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Old 08-31-2021, 10:34 AM
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First of all, I gave you facts on the ground (not theories) for already-existing best made cameras.. so it's up to you if you want to take it or not.

I said (vacuumed tube) filled with multiple kinds of gas. And yes the pulse value is 2450Mhz. These are very general facts, yet the detailed manufacturing know-how remains a trade-secret of the inventor, but the facts above are true100%. Even the Sony camera manufacurers don't know it.. The guys that showed videos for the camera in this forum, all of them, without exception, possess false cameras that show objects that are analysed according to whatever his brain imagine seeing!! It is illusionary!! But as for the true genuine camera, everyone will see the same object -No illusion or double opinion- and can even read the letters or drawings carved or printed on it!! This is a fact.
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I always write with a logical conclusion.
You say, "The best versions of them use vacuum cleaner tubes that contain a lot of gas."
Even if it is right.
How could those who made it make a vacuum cleaner tube and contain gas?
Today we talk about it, it is relatively easy, a few years ago it was difficult, so logic says that this method is not used but a simple tube as a darkroom.
You say for frequency> 2450MHz
Let's talk about the year 2015.
There were few manufacturers that offered portable generators at these frequencies.
Even today, every amateur needs a serious lab to build a generator at GHZ frequencies.
Of course today things are easy, but the first cameras started before the year 2010.
So logic says that if high frequency is used it is <1GHZ that any serious electronic engineer can create and experiment with it, always before the year 2010
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:14 AM
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Dear elhit
I do not want to offend you. If you think so I apologize.
I just follow logic.
I saw such a real camera many years ago.
I did not open it, I was just experimenting, that was the deal.
The one who made it was an amateur.
Of course it was not possible to build a vacuum tube or generator at very high frequencies.
I am sure of this from my experience!
And yet it made a perfect depiction of buried objects buried by me at a shallow depth.
And I ask you.
Does not require special specifications, but is a simple construction with small extra tips?
As I have written I have understood "what the camera sees".
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:57 AM
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No offence no need to apologise..
The info I provide is directly from the Professional Inventor who manufactured it.. Dozens of amateurs tried to copy.. they failed.. The info above is genuine.
By the way the camera will not see the first meter underground.. it will see from two meters up till 35 meters underground, the clarity depends on the nature of ground itself..
It will not penetrate carpets or ceramic. Yet it can pentrate rocky land with no problem.

Too too many persons claimed in this forum they made the camera exactly as the genuine camera, but the results are illusionary.. soin my opinion they failed!!
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Dear elhitI do not want to offend you. If you think so I apologize.
I just follow logic.
I saw such a real camera many years ago.
I did not open it, I was just experimenting, that was the deal.
The one who made it was an amateur.
Of course it was not possible to build a vacuum tube or generator at very high frequencies.
I am sure of this from my experience!
And yet it made a perfect depiction of buried objects buried by me at a shallow depth.
And I ask you.
Does not require special specifications, but is a simple construction with small extra tips?
As I have written I have understood "what the camera sees".
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Old 08-31-2021, 12:00 PM
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Hi dear elhit

(vacuumed tube) filled with multiple kinds of gas. And yes the pulse value is 2450Mhz. These are very general facts,


Once while I am studying airport passenger inspection camera which able to see under clothes I saw in the circuit a resonance section generates frequency from 12 GHz to 180 GHz ... It was locked in metal can about 4x4x1 cm I was not allowed to open it
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Old 08-31-2021, 01:35 PM
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There are several versions of this camera, as we mentioned in more detail, including the one that uses the vacuum tube, which is a sensor and image multiplier, an alternative to ccd / coms --------- and one of them uses a gas tube subject to an electric field when entering the penetrating beam that collides with gas particles ( shine) and be an image. Including what uses LED light for detection. Therefore, they focused on the LED version, which is the easiest and serves the same purpose if industrial catalysts are used with it, and it may be the best version that can reach the maximum limits of this technology. So my talk will be about the LED version only.
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Old 08-31-2021, 02:23 PM
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We apologize to friends, we are trying to zoom in without harming the manufacturers of this camera. So we grab the stick in half, not necessarily everything that is written is 100% correct. It is only approximate and not final --------------------------- According to our knowledge of the catalyst, there are three types of it, some of which are superficial, and some of which are internal, which are injected into the ground. And what is polarized (for LED light feeding). With my best wishes to you.
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Old 08-31-2021, 04:08 PM
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In the end, I extend my heartfelt thanks to my friends Jafal and Al-Hayt29. For the useful information they provided, God made it in the balance of your good deeds -------------- And in the end, I present to my friend Robin and the rest of the friends this gift, which is a partial explanation of the version that uses the radio signal injection to the ground using focused white light by an optical fiber or a collecting lens. And the following picture suffices the explanation -------------- I wish you good luck


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Old 08-31-2021, 11:11 PM
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the version that uses the radio signal injection to the ground


Does location matter of Stimulator (2.45Ghz) ?
Where should the stimulator stand ?
in Pocket of user ,
or in front side of two IR Tx leds or Lens ?

Does Stimulator Need fine tuning if is in front of Camera and Lens ?
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:19 PM
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And what is polarized (for LED light feeding). .
I know that is two IR LEDs , is it wrong ?
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:17 AM
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First, enlarge the image -------- the optical fibers are independent outside ...... and the infrared LED light inside the koshakah is independent -------- This camera is not mine ******** This is my last post on the subject, thank you
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Old 09-02-2021, 12:11 AM
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First, enlarge the image -------- the optical fibers are independent outside ...... and the infrared LED light inside the koshakah is independent -------- This camera is not mine ******** This is my last post on the subject, thank you
Thanks but , I not ask for image , my interest is where is place of this Stimulator (2.45Ghz) . (in Front of Black tube with IR Leds or in Pocket , is it in critical position ? )
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:19 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwjc...&index=5&t=79s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-83...ist=WL&index=4
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Old 09-02-2021, 01:57 PM
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Jafal Thanks for Video , here I understand that RF waves created or illuminates Way of Camera for view Image , any time this image is with reflection from cool undergound object , and other time is reflection of heat (IR) from also object .

This is theory of big Master Esteban for Light and LRL .
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Old 09-02-2021, 11:50 PM
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The stimulus wave causes things to send waves in the infrared range
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Old 09-03-2021, 01:25 PM
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The stimulus wave causes things to send waves in the infrared range
Ok dear , this is Very interesting Ghz wave after reflectinon from underground Object
converted itself from microwave to IR light .

Here maybe have heating of Metal Object from micro wave ?
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Old 09-18-2021, 10:04 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wDDqoX7WFQ


http://knozy.koom.ma/vb/showthread.p...8363#post18363
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Old 10-07-2021, 05:12 PM
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Old 01-14-2022, 08:50 PM
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First of all, I gave you facts on the ground (not theories) for already-existing best made cameras.. so it's up to you if you want to take it or not.

I said (vacuumed tube) filled with multiple kinds of gas. And yes the pulse value is 2450Mhz. These are very general facts, yet the detailed manufacturing know-how remains a trade-secret of the inventor, but the facts above are true100%. Even the Sony camera manufacurers don't know it.. The guys that showed videos for the camera in this forum, all of them, without exception, possess false cameras that show objects that are analysed according to whatever his brain imagine seeing!! It is illusionary!! But as for the true genuine camera, everyone will see the same object -No illusion or double opinion- and can even read the letters or drawings carved or printed on it!! This is a fact.
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Thank you sir for your valuable information and practical experience, I think the camera needs as I heard three software programs to be effective in the field.Is that true?
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Old 09-07-2022, 04:47 AM
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Thank you for sharing the correct information about this mystery Camera , even if it was hints Big Thanks to Jafal , Omer , Rubin
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:20 PM
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i want to know if you selling your Special Camera , i need it for Some Projects
will to pay top money
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it has been 2 years working on a small project, the digital camera that can see a live view underground way down to 40 meters by just doing some modifications to almost any CCD image sensor or CMOS, cameras.

I noted discussions since year 2012 regarding this weird phenomenon a guy with some sort of black plastic bag in Iran gives you a clear video of what is underground and others are requesting help from the forum many of you did not believe the stories just like I did 2 years ago until I decided to make one my self.

the result will amaze you all.....
the camera can go as far as we tested at 40 meters the image is sharp and clear and so magnified ina a form that you can talk to your self although you can find some inconvenient bugs that can't control, it works great
I'm sending you guys some videos and some other links for others that they made this camera works fine I did not see anywhere in the world making this tech besides turkey Jordan Iran Iraq Lebanon,

from the view of science, it was clear by some universities and researchers that this is so different than 3D devices and other GPR instruments it is simply the use of optical imaginary or virtual view of the focal point while we focus in and leaving behind the real view now somebody will tell me hey> the CCD image sensor can't see the virtual image scientist hardly reached this image sensor in 2018! the answer is the trick of how to make your camera able to capture this image.

now making and modifying such a device requires some skills "not much" in electronics but more knowledge in physics and some principles of radiation patterns that infrared can cause when they cross out when they are in the same phase and wavelength especially when they come out from the same source, splitting the beam then merge it right in front of your camera lens.

a brief and fast explanation that may most of you understand the main concept but in order to do what I did you may need some time if you really want to have this tool next to you when looking for something on the field I'm not saying it should be a stand-alone device it is a must to add on to what you have to make sure that everything is ok as some friends of mine detected buried mines underground using this camera it saved their lives
will talk about the advantages and disadvantages of such a camera

the real view you will see is real and as if you are just filming the target right up the object as it if was in front of you, some times color can be noted also in some sort of metals the size and shape of target magnified so you can see small details even if your target is tens of meters underground no matter what type of soil as long as some metal man-made or any man-made artifact is under the ground the camera will see it, the best and easy find if cavity with metals inside then it is a real goal.. imagine the camera is hung inside the cave in the top of it and is looking downwards and you are watching live! but the camera in fact is with your hand above the ground half an inch only from the dirt.

what is not so good if you don't make you camera excellent fit it will lead you to the unidirectional way that will show you something but, in fact, it is somewhere around you in a radius could reach 30 meters or even more and the camera then will become absolute due to the incorrect directional viewing for example if your camera directed with a tilt to the south and it is easy to show you a cave behind you and you can enjoy viewing the target but you will never know how deep or where exactly if you don't balance your camera will enough by some tools

again the camera easy to make it but in order to have a great deal you need to make it right

get yourself any of the shelf USB digital camera especially those old laptop cameras from Logitech I prefer the CCD image sensor rather than CMOS
disassemble it ake out the UV-IR filter sometimes it can be attached in top of the image sensor or in other types attached behind the lens nearby the sensor
take the lens out and you may find inside 4 or 5 lenses keep only one the convex it may be the second from the front of the lens or the first one keep the little black plastic whole away from the lens about 9mm "this will help not to let much light to enter and help to prevent the Corona effect " please read about corona program 1968 USA"
attach the lens in a black tube just the size bigger than your image sensor in diameter
50 mm long that is about almost 2 inches let the lens exactly 50mm away from the sensor and the only part in between is the little black plastic piece and it will be near the lens about 9mm that is the most focal length of convex lenses in such camera
the system is using only one lens and far away 50mm in order to have an almost microscopic image in your laptop once you are done test the image when you place any book from inside letters you should see the one letter as big as 3 or 4 times your monitor in other words the magnification is almost 200 times or even more you may need some sort of light to test
if your image is sharp and clear fixup your black tube by any none metallic epoxy on board of the camera having much care not to let any drop over your image sensor you may need to fix the lens inside the body that was originally having the lens and other lenses or you may find your way to fix it in front of your black tube
step two
find 2 or more LED 940Nm infrared and get the resistor corresponding to let them both in serial if we get 5v out the USB cable"don't use the LED outlets was originally installed on your board the current is designed for white LEDs and your infrared LEDs needs less power and current" then you may need 0.380 Ohm you can find on the net a calculator to help you hay many ohms the size of your resistor to let 2 LED 5mm infrared
in serial powered by 5vdc, it is important to have them both the same kind and freq in order to produce a pattern to generate radiation "small amount don't worry unharmful"

place the LEDs so close to your lens in almost 30 degrees that will make your spot beam hits almost 9mm to 12mm in front the lens which is the focal distance of it and not to let the LEDs get further more than the lens means nearby the lens and tube but with a degree and will not exceed the length of the tube otherwise the ground will damage them

once you're done making a little test on the book the same letters you tested and see if you get a clear image if ok now get a blue congo sheet cut a small round piece and find a way to attach in front of your lens or find a filter of 940nm and use it but you need to find a ring to separate the lens from the LEDs otherwise you will get some portion of the light reflected into the image sensor you can then use to cover the camera any polarized lens not magnified
but your camera in a plastic tube and get a rubber of front car axel may be large enough about10 or 15 cm this will be set on the ground to help you maneuver and search at the same time to prevent any visible light to get to your sensor

now your camera is ready, place it nearby any known manhole and is a must to find soil and start looking slowly and in a circular motion then every once in a while you press down the camera so you will not be able to see the magnified ground repeat the process in going from the real view image to the unseen virtual image until at sudden you will see the void or cavity or metal

good luck guys let me know if your test goes well

some examples of what this camera can do some links to share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STCIEc9a6Rc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJIfO2ZB64s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRwJk2Yc08A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAnUbu7rCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lh7OB4iF98

now I'm trying to upload some video from my pc and sending you guys the link

all that I'm looking for ..please if you guys have ideas videos post them here so we all learn
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Old 11-07-2022, 01:16 AM
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I've been in the group for about 20 years I think... and I've always heard here that the old treasure hunters in my region used a battery-powered radio in the AM band! did? and all died here!
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Old 11-07-2022, 07:22 PM
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I've been in the group for about 20 years I think... and I've always heard here that the old treasure hunters in my region used a battery-powered radio in the AM band! did? and all died here!
Any idea what AM frequency
They use ?
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Old 11-09-2022, 02:39 AM
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I always wanted to know..but it seems to me that they all died there!, and whoever told me didn't know how to explain!
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Old 11-09-2022, 02:43 AM
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google translator is sometimes the enemy! I don't know if I passed the message I wanted to the members! it translates differently from the explanation
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Old 04-27-2023, 07:30 PM
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