 PM
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Thank you Signore Franco !!

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Hi enjoykin4,
Unfortunately I'm away from my laboratory, I have to watch my wife here and I have no electronic instrument, only a tester. I own a digital and an analog oscilloscope and many electronic components but unfortunately they are in Italy. I think that's always a good idea to share knowledge and experience, it's the only way to progress. I thought a lot before posting my LRL on the forum, but then I felt it was the best and I would have got benefits too. I wanted to confirm the proper functioning and maybe someone might improve it. I have helped many people privately with email and one confirmed to me a very good find, and this made me very happy. This was the only way to keep alive the forum. First it was a long series of disputes between believed in the phenomenon and others who ironically also denied the existence of the phenomenon. I now believe that there are no doubts about the existence of the phenomenon and the ability to reveal it. I really appreciate your suggestions but at the moment I can not deepen them. I am interested in the use of infrared to increase the performance of the LRL, to obtain discrimination and for the operation even with fresh buried gold.
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How do you do - and our wife to ?

To obtain discrimination with our LRL's make experiments with variabile pulse trains. As you well know like 50 years experienced electronic constructor - simple single pulse have infinite series of sinus (or cosinus) frequencies - and theoreticaly has an infinite power.

Remember the Great Nikolai Tesla work. He has used very high amplitde more than 12 000 000 Volts and extremelly sharp nano (or pico) impulses to excite etherical froces in his Magnificient Collorado-Springs transmitter. And he got the results.

I think that golden signals are part of this etherical force which influent classical EM-field so the reulsts can be obtained with much lower amplitudes. Remember Mineoro golden-cells cavities - in fact cylindrical capacitors because Maxwell displacement currents in non-polarised capacitors are nothing less or more to tha longitudinal scalar waves which are not electromagnetic in nature. Capacitor is a kind of conversion tube between those two natural filelds.

If you are interested in modulation signal envelopes - feel free to contact me at email
enjokin4@yandex.ru

ps: I think it is no sense to public here many thinks i know because many people here has not pure and clean intention.

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Old 03-02-2016, 09:58 AM
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Hi enjoykin4,
At the moment the conditions of my wife are stationary and require my continued presence so I can only dedicate myself to the theory of LRLs, but as I said I am very interested to infrared rays, by comparing the signal provided by my LRL and the one provided by a infrared system it could be possible a sort of discrimination. I am preparing a similar system to the pulse induction, where there is a pulse transmitted by an infrared LED and a receiving part, another infrared LED, a kind of infrared radars. Soon I'll post the schematic so someone can experience it. As for the impulse of which you speak I have some experience with the construction of electronic musical instruments, electronic organs in particular, according to the Fourier analysis the square wave contains only odd harmonics of decreasing amplitude and for obtaining a sawtooth wave is necessary to add to square wave his higher octaves with decreasing amplitude. Thus only with square waves (easily available with frequency dividers) was possible to have a sound with odd and even harmonics. As a boy I also repaired the radios and I used a square wave generator (about 1000Hz), a signal tracer useful to inject the signal even in the high frequency stages as the harmonics easily arrived in the Mhz range.

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Hi enjoykin4,
At the moment the conditions of my wife are stationary and require my continued presence so I can only dedicate myself to the theory of LRLs, but as I said I am very interested to infrared rays, by comparing the signal provided by my LRL and the one provided by a infrared system it could be possible a sort of discrimination. I am preparing a similar system to the pulse induction, where there is a pulse transmitted by an infrared LED and a receiving part, another infrared LED, a kind of infrared radars. Soon I'll post the schematic so someone can experience it. As for the impulse of which you speak I have some experience with the construction of electronic musical instruments, electronic organs in particular, according to the Fourier analysis the square wave contains only odd harmonics of decreasing amplitude and for obtaining a sawtooth wave is necessary to add to square wave his higher octaves with decreasing amplitude. Thus only with square waves (easily available with frequency dividers) was possible to have a sound with odd and even harmonics. As a boy I also repaired the radios and I used a square wave generator (about 1000Hz), a signal tracer useful to inject the signal even in the high frequency stages as the harmonics easily arrived in the Mhz range.

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Dear Franco I have not experience in the construction of electronic musical instruments, electronic organs and other electoinic instruments but i have experience in physic's experiments.

If you make some experiments with nano-pulses in HV domain you will see that envelope of nano-pulses have almost perfect sawtooth wave shape - so it have infinite superpositions of both odd and even harmonics over wide frequenc range. If you succedd to make an Unipolar nano-impulse you will get pure potential impulse with zero current running. This kind of impulses are basic of scalar longitudinal waves. So am pretty sure that gold treasure radiate above described zero current - high potential impulses (remember burnt front-end LRL electronics of Alonso Geo and many others LRL hunters). And yes they (nano-impulse) influent E-field of your telescopic antenna and parallel tank-circuit changing amplitude and phase of your LRL. And they deca with 1/r law.

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Old 03-05-2016, 06:30 PM
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This kind of impulses are basic of scalar longitudinal waves. So am pretty sure that gold treasure radiate above described zero current - high potential impulses (remember burnt front-end LRL electronics of Alonso Geo and many others LRL hunters).
There is a much higher probability that the LRL front-ends you refer to were damaged by ESD, and not some mysterious force emanating from buried treasure.
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There is a much higher probability that the LRL front-ends you refer to were damaged by ESD, and not some mysterious force emanating from buried treasure.
Ok folks.

Long time ago in 1903 year Schwarzschild introduced "Electrokinetic potential L" which is L= (φ-v·A), so folks it is over 100 years more since the scalar product v·A was recognized as a potential. It is a pure potential.

Electrokinetic potential (L) is really a potential difference which when multiplied by the charge density forms a relavistic invariant. The E-field seems to me is much more sensible to change of electrokinetic potential if the electrokinetic potential is capable of doing work in a fixed case where were the sum (φ+v·A), not the difference.

An charge q moving at velocity v through an A (vector potential) field can be considered to have a kinetic potential v·A, or a kinetically derived potential energy q(v·A).
Maximum energy is when v is parallel to A, when the charge travels along the A field, and has a value qAv . This is in exact agreement with the energy available from the motion derived E-field and with the energy extracted from the source of the A field.

ps: Some people here need much more experimenting and as much as possible empty talking and conclusions based on personal final phantasies !!
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Schwarzschild only re-invented (in 1903) what was introduced by Clausius as electrodynamic potential in 1857.

And all was pure futile speculations that was never transformed in any sort of working device (on contrast with Maxwell mathematical "speculations").

This is proved also by "some people here" who desperately begging on the forum for any schematic and at the same time spread here kilometers barren and wild "phantasies" which have never been tested in practice experiments by themselves.
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Schwarzschild only re-invented (in 1903) what was introduced by Clausius as electrodynamic potential in 1857.

And all was pure futile speculations that was never transformed in any sort of working device (on contrast with Maxwell mathematical "speculations").

This is proved also by "some people here" who desperately begging on the forum for any schematic and at the same time spread here kilometers barren and wild "phantasies" which have never been tested in practice experiments by themselves.

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Seems to me some Slovenian members here need comeback to primary school
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ps: Nobody @begging@ for nothing !! Presenting an working schematic with purpose of further design improvements acording to newest principles of scalar physics is the main goal here - not like in some Slovenian country where some people (like WMGURU6) have had sucked cosmic widsdom from little finger and sell own speculations for "SHNOBEL PRIZE". Typical Slovenian WMGURU6 did just in that way.

Folks tell me for only one Slovenian world class inventor or world class scientsist ??
THE FACT .... There is NO ONE - except mabe WMGURU6 with his CLONES of Tesla's antennas !!


ps: @never been tested in practice......@

OPEN YOUR MIND IF YOU CAN WMGURU6 - THIS IS RUSSIAN SCALAR TECHNOLOGY I WAS TALKING ABOUT !!
I GUESS SLOVENIAN WMGURU6 NEVER HAS SEEN SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE SLOVENIAN WILDERNESS .....



ASTA LA VISTA WMGURU6.


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Signore Franco if you want your wife live further - obtain device i have told you. It is not a fake like all Slovenian CLONE Devices.

Best regards you and your wife signore Franco !!
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WATCHING YOU NEW SCHNOBEL->WMGURU6 !!


I guess Slovenian WM6GURU does not know what his favorite mountain "ТРИГЛАВ" menas.
Little help: СВАРОГ-ПЕРУН-ВЕЛЕС.... Мир ПРАВИ


Of course he doesnot know because it is a pure Russian terminology. Not so long Slovenia and whole Europe had been small part of GRANDE TARHTARIA ..... destroyed in Kosheys's nuke attacks before somthing more than 200 years.

******************** More anti-Jewish remarks removed *********************

Everthing can be found in Taniya, Torah, Cabbal..

The Darkness shell cover the earth and
fog darkness the nations .....

But happily for us night of Svarog have been over 1996 after 1008 years of Koscheys experiments.....

Wanna know more or would put your heads in the sand ??

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I GUESS SLOVENIAN WMGURU6 NEVER HAS SEEN SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE SLOVENIAN WILDERNESS .....


On contrary, all this is cheap trick for naive soul's only.

If you uncover winter greenhouse with strawberries and then let snow to fall to them, you get exactly the same fraudulent picture. Wake up.

The same fraud as all Russian commercial available LRL's, you promote here on forum.

But Tesla inventions are worth to further research, despite not with dismantling those crappy LRL's.


PS: This is real sparrow comment, not fake one like winter strawberries:



Sorry Franco, to help signore enjoykin4 to pollute your extra tread - Strawberries are my weak point.
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Hi Carl
Now You have a different opinion on Lrls? It is now 10 years that I participate in this forum and I was skeptical myself, but later I changed my mind, especially after building several all functioning. My conviction was strengthened by the fact that other forum members have achieved the same performance, particularly thank Geo which I really appreciate his expertise in this field. I appeal to all those who have failed to make working my LRL to insist, to many I have given help privately, but I wish that the requests for help were on the forum so as to be useful to all although I know that in some countries the use of metal detectors is prohibited and therefore a person he wants to remain anonymous. As last thing I want on the forum could speak only on lrls and that the criticism is constructive and not insults.
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Dear Franco

It is very clear (from description how your LRL works, given by our experienced friend Geo, too), that your design is able to work as geomagnetic line sensor only. In other words: some sort of primitive magnetometer. Not first such design seen on this forum.

Such devices can detect known buried targets only. If such devices are able to detect somewhere something not known/buried by hunter before, then this is pure coincidence, cause useful targets are buried everywhere. Proven by metal detectors.

But retain your hope. Live with hopes is most important in our life.

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Dear Franco

It is very clear (from description how your LRL works, given by our experienced friend Geo, too), that your design is able to work as geomagnetic line sensor only. In other words: some sort of primitive magnetometer. Not first such design seen on this forum.

Such devices can detect known buried targets only. If such devices are able to detect somewhere something not known/buried by hunter before, then this is pure coincidence, cause useful targets are buried everywhere. Proven by metal detectors.

But retain your hope. Live with hopes is most important in our life.

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Hi WM6,
you do not know what you're talking about, we are not talking of dowsing or other "psychic" devices but totally electronic devices and only an expert in telekinesis succeed to be able to make it sound remotely. "Live with hopes is most important in our life", you are right, but we also say there are none so deaf as those who do not want to hear. In this forum you spend the time to criticize something you do not know and in this you are a perfect scientist, what can not be explained by current laws of physics do not exist and anyone who says it is a dreamer.
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PERFECT ABSURD OF
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You are right, cause our strawberries are not results of extraordinary Trofim Denisovich Lysenko genetic science like yours.
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you do not know what you're talking about, we are not talking of dowsing or other "psychic" devices but totally electronic devices and only an expert in telekinesis succeed to be able to make it sound remotely. "Live with hopes is most important in our life", you are right, but we also say there are none so deaf as those who do not want to hear. In this forum you spend the time to criticize something you do not know and in this you are a perfect scientist, what can not be explained by current laws of physics do not exist and anyone who says it is a dreamer.
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PERFECT RIGHT SIGNORE FRANCO about Slovenian mountain-dreamer !!

Read my post for you:
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...841#post152841


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Eh, mio caro signore tavarisc Winter Strawberjich Lysenko, what would be your next great LRL invention?
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